You didn't build that

[ginwilly]

Well I guess being from asia I guess he don't understand that there were a lot of us around paying taxes to have roads built. Unless the bastard done it himself.

most of us pay taxes for the roads, the people who build the roads do so to get paid.

If I build a business off the beaten path out in the woods is the government obligated to build roads and clear the woods so my business prospers? of course not. You have to give a successful business man a little more credit than he couldn't have done it without the hwy system!

Pre-1950 businesses are laughing at your logic.

 

[ink the world]

Obama "who says it's OK to torture children?"

Fox News Headline: Socialist Obama today said "it's OK to torture children"

Saddest part is you idiots would believe it, even when presented the entire quote. Parrots

 

[MuyLocoNC]

you know Mittens is all for Corp...fuck the people

If corporations aren't people (employees, managers, board of directors, investors), then what are they? Cyborgs?

 

[ink the world]

They are business entities.

If a corporation is a person why isn't Exxon and BP in prison?

 

[cannabineer]

Dam,n I drink PBR drafts from time to time....Now I gotta go fuck my sister too!!?? Damn.

She hawt? cn

 

[cannabineer]

They are business entities.

If a corporation is a person why isn't Exxon and BP in prison?

Because USA law recognizes a corporation as a person. Interestingly, your legal person is just as much an abstraction ... it's the sum total of your legal transactions and states. Imo the whole "corporations are people" tripe is an initially willful, now ignorantly echoed misread of this bit of law. cn

 

[canndo]

most of us pay taxes for the roads, the people who build the roads do so to get paid.

If I build a business off the beaten path out in the woods is the government obligated to build roads and clear the woods so my business prospers? of course not. You have to give a successful business man a little more credit than he couldn't have done it without the hwy system!

Pre-1950 businesses are laughing at your logic.

Nobody said that the "others" who helped a business with such a thing as a road should not have or didn't get paid for their effort. The point is that we all stand on our infrastructure. pre 1950's folk had roads, just not freeways. They had the postal system by the way, and that postal system that runs at a loss has contributed to about every business in America - that government run disaster that every business still uses.

 

[ginwilly]

yep, I drive on roads and use the mail so I guess any success is not my doing and any failures are not my fault.

Steve Jobs "no really, I DID build that business"

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Obama "who says it's OK to torture children?"

Fox News Headline: Socialist Obama today said "it's OK to torture children"

Saddest part is you idiots would believe it, even when presented the entire quote. Parrots

The apologists for this Marxist prick are in full panic mode. As they should be. He doesn't REALLY embrace the tenets of his own core social and economic philosophy that he has been espousing for decades, it's just the big, bad Fox News crowd misinterpreting what he said in one speech. Simply disregard EVERYTHING else you know about him AND everything he's actually done the last three years.

Mmm-mmm, pablum is delicious.

 

[canndo]

If corporations aren't people (employees, managers, board of directors, investors), then what are they? Cyborgs?

There is not one word in the Constitution of the United States about Corporations, they are afforded no rights and no recognition as citizens. That a corporation is composed of people does not make it a person. An organization is a collection of individuals and not an individual itself. Organizations have different needs, values, understandings and actions. Coroporations do not value individual freedoms, health, interaction, all the things that true people value and so they should not be counted among citizens.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

They are business entities.

If a corporation is a person why isn't Exxon and BP in prison?

And what makes up these so called business entities? People. The same as churches, unions, schools and everything else. And the heads of corporations that are responsible for the decision to break the law, go to jail quite often.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

There is not one word in the Constitution of the United States about Corporations, they are afforded no rights and no recognition as citizens. That a corporation is composed of people does not make it a person. An organization is a collection of individuals and not an individual itself. Organizations have different needs, values, understandings and actions. Coroporations do not value individual freedoms, health, interaction, all the things that true people value and so they should not be counted among citizens.

So, exactly the same as unions, right?

 

[canndo]

yep, I drive on roads and use the mail so I guess any success is not my doing and any failures are not my fault.

Steve Jobs "no really, I DID build that business"

Any success is not your doing alone. If the roads are all destroyed or the postal service put to an end then it is possible that your failure is not your fault.

 

[canndo]

So, exactly the same as unions, right?

A union is not a citizen either it too has requirements and interests that are different than individuals and is not to be among individuals. Nothing about unions in the Constitution either.

 

[ginwilly]

Any success is not your doing alone. If the roads are all destroyed or the postal service put to an end then it is possible that your failure is not your fault.

Or..... being the successful entrepreneur that I am, I start a business that doesn't rely on the post office and roads. Maybe I could even start a company that repairs roads or delivers packages.

Or..... I could get on disability for my trigger finger.

I have no control over either action though.

 

[NoDrama]

Nobody said that the "others" who helped a business with such a thing as a road should not have or didn't get paid for their effort. The point is that we all stand on our infrastructure. pre 1950's folk had roads, just not freeways. They had the postal system by the way, and that postal system that runs at a loss has contributed to about every business in America - that government run disaster that every business still uses.

The post Office isn't run by the US Government. It is an independent agency, kind of like the Federal Reserve.

 

[UncleBuck]

i'd like to take credit for building my own greenhouse, but the lumber was probably harvested from federally protected lands, replanted in accordance with state replanting laws so the next generation can have lumber, traveled to the mill on roads our taxes pay for, ditto to the store on roads our taxes pay for, and purchased by me with money from the EITC.

so i have a lot of people to thank for the greenhouse that "i built".

 

[NoDrama]

There is not one word in the Constitution of the United States about Corporations, they are afforded no rights and no recognition as citizens. That a corporation is composed of people does not make it a person. An organization is a collection of individuals and not an individual itself. Organizations have different needs, values, understandings and actions. Coroporations do not value individual freedoms, health, interaction, all the things that true people value and so they should not be counted among citizens.

In the legal sense ( which is all that really matters) a corporation is a person. You are a person too, but not all people are persons. Most are, but not all, there are freemen who have no claim to a person and are outside the jurisdiction of most laws.

 

[beenthere]

They are business entities.

If a corporation is a person why isn't Exxon and BP in prison?

If you think the definition is literal, you need some educating.

 

[ginwilly]

USPS is a separate entity of the government that is in the constitution. It was profitable at one time but the postmaster general has been consistently blocked when he presents cost cutting measures that would make it profitable again. It's quite sad really how little business sense our elected leaders have.