GOP senators block top Obama jobs initiativeBy Ted Barrett, CNN

ink the world

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Payback is already a bitch, do you think the democrats in the 209th congress were innocent of obstruction?
When was the last budget the democrat controlled senate has passed?

Both sides are guilty of not getting the peoples work done, your partisan eyes are just to blind to see it.
Thanks for highlighting the real problem here. This isn't a football game or warfare. The Republican scorched earth tactics and obstructionism isn't just hurting Democrats, it's hurting us all.

It's like you guys wanna take Obama down at any cost, if we all go down with him it's just part of war? For a movement that values patriotism so damned much the congressional Republicans have done nothing other than obstruct, hold pointless healthcare votes, introduce anti abortion bills and oppose the President every step of the way. They made it very clear publicly the #1 priority was to remove Obama.

Not rebuild the economy, not health care, not jobs; just obstruction at any cost to the American people.
 

beenthere

New Member
Thanks for highlighting the real problem here. This isn't a football game or warfare. The Republican scorched earth tactics and obstructionism isn't just hurting Democrats, it's hurting us all.

It's like you guys wanna take Obama down at any cost, if we all go down with him it's just part of war? For a movement that values patriotism so damned much the congressional Republicans have done nothing other than obstruct, hold pointless healthcare votes, introduce anti abortion bills and oppose the President every step of the way. They made it very clear publicly the #1 priority was to remove Obama.

Not rebuild the economy, not health care, not jobs; just obstruction at any cost to the American people.
If the democrat party hadn't been hijacked by far left progressives, there may have been some compromise from the democrats. The Obamacare bill was an extreme grab of government power, the jobs bill is just another failed stimulus plan wrapped up in a shiny new package, all of which we cannot afford!

And you expect the right to go along with this failed garbage?

The left tried their hardest to make Bush a one term president and failed, now you have the nerve to whine like little butt hurt babies when the right is doing the same thing!
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
How many democratic filibusters during Bush.s term?
How many appointments blocked?
Put a number on Democratic obstruction during Bushs term I fuckung dare you
 

beenthere

New Member
How many democratic filibusters during Bush.s term?
How many appointments blocked?
Put a number on Democratic obstruction during Bushs term I fuckung dare you



There ya go, now show me a republican congress that failed to pass a budget in over 3 years!
 

UncleBuck

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If the democrat party hadn't been hijacked by far left progressives...
lol.

the left has remained pretty much where they have been for the last 20 years. it's the right that has been moving further right since reagan and gingrich got in there.

 

ginwilly

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How do you know it didn't work?
For me to "know" it didn't work I look at the cost, as well as collateral costs of the policies enacted I see our debt has risen at almost a 5 to 1 ratio of the GDP. We are basically losing 78 cents a dollar on each "investment" we've made. While I agree that it's just my opinion that this describes a very poor investment, it's an opinion shared by many economists and financial experts. I've seen some that feel this is a viable long-term solution so I know not ALL share my opinion.
 

Dr Kynes

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lol.

the left has remained pretty much where they have been for the last 20 years. it's the right that has been moving further right since reagan and gingrich got in there.

cute chart buck, but unless you show who drafted it, the criteria for "liberal" and "conservative" metrics and how they did the math it means less than a jackson pollack painting.

where did this come from?
 

ginwilly

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I felt the breeze from that one sailing right over my head ... cn
too funny!

you need a southern interpreter, I got your back.

If I am cordial to you whether by polite society rules or genuine care I would ask of your mother's health and well being as well as those in your family and close friends that that I am familiar with.

Here they say "how's yer mommanem"? It was a compliment lol
 

Johnny Retro

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Nice wikipedia image, but what does it prove? The GOP still blocked the initiative....only 4 of them voted with the Democrats


I remember the last time we had a president to lower the deficit and actually improve the economy....he got blow jobs from white house aides and he actually got congress to work together instead of shitting all over each other daily.

A country divided is what they want, and that's exactly what they're getting.
So since it is a wiki image are you discounting it's credibility?

So if 4 republicans voted with the democrats, that means at least 8 democrats voted with the republicans. Not sure what your point is? All the left bitches about is the republican controlled house blocking bills. Now the democratic senate blocked a bill and all the sudden its the republicans fault.
Some top notch logic right there.
 

ChesusRice

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Filibuster-chart-100708.jpg

As this chart shows, never have so many filibusters been threatened as in the first session of the 110th Congress. In just the first year, Republicans filibustered more legislation, and required more cloture votes to break those filibusters, than in any Congress in recent history. By the time this term ends, Congress could well more than double the number of cloture votes of previous Congresses — including the ones that Republicans controlled and complained of Democratic 'obstruction.'
This is the result of a deliberate effort by the Republican minority to undercut the will of the majority of the American public, expressed when voters placed a Democratic majority in control of both houses of Congress. The filibuster, a procedure unique to the Senate to block an up-or-down vote on legislation unless a 60-vote supermajority agrees to proceed, has been historically used by both parties. But it has never been used as routinely as it has been by Republicans since January 2007.
 

Dr Kynes

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As this chart shows, never have so many filibusters been threatened as in the first session of the 110th Congress. In just the first year, Republicans filibustered more legislation, and required more cloture votes to break those filibusters, than in any Congress in recent history. By the time this term ends, Congress could well more than double the number of cloture votes of previous Congresses — including the ones that Republicans controlled and complained of Democratic 'obstruction.'
This is the result of a deliberate effort by the Republican minority to undercut the will of the majority of the American public, expressed when voters placed a Democratic majority in control of both houses of Congress. The filibuster, a procedure unique to the Senate to block an up-or-down vote on legislation unless a 60-vote supermajority agrees to proceed, has been historically used by both parties. But it has never been used as routinely as it has been by Republicans since January 2007.
and yet the previously proffered charts showed that after the 110th congress, filibustering dropped back to historically normal levels. could this possibly mean that the 110th congress tried to railroad through numerous bills that were so offensive to members of the minority party that they were forced to use the only tool at their disposal to stop the passage of those bills far more often than in previous less contentions sessions of congress? nah. that would make too much sense. instead lets focus on one single issue of dubious importance and ascribe to it all the hidden meanings we can shovel in. brilliant move. perhaps we could examine FDR's curiously unnoticed attempt to pack the supreme court for the support of his personal agenda. that agenda which remains controversial to this day is still dividing the country between those who pay for programs and those who benefit from them. the new deal is more like a raw deal, and a huge departure from Theodore Roosevelt's Square Deal.

nah lets not think about that, lets focus on petty partisan squabbling while the bandits rob our house and scald us with our own pudding broth.

both sides are small minded greedy assholes who treat the public coffers as their own personal piggy back. the shameless pricks pack on earmark after earmark for no purpose but personal enrichment and securing their re-election at public expense.
 

ChesusRice

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and yet the previously proffered charts showed that after the 110th congress, filibustering dropped back to historically normal levels. .

In the last Congress, the 111th Congress, there were an astonishing 136 motions to end filibusters. Moreover, unlike the eight percent of major bills subject to a filibuster 40 years ago, over 70 percent of major bills were targeted last Congress.
 

Dr Kynes

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In the last Congress, the 111th Congress, there were an astonishing 136 motions to end filibusters. Moreover, unlike the eight percent of major bills subject to a filibuster 40 years ago, over 70 percent of major bills were targeted last Congress.
and they were split almost equally between the two parties, each one throwing out the historically average-ish 50 or so filibusters. the dems had a slight edge, but niether party shot their wad like the 110th congress republicans.

whats your point? the democrats were simply filibustering in retaliation? republicans need to shoulder their share of the blame for the democrat's filibustering in the 111th?

get a grip.

both sides filibuster to stop legislation they really hate, or to be dicks. if you dont like it, vote the bums out. you can always vote for the non-incumbent. theres usually somebody who doesnt smell like a turd somewhere in the contest.
 

ginwilly

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whenever I thought of filibuster I thought of Mr. Smith goes to Washington and I've always wanted to watch one in progress. I didn't know nobody has to actually non-stop talk like in the movie, all they have to do is call it?
 

Dr Kynes

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whenever I thought of filibuster I thought of Mr. Smith goes to Washington and I've always wanted to watch one in progress. I didn't know nobody has to actually non-stop talk like in the movie, all they have to do is call it?
used to be you would take the floor and hold it, not allowing the motion to go to a vote by excercising the senates endless debate rules. these days the lazy fucks just call dibs on the floor and everybody accepts their word that they will jimmy stewart the fuck out of them for 5 straight days.

lazy bastards. i wish i could just phone in my INTENTION to go to work, then collect my pay.
 

UncleBuck

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at least bernie sanders had the decency to filibuster it right. can't say that about cockwad rand paul or dickknuckle mcconnell.
 

ChesusRice

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at least bernie sanders had the decency to filibuster it right. can't say that about cockwad rand paul or dickknuckle mcconnell.
Kind of blows my mind that one of the best politicians in washington
one of the most
moral
ethical
patriotic
is a
SOCIALiST
 

ginwilly

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used to be you would take the floor and hold it, not allowing the motion to go to a vote by excercising the senates endless debate rules. these days the lazy fucks just call dibs on the floor and everybody accepts their word that they will jimmy stewart the fuck out of them for 5 straight days.

lazy bastards. i wish i could just phone in my INTENTION to go to work, then collect my pay.
wouldn't you call them on it if it was the other team? I'd make them actually go through the act instead of just accepting it. Besides, fistfights in congress would be as exciting as fistfights in parliament (without the wigs of course).
 
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