Care Giver..or Drug Dealer?

skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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acting in your role as a "citizen" you have the right to obey government acts/ordinances you have no other rights than this
as a sovereign state/individual you have the rights of natural or common law theoretically although this remedy needs to be enforced in civil courts by individuals
government will still attempt to impose acts on you as a citizen until you rebut the presumption that you are their property or ward of state , not the easiest of things to do or be bothered with, but some folk are getting there .. sadly most folk are totally blind to the system of rulers and in fact enjoy being slaves :(

peace :)
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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For the most part i have always thought that medical users give, recreational users a bad name
medical users are kind of like the scabs that crossed the picket line in the 1970s during the strikes
they do deals with the government inorder to get what they think is freedom .. when it is not a real freedom as their federal law still prohibits it

at the expense of turning on other regular people/smokers and growers that are not part of their medical community (recreational smokers/growers) they become the stooges of the government, which makes them dangerous, as they are likely to inform on folk to keep their own benefits and government deals

for those that are very ill and not just back pain, ofcourse they are the exception, but its very well known its a totaly fake industry medical growers and users for the most part are recreational users that have sold their soul for a glimpse of freedom (scabs)

the total rip off prices that bud is sold for at the dispensaries too for a little bud that fits in a pill bottle , lol
its a total rip off industry from top to bottom with this fake care giving status is cringe worthy to be honest, $50 for an 1/8th of bottom popcorn bud in a pill bottle to a guy in a wheelchair, that sure is care giving lol
legally rip off cripples i like it

peace
 
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bob harris

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skunkd0c said:
For the most part i have always thought that medical users give, recreational users a bad name
medical users are kind of like the scabs that crossed the picket line in the 1970s during the strikes
they do deals with the government inorder to get what they think is freedom .. when it is not a real freedom as their federal law still prohibits it

at the expense of turning on other regular people/smokers and growers that are not part of their medical community (recreational smokers/growers) they become the stooges of the government, which makes them dangerous, as they are likely to inform on folk to keep their own benefits and government deals

for those that are very ill and not just back pain, ofcourse they are the exception, but its very well known its a totaly fake industry medical growers and users for the most part are recreational users that have sold their soul for a glimpse of freedom (scabs)

the total rip off prices that bud is sold for at the dispensaries too for a little bud that fits in a pill bottle , lol
its a total rip off industry from top to bottom with this fake care giving status is cringe worthy to be honest, $50 for an 1/8th of bottom popcorn bud in a pill bottle to a guy in a wheelchair, that sure is care giving lol
legally rip off cripples i like it

peace
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Yup your pretty close with your description of most caregivers.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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welshsmoker said:
a national health service mate. we dont need insurance or shit to see a doc here the state pays for everyone to have their scripts, we grow and sell green mj blow whatever,( MEDS MY ARSE)
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Haha! Love the avatar. I have a french lop that loves marijuana leaves as well!
 
CharlieBud

CharlieBud

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bob harris said:
Really? Black people would argue that..seems they were only given any rights less than 40 years ago. Women might have a problem with that too..we didn't let them vote till when? Late 20's early30's?
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Nope, their Rights were acknowledged in law. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 made it illegal to interfere with the exercise of rights, it did not "grant rights". Prior to that their unalienable rights were being abridged. Again, talking US Constitution here, not Countries who grant Rights to their citizens by the Government. We just forget what our forefathers came here to do.
 
Perfextionist420

Perfextionist420

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@OP

Don't be a communist, capitalism is the way of the world, the man is taking a federal risk to provide medicine and prison aint no joke. If his patients aren't happy they can get a new caregiver, if the man wants to live off growing he should be allowed. If your good at something never do it for free.

Be happy paying your 200 - 250 an oz, I don't think you realize how spoiled you are, I still every once in a while run into 400 dollar ounces in philly.
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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to show the intent, THIS CG he is referring to (Me Myself and I) currently has one assigned Pt, and my 2nd ones paperwork/card should be here any day along with my renewal.

I currently take care of m one pt out of my own plant count. But with the addition of a 2nd patient, which will be using Oil more than anything, in Medibles and an Omicron will likely require me to add a couple plants from now on to the cycle so i may have to setup to harvest 2 to 4 a month for now. Once the new grow room is finished, things will get much easier, and I shoudl perhaps be able to help a few more needy local patients before I ll need to find my 3rd patient.
 
Beagle

Beagle

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108oz - 30oz(2.5oz x 6 for the patients, 2.5oz x 6 for the caregiver to resupply the patient between harvests) = 78oz over your legal weight limit....Now your patients would have to take possession of their 2.5oz immediately when the meds are dry enough to burn for that scenario to work.

Seems like these caregivers are breaking the law. We've already seen court cases in the last few years where someone over their weight limit was denied a medical defense.

So what's the problem?
 
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purklize

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Don't be a communist, capitalism is the way of the world, the man is taking a federal risk to provide medicine and prison aint no joke.
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Communists would recognize the right of labor to be paid, don't throw around such silly misinformation... :P
 
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purklize

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bob harris, you fail to account for problems that arise with growing. You're just giving a best case scenario. In reality people end up battling pests, which become exponentially harder to deal with when you have more plants, etc. Let me assure you when you are fighting a bad pest like root aphids you can easily spend 40 hours a week on it with just 12 plants.
 
Pipe Dream

Pipe Dream

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How does this differ from the pharmaceutical industry? I mean they sell pills to just anyone with a prescription and they aren't cheap. I'm sure they make a very comfortable salary doing what they do too. There shouldn't be a problem in getting paid for a hobby. Customers/patients should have a right to choose who they deal with and what's fair to them. A free oz every month and an additional oz for $200 isn't a bad deal at all and much better than what you would get at a dispensary(more overhead=higher prices). Now I know around my neck of the woods it is illegal to sell to anyone who isn't your patient, but I don't find anything morally wrong with it personally.
 
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hic

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How does this differ from the pharmaceutical industry? You ask.

We chose to be a caregiver to give care. They choose to be a pharmacy for profit. Do you think that there would be a pharmacy that gave care for free...no

We pay for our hobbies like buying baseball cards, or knitting or video gaming. I have never made money off video games that I play. Caregiving is for people that grow dope for a hobby not a job. That is a diffrence also from pharmacy life. You all act as if it were a sin to lose money on helping the world. For shame for shame it tis to lose a few bucks is it not?

I could rattle the walls of all that wish to ask for the truth. But the truth hurts so the truth only brings anger so I know you do not want the truths.

I grow for hobby and in the house of gods growers I will sin and say I do not give a fuck if I lose money. I just am not willing to lose alot of it.lol.

Many of you lie to yourselves so much you believe what the hell is coming out of your mouths. I wish more of you would find jobs like your daddies did and give up this nonsense.
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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Beagle said:
108oz - 30oz(2.5oz x 6 for the patients, 2.5oz x 6 for the caregiver to resupply the patient between harvests) = 78oz over your legal weight limit....Now your patients would have to take possession of their 2.5oz immediately when the meds are dry enough to burn for that scenario to work.

Seems like these caregivers are breaking the law. We've already seen court cases in the last few years where someone over their weight limit was denied a medical defense.

So what's the problem?
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that is providing yield from each plant is good. if i can do it with one plant great, but it will need 2 at least. I grow in a semi perpetual, not a in/out/cycle. Only try to have available what will be needed with minimal overage.

the Oil Patient will likely need about 2 O a week to make enough oil for a one week supply of Meds. 1 on make maybe 5 to 7 grams of oil, and 2 grams of oil a day per dose would requrie 14 grams of oil per week, and 62 grams of oil per 4 weeks.

If i can get 8 oz a plant dandy, one or 2 will do fine. but I doubt I ll be growing 8 oz finished plants. thus expect to have to run 3 or so to get the required amount needed. Guess we will see.
 
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