A REAL commitment to change the 25-mile rule

Chronicseeker

New Member
Incorrect. Your first posts on this forum were trying to pimp out cultivation services for Hortus ONe. After a very mild amount of research into them I saw them spamming Craigslist and later found out they used pics on their site of "grow rooms" that were photos I could find elsewhere on the web.

Not sure why you keep coming back to me but for a guy who has been on this forum for a very short time, you sure did ruffle a lot of feathers.

I don't wish you or anyone in your group anything but success, alas im an old man who happens to be heavily invested in this industry, heavily involved with getting this proposition put through, highly involved with the politics of doing so for almost 3yrs now. Forgive me if I am not the easiest to buy into the new guys "expertise", mass quantities of opinions or bullshit.

cheers
I like to bring facts to life that is all. I came on this forum to share knowledge after reading a bunch of inaccurate info that people were giving to one another ESP. you Lucius. Sorry it took me so long, jk.... There are some great posters on here and I respect their words and great info, so thank you to those individuals.
Im glad you are heavily invested, I totally misjudged you I guess, from your posts I thought your were either fairly young or possibly Gerald Gaines, lol... You say that you are so deep into this scene, props for immersing yourself, but let me tell you, getting into bed with everyone you can in the industry does not give you any experience whatsoever. I bet whatever op you are apart of will have meds @ $60 and 1/8th. Initially you were pumping ounces to patients at $350, foreshadowing here, how long have you been producing? You seemed surprised in another post about transplanting into different mediums.?.? Good luck to you sir, I can only wish you the best as you have me and FYI "dont buy into the new guy", you are a new guy.

Heavily involved with getting prop 203 passed? Should we start blame you for the implementation of the 25 mile rule?
I just ruffle feathers when they need to be, is there a problem with being a realist?

I dont care about the next up and coming company, there are a million here in AZ. I just dont think it is fair to judge people when you yourself have no industry experience except meeting players or considering yourself one. Or does money give you experience, because I in that case I would like you to sell me some. I did not judge CFCC or other similar businesses until I saw and spoke with people and their operation. You even reached out to Gerald in the forums that he is being ripped apart, social climber if I have ever seen one, grabbing every foothold possible... Do you have any morals or is it just about the dollar? Ever heard of judging a book by its cover, I have never met you but I could probably pick your oh so humble self out of a crowd in an instant...

All I want is patients to have quality meds at a decent price, I am a patient myself. Sorry, I thought I mentioning medical marijuana related services, that could possibly benefit people, on a public information forum was a good idea. I mean is this not the place to talk about stuff like that?

This will probably cause another rant of self entitlement, a huge thing in AZ I have come to realize.
Let the future medicine and the prices talk for themselves, its a shame to think that someone would instantly turn down a helping hand solely due to a judgmental mentality.

You say you are an old guy too, I hate to burst your bubble but most of the people with cannabis related experience are younger souls. Growing a crop 20 yrs ago does not cut it today. Cannabis is medicine but it is also cultural and the younger generation are the ones who take this industry by storm. They may be backed by money but the youngsters are the ones who know how to grow, embrace new techniques and understand medicinal quality. I fall in the middle age bracket but I would pit a group of young, eager to prove their ability growers against older stubborn gardeners almost any day.
Someone who does not admit that there is always room for improvement is a failure. I am not saying the older generation cannot grow but just like government there comes a time to acknowledge the passing of the torch.
 

HB DC

Active Member
Wow !!

Doesn't surprise me!! Look what Cali is doing right now!!

No dispensaries = NO "25 Mile Rule"

Wow we may have found a simpler route around the "25 Mile Rule"

I would be happy to see alot of Collectives, coops, clubs than dispensaries having monopoly rights on all patients!!
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
I read Jan Brewers response and she basically said she was against the law personally but she cant do anything about it and has to follow what the court ruled , so looks like dispensaries are coming.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
I read Jan Brewers response and she basically said she was against the law personally but she cant do anything about it and has to follow what the court ruled , so looks like dispensaries are coming.
Pending the 2012 election and Brewers padding of the medical board it should be interesting to see where the dispensaries stand in a year. That Sativex article was depressing...
There are people saying they have been in talks with some wealthy indivduals who are saying the 25 mile will be abolished. I do not know the validity, probably just fluff, just thought I would throw it out there.

There is always an option to try and ban dispensaries on the ballot... Happened in CO, caregivers run the show now.
JUST POSTED THIS AM:
Brewer urged to halt medical-marijuana program
Thirteen Arizona county attorneys are urging Gov. Jan Brewer to halt the state's medical-marijuana program, including Yavapai County.

Heres an exerpt:
Polk wrote that she has been told Arizona's newly appointed U.S. Attorney John Leonardo "fully intends to prevent any dispensaries from operating in Arizona by seizing each and every one as it opens and commits violations" of the federal act.
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
You say you are an old guy too, I hate to burst your bubble but most of the people with cannabis related experience are younger souls. Growing a crop 20 yrs ago does not cut it today. Cannabis is medicine but it is also cultural and the younger generation are the ones who take this industry by storm. .

LOL. Just stop. Seriously.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
LOL. Just stop. Seriously.
Funny that is what you chose to address....
Just like I said, not admitting there is room for change is failure.
I imagine we will have both sides arguing who is leading the industry shortly, older/ younger. I personally would like more people with real life business experience, compassion and cannabis knowledge to set the stage but sadly those individuals are far from none.
I bet most dispensaries out here will realize this industry is going to be saturated with younger people when the interview process starts up.. That being said, if you are a 45 yr old bud tender you have your priorities screwed up...

I would put my best three growers against your best ten any day.
I dont think there is anything wrong with friendly competition.. :mrgreen: it might be a humbling experience.
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
You say you are an old guy too, I hate to burst your bubble but most of the people with cannabis related experience are younger souls. Growing a crop 20 yrs ago does not cut it today. Cannabis is medicine but it is also cultural and the younger generation are the ones who take this industry by storm. They may be backed by money but the youngsters are the ones who know how to grow, embrace new techniques and understand medicinal quality. I fall in the middle age bracket but I would pit a group of young, eager to prove their ability growers against older stubborn gardeners almost any day.
Someone who does not admit that there is always room for improvement is a failure. I am not saying the older generation cannot grow but just like government there comes a time to acknowledge the passing of the torch.
Just like I said, not admitting there is room for change is failure.
I imagine we will have both sides arguing who is leading the industry shortly, older/ younger.
I bet most dispensaries out here will realized this industry is going to be saturated with younger people when the interview process starts up.. That being said, if you are a 40 yr old bud tender you have your priorities screwed up...

I would put my best three growers against your best ten any day.
I dont think there is anything wrong with friendly competition.. :mrgreen: it might be a humbling experience.
Sadly, you are correct. Old people continue to think their old ways are the right ways and as much validity as most have, there is always room for improvement. Nobody is perfect and neither are their grows.

I love competition...as Ive had most co-ops back down lol I'd love to have a friendly one with some local growers. :) Can i put up mine and some of my growers vs your guys?? I think a public competition is in order :weed:

@Chronicseeker : I need some real competition...I have yet to be humbled in this state. All Sarcasm aside, I am being dead serious. lol
 

HB DC

Active Member
I read Jan Brewers response and she basically said she was against the law personally but she cant do anything about it and has to follow what the court ruled , so looks like dispensaries are coming.
I was holding my breath for that one!!
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
Funny that is what you chose to address....
Just like I said, not admitting there is room for change is failure.
I imagine we will have both sides arguing who is leading the industry shortly, older/ younger. I personally would like more people with real life business experience, compassion and cannabis knowledge to set the stage but sadly those individuals are far from none.
I bet most dispensaries out here will realize this industry is going to be saturated with younger people when the interview process starts up.. That being said, if you are a 45 yr old bud tender you have your priorities screwed up...

I would put my best three growers against your best ten any day.
I dont think there is anything wrong with friendly competition.. :mrgreen: it might be a humbling experience.
My Dick is bigger than yours! That is literally what you just said in so many words.

YOU WIN!

haha....that's awesome
 

HB DC

Active Member
OK folks!! When are we all going to get along!!

Is one's pride more important than One's rights?

Why not start a thread to FIX your issues between each other and stop clouding others with non sense!!

I see no validity in either of your points!! But I am sure if we were all in person we would have a lot different words to exchange!
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
My Dick is bigger than yours! That is literally what you just said in so many words.

YOU WIN!

haha....that's awesome
Maybe it is....
But my message was that I want to humble you by introducing you to a serious product and serious growers..
Did you miss the underlying message, maybe you could open your eyes a little and use one of these three growers I speak of? Some of them are here on this forum.. Or are you stuck in your ways, unable to see the room for improvement. Maybe i'm wrong and you have it down pat....

You never know maybe you would like some of their genetics, you seemed to be searching for them previously....

Sorry HB DC you are right, I will make a why Lucius is special thread later on.. JK Lucius just trying to bring some laughter to our argument. I dont need to start a thread to undermine you. :shock:
 

HB DC

Active Member
Sadly, you are correct. Old people continue to think their old ways are the right ways and as much validity as most have, there is always room for improvement. Nobody is perfect and neither are their grows.

I love competition...as Ive had most co-ops back down lol I'd love to have a friendly one with some local growers. :) Can i put up mine and some of my growers vs your guys?? I think a public competition is in order :weed:

@Chronicseeker : I need some real competition...I have yet to be humbled in this state. All Sarcasm aside, I am being dead serious. lol
Hey mate!!

Count me in! Awe!!

Arizona Canna Cup!!
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Hell lets hold one at the farmers market lol somewhere we can let people actually sample our product and rate it. Just like traditional cannabis cups. I am in search for some hydro that taste like my organic :)
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
Hell lets hold one at the farmers market lol somewhere we can let people actually sample our product and rate it. Just like traditional cannabis cups. I am in search for some hydro that taste like my organic :)
Stop looking, its not out there, lol, jk...
We need to have a set of judges whos pallets ranges from total noob to chronnoisseur.
This way the entire gamut will be covered..
I always worry that the farmers market will get raided, nothing would come out it hopefully but you never know what might happen in AZ.
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Stop looking, its not out there, lol, jk...
We need to have a set of judges whos pallets ranges from total noob to chronnoisseur.
This way the entire gamut will be covered..
I always worry that the farmers market will get raided, nothing would come out it hopefully but you never know what might happen in AZ.
Hey man I believe in aliens so I might as well believe its out there somewhere :) lol that would be a perfect fleet of judges. I have always worried too but what benefit would they get from raiding small time?? But I guess you can never be too careful.
 

HB DC

Active Member
We can always find a small place to start such an event!! Then see where it goes!!

Everything starts small!!

Exclusive event! Invite Only?



First rule of Az Canna Cup is you don't talk about AZ Canna Cup....
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
Organic will win the best tasting category but hydro growers and soil growers could win in different categories like " Bag appeal, bud size , buzz" organic would lose in the yield category against hydro.. So when you put those into consideration who knows who will win. At the end of the day it's "different tokes for different folks" the weed snobiness is on full throttle these days, sound like a bunch of broads arguing over what designer hand bag is better.
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Organic will win the best tasting category but hydro growers and soil growers could win in different categories like " Bag appeal, bud size , buzz" organic would lose in the yield category against hydro.. So when you put those into consideration who knows who will win. At the end of the day it's "different tokes for different folks" the weed snobiness is on full throttle these days, sound like a bunch of broads arguing over what designer hand bag is better.
I'd have to completely agree with this statement. Like I said before, I've had hydro feel way more potent and sometime look ridiculous. But smell and taste "should" be won by organically grown.
 
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