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when is the right time to start flowering?

juts

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my plants are 5 weeks now and are 7-8inches-8nodes but they're side branches are still forming.. should i start flowering next week? or wait a little longer? gave them organic nutes for the 1st time last week and they love it [yea mandala's strains, ive followed their fertilizing guide] ima light feed them some bloom nutes the day after tomorrow

TIA
 

er0senin

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most people flower after 4-8 weeks of vegetative state. if you keep vegging sidebranches will keep forming non the less. it got nothing to do with when vegetative state is done.

Most people start flower after they get colateral branching and/or preflowers.
What strain is it you have?

Best regards
 

smokinrav

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When to flower is not just a general question, but actually depends on factors in the grow room, specifically what size light are you going to flower under.

The bigger the light, the longer you can go before flowering.

Using 6 1000 HPS? Veg that bitch for months if you want.

Using old 40 watt tube fluoros? Your plant is already too big.
 

juts

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most people flower after 4-8 weeks of vegetative state. if you keep vegging sidebranches will keep forming non the less. it got nothing to do with when vegetative state is done.

Most people start flower after they get colateral branching and/or preflowers.
What strain is it you have?

Best regards
i have 4 satori, 3 NLxAfghan, 1LSD & 1JHauto[showed sex already 2 weeks ago] and this is my first ever official indo0r gr0w[yea i itched for a multi strain grow lol]:weed:
so do i still have to wait until the side branches grow enough? or should i tie them leaning a bit to focus some light on those areas? i dont want to really LST them for now maybe for my next grow i will
thanks brotha!
 

juts

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btw if i started flowering them 1-2 weeks from now will the side branches still grow? or will they turn into 1-cola plants? :shock:
 

er0senin

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satori is a sativa dominant hybrid who need abou 10-11 weeks of bloom ( some phenos 9 but they are more 50-50 inica sativa)

how bis is your area and what pot sizes? 9 plants under a 400w is a little much unless you are going for small plants/sog style.

Also the satori only comes in regular seeds righ? the sidebranches will turn to budsites but will stretch somewhat. personally i like few big lst'd plants over sog style. but it all comes down to the size of your grow area. also your auto will get dimmished yield from swapping to 12/12

Depending on your area you probably should aim for the 1 cola style.... if you are going for big plants, remember that each plant needs about 100w light.

btw the satori is awesome smoke! VERY special taste
 

juts

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satori is a sativa dominant hybrid who need abou 10-11 weeks of bloom ( some phenos 9 but they are more 50-50 inica sativa)

how bis is your area and what pot sizes? 9 plants under a 400w is a little much unless you are going for small plants/sog style.

Also the satori only comes in regular seeds righ? the sidebranches will turn to budsites but will stretch somewhat. personally i like few big lst'd plants over sog style. but it all comes down to the size of your grow area. also your auto will get dimmished yield from swapping to 12/12

Depending on your area you probably should aim for the 1 cola style.... if you are going for big plants, remember that each plant needs about 100w light.

btw the satori is awesome smoke! VERY special taste
thanks!
4x4x8 cab bro they are in their final 3gal pots now and hoping for a maximum of 5-6 girls well i guess ima tie them so they lean a little focusing some light on those branches to be
ima post some pics soon but not now lol
 

er0senin

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You should try getting your plants to a hight of at least 45-60 cm imho. also, you should top and LST the shit out of them (not the auto!).
definitely throw in more lights! 400w can be used in that tent size, but it is on the low side and you have WAY to many plants in there for a 400w to cover that shit!

A quality 600w bulb can give you almost twice the amount of lumens for only 200w more.
Another good option would be if you get another 400w ballast and go 800w mh/hps combo.
You will not regret it! ofc its
gonna cost a bit extra BUT if you use IE a 600w for bloom 12/12 it will consume the same amount of energy as a 400w in veg 18/6.

400w X 18 hours = 7,2 kwh
600w X 12 hours = 7,2 kwh
800w X 12 hours = 9,6 kwh

Ofc you could always put in some 25w cfls to get a bigger lightprint. thats probably the cheapest way to go. but with HID light you get better yield and quality.
 

juts

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You should try getting your plants to a hight of at least 45-60 cm imho. also, you should top and LST the shit out of them (not the auto!).
definitely throw in more lights! 400w can be used in that tent size, but it is on the low side and you have WAY to many plants in there for a 400w to cover that shit!

A quality 600w bulb can give you almost twice the amount of lumens for only 200w more.
Another good option would be if you get another 400w ballast and go 800w mh/hps combo.
You will not regret it! ofc its
gonna cost a bit extra BUT if you use IE a 600w for bloom 12/12 it will consume the same amount of energy as a 400w in veg 18/6.

400w X 18 hours = 7,2 kwh
600w X 12 hours = 7,2 kwh
800w X 12 hours = 9,6 kwh

Ofc you could always put in some 25w cfls to get a bigger lightprint. thats probably the cheapest way to go. but with HID light you get better yield and nquality.
thanks bro sure il do 400w MH/HPS combo or drop in some cfl's mid level to reduce heat though i have an a/c running every now and then im guessing im right on target i suspect 4of7 to be girls the rest looks male but who knows? but i would love to have some males for making some extra seeds if cloning fails thats why i made another 3x6 room in another area
 

chrishydro

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Hydro and now Soil I put them in flower when they are the size of a Basketball or if they start to show sex. Works for me, good luck.
 

juts

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and why dont u clone some of those before flowering get you a shit more bud
their side branches are still sprouting :wall: and i dont know why! i just put in mylar yesterday i guess the flat white paint doesnt do its job ima tie them a bit tomorrow to expose some of the sprouting side branches
 

tusseltussel

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Just flower them bitches now if anything top en wait a few days then flower them. You got a 400w you don't get much penetration so flower them bitches
 

missnu

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my plants are 5 weeks now and are 7-8inches-8nodes but they're side branches are still forming.. should i start flowering next week? or wait a little longer? gave them organic nutes for the 1st time last week and they love it [yea mandala's strains, ive followed their fertilizing guide] ima light feed them some bloom nutes the day after tomorrow

TIA
You can start flowering whenever you want...it just depends on how much room you have because some plants can get 3x larger during flower than they were in veg, but with a little training you can take down on the upwards height if that is an issue. But you can flower a 6 in clone, or a 6ft tree, it's all the same in the end, only one is little and one is well, big...
 

missnu

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their side branches are still sprouting :wall: and i dont know why! i just put in mylar yesterday i guess the flat white paint doesnt do its job ima tie them a bit tomorrow to expose some of the sprouting side branches
The plant will continue to grow vegetatively until you switch the lights to 12/12...so as long as it is on 18/6 or better it will keep growing and growing, with more side branches and top branches and bottom branches...it is a plant still.
 
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