Super mini plants (update)

[Ninjabowler]

IDK why you would want to try urine, I smile every time my dog goes and pisses on the neighbor's tree that he planted on our side of the property line. (Tree is not happy.)

The above info is in response to this.

 

[Ninjabowler]

I had another idea to get the temps down. I dont know what you do for a living nor do i want to know. But if you have access to dry ice for free you might want to try that. You probably cant get your hands on it but if you could it gives off co2 and its pretty darn cold with not much added humidity because theres no water in it. I used to work at moxies up in canada and we had a giant tank of dry ice in the back. We were always stealin the shit to go blow up pop bottles and buckets in back alleys when we were drunk. They give it away at some grocery stores too. You see the sex parts yet?

 

[7Luiji7]

I had another idea to get the temps down. I dont know what you do for a living nor do i want to know. But if you have access to dry ice for free you might want to try that. You probably cant get your hands on it but if you could it gives off co2 and its pretty darn cold with not much added humidity because theres no water in it. I used to work at moxies up in canada and we had a giant tank of dry ice in the back. We were always stealin the shit to go blow up pop bottles and buckets in back alleys when we were drunk. They give it away at some grocery stores too. You see the sex parts yet?

hey dude dry ice is pretty hard to come by, im a chef and still have yet to see it. as it would work tho but also extremely dangerous. i updated some photos. the plants were super close to the lights today (less than an inch) so i just tied down what i could to give some light to the rest of the plant - looking good guys!!! and no , no sex yet

big #1

big #2

small one

the box

ps. i now have 1 cup for humidity ( just water ) and 1 cup with the water sugar yeast im maxed out for space now, wanna see how this night goes + im letting the suckers dry out today and will prob give em some nutes tomorrow bright and early enjoy the pics guys! keep it comin

 

[Ninjabowler]

Shiiiiiit, its not thaaat dangerous. Lol, unless it gets in the wrong hands....mine. I used to be a chef too. Id splash a little water in my fry bitches deep fryer and cringe and then in the middle of the rush toss in a big chunk of dry ice and make like im going to run. Before id get turned around his pimpled little face would be twisted in horror and hed be running as fast as his oily shoes could carry him twards the prep area, of course it would just skitter around not do anything, then id give him a degrating nickname like little bitch and the whole line of twelve would call him little bitch for a week or so. Ahh the good old days, playing with the servers tits in the walk in claiming that it was a good comparison for the perfectly aged steak and if she wanted me to cook her a perfectly aged steak then id need to check those steaks in a side by side test. At least youll have a good source of free butter to make weed butter later....and chocolate to make the brownies.

 

[7Luiji7]

Shiiiiiit, its not thaaat dangerous. Lol, unless it gets in the wrong hands....mine. I used to be a chef too. Id splash a little water in my fry bitches deep fryer and cringe and then in the middle of the rush toss in a big chunk of dry ice and make like im going to run. Before id get turned around his pimpled little face would be twisted in horror and hed be running as fast as his oily shoes could carry him twards the prep area, of course it would just skitter around not do anything, then id give him a degrating nickname like little bitch and the whole line of twelve would call him little bitch for a week or so. Ahh the good old days, playing with the servers tits in the walk in claiming that it was a good comparison for the perfectly aged steak and if she wanted me to cook her a perfectly aged steak then id need to check those steaks in a side by side test. At least youll have a good source of free butter to make weed butter later....and chocolate to make the brownies.

lmfao kitchen life <3 gotta love it... sucks that you guys have a kitchen bitch tho - are brigade is pretty sweet

 

[Ninjabowler]

I had a line of twelve working at the same time. I was the call man, there was always new faces in there and theyd always start on fry/dessert. Id either run em off or make em into stone cold pillars of culinary confidence. The fry bitch i was the hardest on....ever, ended up taking over my job eventually. I was great to my line, those guys woulda taken a bullet for me, i always had a bottle of RnR stashed somewhere in the kitchen, some of em still have the nicknames i gave em. One fry bitch kept forgetting to put onions on the calamari so i nick named him onion and thats still his name seven years later lol what station you work? Gard manger, chef de cuisine, saucier, sous?

 

[imchucky666]

hey dude dry ice is pretty hard to come by, im a chef and still have yet to see it. as it would work tho but also extremely dangerous. i updated some photos. the plants were super close to the lights today (less than an inch) so i just tied down what i could to give some light to the rest of the plant - looking good guys!!! and no , no sex yet

big #1

big #2

small one

the box

ps. i now have 1 cup for humidity ( just water ) and 1 cup with the water sugar yeast im maxed out for space now, wanna see how this night goes + im letting the suckers dry out today and will prob give em some nutes tomorrow bright and early enjoy the pics guys! keep it comin

They don't have grocery stores in Canada either? LOL
Down here in the states, I remember as far back as 20 years ago, we used to just go to the grocery store, and buy it at Halloween and put a little chunk in a pot with water to make a 'steaming cauldron'.

 

[imchucky666]

Because its a free source of available nitrogen thats found in many reputable fertilizers under different names. Your comment is kinda like saying why would you use poop from a bat? Or why would you use decayed fish guts? Those things are"gross" too but they solve the problem the plant needs to thrive. Do you belive aquaponics works? Ok well you have 4030 posts since aug 12 so i figure you know that aquaponics is just fish poopin and peein in the water and plants enjoying free nitrogen as a byproduct. You understand what organics are right? Organic nutrients are any nutrient that must be acted upon and processed by a biological life process before being available , in such form, that the plant can recognize and assimalate. Thats what you said right? Its not like the plant is going to be soaked with piss, luigi has only used bloom nutes with very small levels of N. doesnt want to spend a fortune and is running out of time for the plant to utilize N while growing taller or bigger in his lst environment. 100% urine is bad, diluted urine is good. Mother earth news, scientific america, and countless tree huggers all cant be wrong. Ive never tried it. Im also on my first grow, its going very well with no pee added. I dont claim to be an expert on anything except sleeping in. I just read a bunch of data on cheap available sources of nitrogen and urine popped up all over the place. I doubt luigi will pee in his nute solution, if someone told me to before i read what i did in the lastcouple days id have laughed at them. It has a little to much salts from what they say but i intend to try it out. People told me LED lights dont work worth shit but look at my basil plant under it. Thats not the only plant that lights veged with great sucess. Im just tryin to help luigi out. Some haters were talkin shit about his plants and i dont think that thats what riu is all about so i stuck up for him and want his plants to do well. Oh ya, i dont think this is the exact fertilizer your useing but its miricle grow none the less so id assume the ingredients are pretty cross utilized....Miracle-Gro Ingredients

The All-Purpose Plant Food has a 15-30-15 ratio, meaning that there is 15% Nitrogen, 30% Phosphate, and 15% Potash.

The primary ingredients in the Miracle-Gro powder are as follows:

&#8226; 5.8% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
&#8226; 9.2% Urea Nitrogen
&#8226; 30% Available Phosphate
&#8226; 15% Soluble Potash
&#8226; 0.02% Boron
&#8226; 0.07% Copper
&#8226; 0.15% Iron
&#8226; 0.05% Manganese
&#8226; 0.005% Molybdenum
&#8226; 0.06% Zinc

Derived from: Ureaform, Ammonium Phosphate, Urea Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Boric Acid, Copper Sulfate, Iron EDTA, Manganese EDTA, Sodium Molybdate, and Zinc Sulfate.



I believe that you are useing urine on your plants right now unknowingly at around 9.2%.


Urea

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Urea
Other names[hide] Carbamide, carbonyl diamide, carbonyldiamine, diaminomethanal, diaminomethanone
Identifiers
CAS number	57-13-6[SUP] [/SUP]
PubChem	1176
ChemSpider	1143[SUP] [/SUP]
UNII	8W8T17847W[SUP] [/SUP]
DrugBank	DB03904
KEGG	D00023[SUP] [/SUP]
ChEBI	CHEBI:16199[SUP] [/SUP]
ChEMBL	CHEMBL985[SUP] [/SUP]
RTECS number	YR6250000
ATC code	B05BC02,D02AE01
Jmol-3D images	Image 1
SMILES​ [show]​
InChI​ [show]​
Properties
Molecular formula	CH[SUB]4[/SUB]N[SUB]2[/SUB]O
Molar mass	60.06 g mol[SUP]−1[/SUP]
Appearance	White solid
Density	1.32 g/cm[SUP]3[/SUP]
Melting point	133–135 °C
Solubility in water	107.9 g/100 ml (20 °C) 167 g/100ml (40 °C) 251 g/100 ml (60 °C) 400 g/100 ml (80 °C)
Solubility	50g/L ethanol, 500g/L glycerol [SUP][1][/SUP]
Basicity (pK[SUB]b[/SUB])	pK[SUB]BH[SUP]+[/SUP][/SUB] = 0.18[SUP][2][/SUP]
Structure
Dipole moment	4.56 D
Hazards
MSDS	JT Baker
EU Index	Not listed
Flash point	Non-flammable
LD[SUB]50[/SUB]	8500 mg/kg (oral, rat)
Related compounds
Related ureas	Thiourea Hydroxycarbamide
Related compounds	Carbamide peroxide Urea phosphate
(verify) (what is: / ?) Except where noted otherwise, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C, 100 kPa)
Infobox references

Urea or carbamide is an organic compound with the chemical formula CO(NH[SUB]2[/SUB])[SUB]2[/SUB]. The molecule has two &#8212;NH[SUB]2[/SUB] groups joined by a carbonyl (C=O) functional group.
Urea serves an important role in the metabolism of nitrogen-containing compounds by animals and is the main nitrogen-containing substance in the urine of mammals. It is a colorless, odorless solid, although the ammonia that it gives off in the presence of water, including water vapor in the air, has a strong odor. It is highly soluble in water and practically non-toxic (LD[SUB]50[/SUB] is 15 g/kg for rat). Dissolved in water, it is neither acidic noralkaline. The body uses it in many processes, the most notable one being nitrogen excretion. Urea is widely used in fertilizers as a convenient source of nitrogen. Urea is also an important raw material for the chemical industry. The synthesis of this organic compound by Friedrich Wöhler in 1828 from an inorganic precursor was an important milestone in the development of organic chemistry, as it showed for the first time that a molecule found in living organisms could be synthesized in the lab without biological starting materials (thus contradicting a theory widely prevalent at one time, called vitalism).


I really hope that this info doesnt change the direction of this thread. Its about luigis plants not pee and im not trying to insult you mr. Chucky, im just trying to answeryour question the best way i can. I dont intend to get into a big argument about this. Im no expert, im a noob and this int my thread. Heck it might kill the fn plants and luigi would want to fly to my house and pee on my head, but i doubt it.

No, I didn't take offense, but thanks.
I am not that thin skinned, or easily offended.
My philosophy is we are here to learn and share what knowledge we DO have with others, not argue.
However, what I was getting at, is I am a skeptic, knowing what my dog's urine does to the neighbor's tree.
You know, kinda like "Pics or it didn't happen" LOL
It's all good man.
AND, just for the record, I have done absolutely zero hydro.

 

[7Luiji7]

I had a line of twelve working at the same time. I was the call man, there was always new faces in there and theyd always start on fry/dessert. Id either run em off or make em into stone cold pillars of culinary confidence. The fry bitch i was the hardest on....ever, ended up taking over my job eventually. I was great to my line, those guys woulda taken a bullet for me, i always had a bottle of RnR stashed somewhere in the kitchen, some of em still have the nicknames i gave em. One fry bitch kept forgetting to put onions on the calamari so i nick named him onion and thats still his name seven years later lol what station you work? Gard manger, chef de cuisine, saucier, sous?

dude we have a line of 20 , our restaurant seats over 500 people right downtown, im the grill chef - i started fryer/salads, ive done pizza and all the other shit. i want my own small cafe one day that does all fresh everything in house.

 

[7Luiji7]

They don't have grocery stores in Canada either? LOL
Down here in the states, I remember as far back as 20 years ago, we used to just go to the grocery store, and buy it at Halloween and put a little chunk in a pot with water to make a 'steaming cauldron'.

man, they do not sell dry ice in grocery stores thats very illegal in canada.

 

[Ninjabowler]

No, I didn't take offense, but thanks.
I am not that thin skinned, or easily offended.
My philosophy is we are here to learn and share what knowledge we DO have with others, not argue.
However, what I was getting at, is I am a skeptic, knowing what my dog's urine does to the neighbor's tree.
You know, kinda like "Pics or it didn't happen" LOL
It's all good man.
AND, just for the record, I have done absolutely zero hydro.

From what google told me is that the grass gets burned from urine because the nitrogen content is so high that you get nute burn. You should give hydro a try. All you need is a five gallon bucket, cheap air pump, air stone, air line and the right nutes. Dwc is pretty easy. My dirt lovin friend just bought a big dwc system after seeing my first grow. My stalk is four times thicker than his are..thats what she said..

 

[Ninjabowler]

dude we have a line of 20 , our restaurant seats over 500 people right downtown, im the grill chef - i started fryer/salads, ive done pizza and all the other shit. i want my own small cafe one day that does all fresh everything in house.

Everyone wants their own cafe, trust me, you dont. 7/10 fail within the first year, 18 hour days, staffing problems, slow seasons, taxes, food is so perishable. I was a diehard purest of a chef, fresh chopped garlic, hand squeezed citrus juices, no microwave, everything possible from scratch. If you want to make money in the restaurant game buy a mc donalds franchise. Cold hard truth, theyve always got a line. Its sad that people would rather eat at a chain when theres a mom n pops place with cheaper better food. If a can of dog food costs a buck and a hamburger costs a buck, what kind of quality do you think the hamburger is?

 

[Ninjabowler]

I never saw dry ice in grocery stores in canada either but i dont think its illegal lol

 

[Ninjabowler]

Talk to your next purveyor on the loading dock and i bet he can get you some

 

[7Luiji7]

Everyone wants their own cafe, trust me, you dont. 7/10 fail within the first year, 18 hour days, staffing problems, slow seasons, taxes, food is so perishable. I was a diehard purest of a chef, fresh chopped garlic, hand squeezed citrus juices, no microwave, everything possible from scratch. If you want to make money in the restaurant game buy a mc donalds franchise. Cold hard truth, theyve always got a line. Its sad that people would rather eat at a chain when theres a mom n pops place with cheaper better food. If a can of dog food costs a buck and a hamburger costs a buck, what kind of quality do you think the hamburger is?

i know this but with the right team anything is possible. and yea theyre not allowed to sell it in stores like that.

 

[Ninjabowler]

A good cook will do anything for his chef, if it means finding fresh rosemerry when every store is out but you know where theres some hideing in the patissiers reach in, or mysteriously ending up in the possetion the competitors compressor from their walk in on a friday morning. These types of over and above the call of duty actions are what makes you a fandangeler. Talk to the fish purveyor, he can probably get you some. Our fish used to come straight from cape cod and it would be in austin in time for the dinner rush. I used to get bags of dry ice packed in with the oysters sometimes. If you get some, put it in a cloth bag and keep it wrapped tight in your freezer, fandangelin, not to be confused with waggin your dangle. If you waggle your dangle in dry ice youll fandangle a mangled dingle. Good luck....

 

[7Luiji7]

A good cook will do anything for his chef, if it means finding fresh rosemerry when every store is out but you know where theres some hideing in the patissiers reach in, or mysteriously ending up in the possetion the competitors compressor from their walk in on a friday morning. These types of over and above the call of duty actions are what makes you a fandangeler. Talk to the fish purveyor, he can probably get you some. Our fish used to come straight from cape cod and it would be in austin in time for the dinner rush. I used to get bags of dry ice packed in with the oysters sometimes. If you get some, put it in a cloth bag and keep it wrapped tight in your freezer, fandangelin, not to be confused with waggin your dangle. If you waggle your dangle in dry ice youll fandangle a mangled dingle. Good luck....

lmfao, im going to look in to geting some for shits and gigs. i most likely will use it for cooking though as that is what i love to do

 

[Ninjabowler]

lmfao, im going to look in to geting some for shits and gigs. i most likely will use it for cooking though as that is what i love to do

The only thing i know of to "cook with dry ice" is a tea cup filled with lemon or rosemerry scented panna cotta that goes out on crushed dry ice and lemon zest or muddled rosemerry and gets hot water from a tea pot poured over the ice which makes the scented vapour enhance the flavours of the panna cotta. Or just roll up a bunch of it in the bottom of your jeans, pour hot water on em and do a chorus line dance down the line in the middle of the rush when you know, 100% that your shits covered while smoke flies out of your pants. That will grant you legendary status and probably get you laid....i have alot of ideas that would work,in theory. The rolled up jeans thing works, so does the panna cotta one but ive never tried just letting dry ice evaporate on my plants, nor have i tried wrapping my plants in christmas lights and puting presents under them but as i eliminate these things from my bucket list ill let you know how it all turns out.....i have a crazy idea for gowing in the back of a toilet tank, dont forget to flush 10 days before your done....you laugh now but smoke one and think about it...ya still no huh?

 

[imchucky666]

I know some places got tired of carrying it, because the kids would buy it, then sit out front with plastic soda bottles with a little water in them, drop in a chunk of the dry ice, screw the cap on real quick, then throw them and wait for it to blow up and scare the shit out of somebody going through the parking lot.

 

[Ninjabowler]

I just found a couple sets of balls on my plants after seven days. You should be close to seeing sex..giggidy..how long have they been switched for? You see any hairy vaginas or nut sacs yet? My two biggest are studs i think. Im going to wait a few more days to be sure. I hope your big one turns out to be a big fat chick...correction...your big fat ones a chick im 100% sure of it. (Hopefully lol)