was talking to chedz... and 50 litre is also perfect for my application. Not too big at all. It works exactly the same way, except the coco breaks down over time, perlite does not. The reason i don't like coco is i used to bag the shit, and i've seen some crud in the best brands. You don't know what's in it, it's not all 100% coco fibres, there is always traces of seeds, bugs, eggs. I have seen for a fact under strict testing. 50 Litres of coco is easy to fill. So it doesn't matter if i'm dwc or whatever. Fact is the roots needed that space or they simply wouldn't grow like that. Talkin bout using an airpot in my system? What a bogus idea. You really don't understand the science of plants. LOL you try and have a 4 inch airpot and a 8 inch standar pot side by side, exact same medium. I bet you the bigger pot out harvest the smaller. How in what way do you possibly think that crowding the roots in any shape or form can be a good thing? The bigger pot is going to grow, and grow and produce a bigger plant. Laughable it really is. You have been sucked into a myth. You are a nice grower by the looks of those pics, THAT is where your yields are coming from. Why give the plant a 'maybe' at a big healthy life? instead put them in something that under certain climates the roots will expand and give you a healthier more robust plant. Its been the science of years to know that pot size determines plant size. Horticulture doesn't just take a sudden magical shift. It's like putting a seedling in a drinking cup, and you think that when the roots get crowded, that poking holes all round the sides is going to sustain that seedling? Ummmmmmmm no.
I know 50L is perfect for your application and not to big you could probs run 100L an still fill with roots in a month or 2 with how you feed and dwc setup its the nature of it, where in coco its a lot slower you dont end up with no where near as many roots in such a short time, also coco is kinda hydro as its inert an doesnt hold nutes like soil, so waterin often is key to big yields, thats why me an many coco growers will try an give advice to go in the smallest pots possible with out squashing or restrictin the roots so you can get waterin down to daily feeds earlier on as you can. And with marijuana havin a small life span say 13-14 weeks in my setup with coco you just aint gunna full a standard 50L pot in that time they will be a lot, but then lots of waste nutes to wet all the coco, thats goin on me an other coco users ive seen lookin at the roots, if others can then post your secrets on the coco growers thread so all us guys can take notes, honestly no bullshit with coco if you want to grow trees like 7ft plus huge bushes the biggest you need to go is no more then 30L ive seen many a grows with huge plants in less aswell.
Now i know your system then no you couldnt use a airpot in it, what i was thinkin was a airpot with claypebbles on a constant recirculating feed thats it, so dwc same as you.
oh and i understand the science of plants very well thank you and i know all what you are sayin about more space for roots an not crowding, an pot size determines plant size are all valid statements and are correct in most circumstances apart from with airpots.
All this talk of bein able to use half the size pots is no myth or bullshit ive read that im tryin to tell ya its what ive noticed myself from experience, i grew in standard 11L pots then i tried 10L airpots worked ok didnt notice much deference really but was runnin different strains, it was the 1L aipots i use for veg which got me noticing somethin i noticed that instead of my mothers an young cuts gettin root bound or slowin growth an needin pottin up like they usaully did in my normal 1.5L pots they just kept goin an growin beautifully this is when i thought fuck it an decided to let 1 of my livers cuts stay in the 1L full term to see what the things could do, i vegged for 4 weeks an flowered for 9 in yes a 1L airpot the plant grew nearly identical to its sister in a 10L airpot just slightly smaller but yielded the same just over 2oz. so thats when i started noticing plants didnt get root bound in airpots, so after that i was gunna buy 3Ls an run small plants in those but ended up gettin the 6Ls, then i ran all my same clones same veg everythin same, apart from 6L airpots instead of 11L standards and increased my yields, now a few friends an other coco growers all use the 6Ls instead of there standard pots ranging from anythin like 10L to 18L an all have either noticed no drop in size or yield or improved it.
All airpots do is insteasd of havin say 100 roots circulating the pot and filling it, you end up with say 500 goin from the center root ball to the side of the pot in a shorter time due to the airprunning coursing new root growth , so with marijuana an its short life cycle you end up with a robust root system with a bigger enough mass (probs same mass as roots in bigger pot just not circled around) to sustain the plant in a shorter time which is key for a good yield an the plant can grow to what ever size it can with no root restrictions.
I seen a party cup grower few weeks back did a kinda sog grow, his plants stayed tiny cos was root bound to fuck in the cups, he trimmed them so was like small single cola plants, well he got 5 x 1L airpots to try see how they did (they was only 150MLish bigger then the cups) they propa fucked him up! no gettin root bound the plants grow big like they would usually full size, he ended up havin to trim supercropp an lst the fuckers just to get them in his setup, his usually perfect lookin canopy was fucked lol hes gone back to his party cups now but users the 1L airs for his mothers like i do, longest ive had a mother in was 12 weeks before i chopped an replaced her, not bad for a 1L pot.
So my point is that i have no proof in increased yield from airpots only my own plants which could be other factors but i can prove that you can use a slightly smaller pot an grow the same size plants with same yield, in some cases better. That is my only argument with you bro everythin else i pretty agree on but untill you try it for your self which i dont really think your gunna you dont really have any ground to stand on in the argument, i know at least 5 peeps that have tried an proved the smaller airpots work, not just what youve herd, read or been told from your mentor and believe is fact.
Kinda gettin boring also an bet its do mrpeoples nut all this bollox in his thread, once youve replied ill drop over to yours continue if you like, ant got much to say tho after that long arse post lol dont think ive wrote 1 so long in time lol
Have a good day!
