EVERY car is dangerous when its in an ACCIDENT!!! ALL OF THEM!!! You don't just haphazardly slam 2 ton metal things around and expect no one to ever get hurt.
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mr2shim
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old VW beetle is pretty unsafe in a frontal, almost 100% chance you're going to die. As is the VW bus. Car manufactures have a nice long history of making death traps they know they shouldn't have, but continue to push it because profit > people
Formula One car comes to mind, cars CAN be made safer, they would just cost manufactures a shit ton to implement the technology but I don't think they have that much care. They would take a huge hit profit wise to do it and not increase the cost of the car significantly.
canndo
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That has nothing to do with the incident. I believe that every law suit filed was won against Ford, or they settled. No one used the "every car is dangerous" line of defense.
As I said, the point is very very simple. Ford knew, Ford didn't fix it and their reasoning was that it was cheaper just to let people roast to death.
Grandpapy
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And the more uneducated the are, the easier to sell to.
When did they force you to buy a car?
Sorry dude, if you were not aware that you take on risk by driving a vehicle then you probably didn't realize that you could die at any second by mere randomness.
how many people died?
mr2shim
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Honestly, how often do you think anyone goes to a dealership and they car they're looking to buy has a picture of a 30mph crash test next to it? Even if it's the most unsafe car ever made, how are they suppose to know?
canndo
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I don't know, nor does it matter. you said 28, you didn't say how many were incapacitated or injured - that is as good a figure as any.
canndo
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It doesn't matter that the buyer knew - the company knew. The Company Knew. If the company didn't know there would not be this discussion because it would have been accidental on all party's part.
So you run a red light and run into me, yet you want to claim its Ford's fault.
mr2shim
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but people get rear ended all the time, I don't really think every car that gets rear ended bursts into flames. Or does it?
Every car manufacturer alive knows that use of its product is going to KILL some of them, regardless of process.
Did you know that knife manufacturers make really sharp things that could cut you if you use them in an improper way or even if you were negligent in its use? AND THEY KNOW IT!!!!!! OMG we need to make knife manufacturers redesign those knives so they can't do that.
I have never been rear ended in my 50+ years.
FYI its not about being rear ended, its about whether or not you think cars should be 100% safe no matter what you do. At least that is the point Canndo is trying to make.
After all, car manufacturers KNOW that driving their products at maximum speed into immovable objects will most likely kill someone, so they need to design the car to be safe from that type of crash, or any other.
mr2shim
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I don't think you can compare cars to knives or guns. Cars aren't designed as a weapon whereas knifes and guns are.
canndo
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There you are, dancing around the facts again. Car manufacturers are cognisant that their products will kill or disable but they are not usually aware of exactly how - Ford was and it had the fix. If knife manufacturers sold a knife that tended to close on the hand because a lock failed, they would be negligent. If a ladder manufacturer knew that it's braces tended to break under the strain of 130 lbs and told no one and did not fix the problem then they would be held negligent as well. Ford knew exactly what it was doing.
mr2shim
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Cars can't be 100% safe as long as they are operated by humans. Like I said earlier, you can't police stupid. You can do your very best. Car manufactures don't always do that. If you deny that you're lying or are a fool. Back in my grandfathers day (30-40's) cars didn't even have seat belts because they weren't needed.
I guarantee you Ford or Honda or Toyota or whoever, knew full well something they released shouldn't have been but did so any way choosing to take the lawsuits oppose to fixing the problem because the latter would have cost more.
kelly4
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A person also doesn't need to be doing drugs, but I'm for legalizing those, so why not big pops?
Maybe after Gary Johnson legalizes things we can get him to work on bigger Mtn. Dews.
Carne Seca
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NoDrama loves use false equivalency. It's one of his favorite tactics.
Samwell Seed Well
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lol impotent argumentsNoDrama loves use false equivalency. It's one of his favorite tactics.