Care Giver..or Drug Dealer?

fattiemcnuggins

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hit me up with your # and I will have all the caregivers report their profits and # of hours to you. if you approve then they can keep growing. if you don't approve well i guess they should be arrested and aren't any good at growing.
 

purklize

Active Member
Bob, if growing is so easy, why don't you do more than a 12 plant grow? Why don't you help others who are being ravaged by the evil greedy caregivers?

How much do you spend a month supporting your lifestyle? If you already own your house, factor in the average cost of the mortgage through the purchase date through now, per month.

Start writing down your house spent on the plants. Calculate the number of hours of work needed to produce an ounce, and get back to us on that. Don't just go off your memory, use hard facts please.
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
Why can't we be both? In the eyes of the gov I will always be a drug dealer. To the S4 lady that just got to hav a good Easter. And did not pay a dime to a total stranger,we will always be caregivers.

Put on my 'drug dealer' hat? Price goes up.
'Caregiver' hat price goes down.

We are all different. Strange trogs who live in cellars. Flower children,peacing n Lovin. Gangsters , and baby G's just a ballin.

We do not chose this War, we are just the victims.
 

Cory and trevor

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cory you sound like you are confused. You were not asked to be a caregiver were you? you forced it upon yourself I take it as you are another gift from god to the sick correct.
nope, I tried to help others and others got greedy as shit and started talking about their plants....which they hadn't even seen so I cut the lot of them fucks off. I just hate dicks like you talking all this shit-don't talk assbag do. I did and got burned and now I listen to the shit wads like yourself and bob and the others beat their dead horse and piss and moan and conjecture what everyone else makes selling pot while they cry they don't make enough to pay for goods and services so people who can grow ought to jsut give them pot begotten off their hard work and effort for no other reason then smile on their little cheap skate face. say what you will be everyone on the planet can grow pot so if you ask someon else you should pay. I have seen blind men run marathons legless dude compete in triathlon and a fucking quadrapalegic climb everest so anyone and I mean anyone who says they can't is a fucking liar or a lazy bitch. both those deserve to be the victim of price gouging. Fucker.
 

Cory and trevor

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Its cute how you pretend its legal and the Federal government doesn't exist.
I like the way you think, careful with this bunch they will get you so pissed with their fucked up logic you get to yelling and tripping out and then BANG, it looks like a bunch of fools arguing and they can't tell you and I from the bobs and dicks and hics in the group. it is cute though. I like how his math always seems to equal profiteer and being the only cat with the answer he doesn't have 5 patients himself. WTF is worse man, a profiteer thant makes meds available or this straight up diety of cultivation only doing it for himself? Bob you're so greedy only your weed works why can't we all share in your endless bounty?
 

Timmahh

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  • Yes, the patients would be better off. The profiteer CG's are WHY the law is being tightened.​



thats funny, 3 weeks ago, it was the grey areas then 2 weeks ago it was all the fakers with pain, and last week is was all the people that are not inline with Bull Schuittes opine, and this week is the greedy caregivers. poor bob, lost in the government kool-aid, only because he is making it.
 

bob harris

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Bob, if growing is so easy, why don't you do more than a 12 plant grow? Why don't you help others who are being ravaged by the evil greedy caregivers?

How much do you spend a month supporting your lifestyle? If you already own your house, factor in the average cost of the mortgage through the purchase date through now, per month.

Start writing down your house spent on the plants. Calculate the number of hours of work needed to produce an ounce, and get back to us on that. Don't just go off your memory, use hard facts please.
I don't need more than 12 plants to help others. And I don't want a cg card. I'm disabled, my income is fixed. I don't have my condo paid off..just bought it. I have 2 older kids at home, only one has a job, and I support all of us on less than $1700 an month take home.

Not rich, no savings....battled back from broke 6 years or so ago after I couldn't work any more.

With my garden in max produce mode (vegged larger b4 flower) Which it isn't right now, I can produce an oz with 3.1 hrs. My electric is high..I run 2200 watts total between veg and flower, have ac, humidifier, dehumidifier co2 all the "stuff" about $500 per grow (2 months) lower in the winter, higher in the summer. I grow in soil, organics, no expensive nutrient program...don't have to ph ANYTHING, don't have to mix anything (but soil) maybe $100 a grow for soil, nutes, and the occasional new bulb.

In reved up mode, cannabis cost me approx $50 an oz to produce...add in 30 for my labor...about 80 per to produce. Before p2p, when I could legally help other patients without being a cg, I never accepted more than $125 per oz..often less....and could easily come out with free meds for myself, and $400 a month for my "efforts".

That's a nice, reasonable profit. If you'd like that all expressed as labor, I made about 14.75 per hour.
If I had accepted 200 per oz..that hourly rate would be..$62.50...and that would be profiteering.

If I had accepted $250 per oz, as it seems many cg's feel their "efforts" are worth, the hourly rate would be $95.70..and that is an absolutely ridiculous wage for the minimal skill involved. That's not a care giver, thats a lazy fuck making money off sick people..or a drug dealer..you pick.


In a 72 plant grow my costs per oz would drop significantly. Unless i was growing all sativas, I'd have no where near 6 times the light. (I run 75 watts per sq ft, not many cg's running that much light per ft.) Soil, nutrients, everything is less expensive in bulk. And labor time doesn't get 6 times more either, maybe 4 times the labor..but there is an economy of scale in labor too. So actually, that "hourly" rate as a cg would go up...over $100.00 an hour at $2.50 per oz.
 

bob harris

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Great Point, and the drum i have been beating. but bob would rather you all stay complacently nowhere. Interesting don't you think?
Get involved with all the civil rights you'd like. Just leave medical cannabis alone. What "civil" right did medical cannabis give you, other than the ability to grow your own for meds, or be a care giver to "help" other people? It didn't give anyone the right to create a high paid gouger opportunity.
 

FatMarty

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Well shit Bob - I run 80 watts/sq. ft. and I never get more than 2 1/2 ounces per harvest.
I guess I better up my game if I'm going to hang in this club.
 

Timmahh

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Get involved with all the civil rights you'd like. Just leave medical cannabis alone. What "civil" right did medical cannabis give you, other than the ability to grow your own for meds, or be a care giver to "help" other people? It didn't give anyone the right to create a high paid gouger opportunity.

There you go speaking like a government mule. You're showing your true colors again bob.

You know as well as I do, cannabis gives No one our civil rights. As a government kool aid mixer you should.
Our Civil Rights are unalienable via our birth in this United States of America, and in our Faith in God. And those Rights to pursue Freedom, Liberty and Happiness, include my right to use cannabis, your son's right be a homosexual, and your right to work for the government assfucking Citizens Civil Rights.

Its a great system. You can try bob, but you cant have it. just like you cant have my gun, or my thoughts, or my body, or my cannabis.
 

bob harris

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thats funny, 3 weeks ago, it was the grey areas then 2 weeks ago it was all the fakers with pain, and last week is was all the people that are not inline with Bull Schuittes opine, and this week is the greedy caregivers. poor bob, lost in the government kool-aid, only because he is making it.
That's so funny...I'm not making government kool-aid. I am smart enough to tell you how it's going to come out ..while you cry like a babby for a bottle. You just chronologically, listed all the things I've had right..while you whined an alternate position. Then when they happen, it can't be that I may just know more about what IS happening than you.

You have changed you position on everything in the last couple weeks..and are now trying to sell that these were your positions all along.

You went from Joe is the best man for med cannabis ever,to fuck, I had to get rid of Joe myself, in like 2 days. You keep telling us you will die for your cause..your cause died with MMMA. Why you still alive..oh yea, you sold out you buddies.

And your all for negotiating for better worded bills now, after bashing me wildly when I suggested people do so before they passed.

A couple weeks ago, King and Agro and Bylsma and the rest were all victims...now you're saying that we haven't always picked the best examples of someone that was screwed....

I am usually about 2 weeks ahead of you in my arguments...but somehow, you always had the idea first....

so long as your upset with me, I must be thinking right...because you Have severe issues with your thinking.
 

CharlieBud

Active Member
Get involved with all the civil rights you'd like. Just leave medical cannabis alone. What "civil" right did medical cannabis give you, other than the ability to grow your own for meds, or be a care giver to "help" other people? It didn't give anyone the right to create a high paid gouger opportunity.
In this Country Rights are not "given" they are already there. The issue is the laws passed abridging those rights, in conflict with the limits imposed on the Federal government by the Constitution.
 

bob harris

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Well shit Bob - I run 80 watts/sq. ft. and I never get more than 2 1/2 ounces per harvest.
I guess I better up my game if I'm going to hang in this club.
You must stagger your plants like I do...one out...one in..one out..one in...about a week and a half apart. Works really well to stay in wieght and count. Plus, you can almost always help people..not just a bunch of people all at once, then no one for 2 months while you wait for your next crop.......First logical statement I've heard from you...and 2.5 oz per plant isn't too bad...just right actuually for a self grower, that wants to help people too.

Now, just keep that grow room door locked and your all set.
 

bob harris

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In this Country Rights are not "given" they are already there. The issue is the laws passed abridging those rights, in conflict with the limits imposed on the Federal government by the Constitution.
Really? Black people would argue that..seems they were only given any rights less than 40 years ago. Women might have a problem with that too..we didn't let them vote till when? Late 20's early30's?
 

bob harris

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There you go speaking like a government mule. You're showing your true colors again bob.

You know as well as I do, cannabis gives No one our civil rights. As a government kool aid mixer you should.
Our Civil Rights are unalienable via our birth in this United States of America, and in our Faith in God. And those Rights to pursue Freedom, Liberty and Happiness, include my right to use cannabis, your son's right be a homosexual, and your right to work for the government assfucking Citizens Civil Rights.

Its a great system. You can try bob, but you cant have it. just like you cant have my gun, or my thoughts, or my body, or my cannabis.
Our rights were paid for in blood....and were never intended to allow people to do "anything they want" as you seem to define your rights.

Yes, you have the right to pursue happiness..not the right to do whatever it is that makes you happy. You feel that your rights supersede everyone elses. You live in a period of time of relative ease in the United States, and have no appreciation for that.

You probably don't earn enough to actually pay taxes, yet you'll complain about those too....but you want the infrastructure rebuilt..you want to use roads. You want Health Care, you want alot of things, for someone that contributes nothing.

I'm not suggesting that I've had it bad, as you'll try and spin it, I didn't have to go to Viet Nam...and Iv'e paid my share of taxes. I feel I've gotten off cheap for the privileged of living in the United States....I live in the first generation of people where all young men didn't have to go to war. Before my generation, almost all fit men went to war....and Millions died to create this umbrella of comfort under which you live.

You are an ungrateful pig, you bash a Government that provides you with more than any government in the world.
 

welshsmoker

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Our rights were paid for in blood....and were never intended to allow people to do "anything they want" as you seem to define your rights.

Yes, you have the right to pursue happiness..not the right to do whatever it is that makes you happy. You feel that your rights supersede everyone elses. You live in a period of time of relative ease in the United States, and have no appreciation for that.

You probably don't earn enough to actually pay taxes, yet you'll complain about those too....but you want the infrastructure rebuilt..you want to use roads. You want Health Care, you want alot of things, for someone that contributes nothing.

I'm not suggesting that I've had it bad, as you'll try and spin it, I didn't have to go to Viet Nam...and Iv'e paid my share of taxes. I feel I've gotten off cheap for the privileged of living in the United States....I live in the first generation of people where all young men didn't have to go to war. Before my generation, almost all fit men went to war....and Millions died to create this umbrella of comfort under which you live.

You are an ungrateful pig, you bash a Government that provides you with more than any government in the world.
you got the NHS then bob? no i think not.
 

welshsmoker

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a national health service mate. we dont need insurance or shit to see a doc here the state pays for everyone to have their scripts, we grow and sell green mj blow whatever,( MEDS MY ARSE)
 
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