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ChesusRice

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echelon1k1 said:
Can you be 100% sure they didn't gain the capability from Russia? Russia have been helping the, out alot and only increasing they're strategic weapons capabilities while the US and her allies have been engaged in multiple wars pouring money down a black hole.Back to your circle jerk.
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Are you sure that no one can tell that most of the time you are entirely full of shit?
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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Dr Kynes said:
uhh.. dude.

the chinese and the US are the only nations who have demonstrated the ability to drop a satellite, and that was only with satellites they controlled themselves, shooting somebody else's would be a whole new ballgame, targeting wise.

as far as your main thrust, iran has no ability to drop a satellite, they dont even claim that, since it would be absurd. further, the idea that terrorist groups could manage to shoot down a satellite hinges upon their first mission,

Capturing Tony Stark.

seriously, despite their bluster, vitriol and vehemence the iranians have a long history of NOT starting shit, they have never even attacked israel, they just bluster and shake their fists a lot. hell they didnt even START the war with iraq, if the iranians DO get their mitts on a nuclear weapon, it's doubtful their would use it unless somebody starts shit. if i were in their place, with the US constantly threatening me, blustering and squawking about war (especially after the whole deposing of their government in 53) i would want a nuclear deterrent too.

but they signed the non-proliferation treaty, took the benefits of the treaty, and promised to not seek weapons technology. they need to either abandon the treaty and forego the benefits, or accept the deal and let the iaea inspect their nuclear research facilities. they cant have it both ways, just like sadam couldnt have his cease fire after gulf war 1, but still shoot at coalition forces and prevent hans blix and his bikini inspection team from looking for the shit they actually still had.

and yes, iraq had wmd's just no nukes. there have been plenty of chemical weapons caches found, and many suspicious bio-research labs uncovered. consult your wikileaks for full details.
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Keynes one of the first time we agree. Although I will note SOME of Iraqs CBR capability was left over from Gulf1.
 
Doer

Doer

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echelon1k1 said:
Iran has ICBM capabilities. Most countrys have an "anti-Sat" capability with modifications to ICBM systems. Space based weapons platforms is anything but new. The US is leading thanks to regan's SDI. Conventional Anti-Sat isn't required it's to overt. But kinetic energy based weapons are the way of the future and terrorist groups will not be gaining those capabilities. Without a TS/SCI clearance you sir, no nothing more than the your average punter.
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What the Hell! I just said that. "...terrorist groups will not be gaining those." So you too are baiting and insulting thru sophistry. Another toadstool. Terrorism is infiltration, boy. And how stupid to think that anti-sat is just a simple step from ICBM. Get a brain, and think.
 
Doer

Doer

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echelon1k1 said:
Thats why the US has the space fence. We'll one reason anyway.
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You are having a problem with Realism. There is no Space Fence, yet. You are just too lazy to look up the facts. ------------ Space Fence will replace the existing Air Force Space Surveillance System, or VHF Fence, which has been in service since the early 1960s. The new system’s initial operational capability is scheduled for 2017. http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/space-fence.html
 
Doer

Doer

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echelon1k1 said:
Can you be 100% sure they didn't gain the capability from Russia? Russia have been helping the, out alot and only increasing they're strategic weapons capabilities while the US and her allies have been engaged in multiple wars pouring money down a black hole. Back to your circle jerk.
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Please provide more than partisan prattle.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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Doer said:
Agree. They absolutely do not. ICBM is a sub-orbital weapon. What stuff!
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Reza Kahlilia former CIA agent inside the IRGC disagrees. http://atimetobetray.com/blog/china-is-helping-to-arm-iran-and-sidestep-sanctions-thanks-to-an-assist-from-north-korea/

I know you night argue ICBM v IRBM but that all depends on how it's launched. Again you can argue Iran's capabilities, but they got a USAF RQ-170 without shooting it down.

I'm more inclined to believe current and former intelligence officers.
 
Doer

Doer

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echelon1k1 said:
Reza Kahlilia former CIA agent inside the IRGC disagrees. http://atimetobetray.com/blog/china-is-helping-to-arm-iran-and-sidestep-sanctions-thanks-to-an-assist-from-north-korea/ I know you Might argue ICBM v IRBM but that all depends on how it's launched. Again you can argue Iran's capabilities, but they got a USAF RQ-170 without shooting it down. I'm more inclined to believe current and former intelligence officers.
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If you just run off belief and don't triangulate for the truth, then good luck. It all depend on how it is fueled and guided. That is ICBM. NOT anti-sat. In fact, ICBM related to anti-sat is sophisty. Deflection, and false claims. We don't use ICBM and no one used ICBM for anti-sat.-----------------------para---------------------------------- That's just wrong. We have a terminal guidance package that fits the Standard Ship Missile and can be fitted to a variant of that carried by the F-18, I think it is. IAC, that drone may have simply crashed had a lose of control and failure of the self-destruct. Or they made a model. It is a dis-information war. We are in terror war, with Persia since the Shah, and have been for generations before we called it that. So, if you think I'm trying to convince you of something, get more clue. I could not care less, who or what you believe. I'm attempting discussion with non-toadstool, actual thinkers.
 
Doer

Doer

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cannabineer said:
ASATs are also suborbital. cn
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It is a sub-orbital, anti-weapon. It's not based on ICBM, but the Standard Missile. Is the terminal kill package in orbit or at orbit? Does it matter. It doesn't seem me to be the issue. An ICBM needs a re-entry, phase to be a weapon. The ASAT, doesn't. And to others, if seeking facts is anal, then indeed I am. Not that I care what you spew. Do you have any other arm chair evaluations above your ability to judge? Of course you do.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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Doer said:
In fact, ICBM related to anti-sat is sophisty. Deflection, and false claims. We don't use ICBM and no one used ICBM for anti-sat.
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Anti-sat comes from ICBM. The two are related.

"Not merely did China demonstrate an ASAT capability on January 11, 2007 more recently it demonstrated the SC-19 ASAT in an ABM roll in country when it tested the derivation on the modified KT-1 which is derivation on the DF-31 ICBM on January 11, 2010."

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/world/china/asat.htm

Without a security clearance everyone here is "arm chair evaluators" - you're no different
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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lokie said:
if the hnic gets back in the truth will never be herd. sad but so.
Mostly he pardons all but him self and then brokers a deal for the
rendition he is willing to recite for his own pardon.


all the while smiling in disgrace.
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don't ya think this was kinda racist, old white racist guy?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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lokie said:
if the hnic gets back in the truth will never be herd. sad but so.
Mostly he pardons all but him self and then brokers a deal for the
rendition he is willing to recite for his own pardon.


all the while smiling in disgrace.
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well none of that happened, but you sure seemed to stop worrying about the truth now that the president isn't an "n" you racist little two faced shit.

4,000 flu deaths so far this year, and the elderly and infirm like you are prime candidates to make that number grow.
 
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