LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

[Swiftowl11]

Question, I read through some of this post. Im new to T5, use to HPS and LED. I want to set-up a strictly veg tent. I want to use T5, but would 8 4ft 6500k t5ho bulbs or 4 10000k t5ho, 4 actinic 460nm t5ho bulbs, be better for ONLY VEGGING.

Which is better for vegging.

 

[PetFlora]

Question, I read through some of this post. Im new to T5, use to HPS and LED. I want to set-up a strictly veg tent. I want to use T5, but would 8 4ft 6500k t5ho bulbs or 4 10000k t5ho, 4 actinic 460nm t5ho bulbs, be better for ONLY VEGGING.

Which is better for vegging.

Drop a divider between the 8 bulbs and try both. Keep us posted

 

[BlueB]

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She looks healthy and happy. Older leaves have some deficiency, but all newer leaves are perfect. When I got her she had just been watered- soaked more like it. It was 8 days before I watered as the soil meter reading remained very wet


Feeding her DM Gold + DM Potash+ @ ~ 750ppm

EDIT: I have no idea what type or wattage of bulb she was under, but when I got her she stunk up the room. That stopped after 4-5 days. Looking for ideas why.

You sure you don't have thrips? Do you use way more fertilizer than neccessary?

 

[BlueB]

I have all cheap Radiion fixtures, and had one go out in an 8 bulb and one in a 4 bulb... separate fixtures. And they're the ONLY bulbs Ive had go out.

The theory is that its the glue on the end caps, which would explain why the ones that work, work well...and the ones that dont, dont.

Maybe they are getting rattled around more than necessary in transit? UPS does like to play kickball with the packages ya know?

Also, if you twist them out when hot, the seal can break, as it apparently did on one of mine

They shouldn't get hot, you need a fan on them T5's to keep em cool. You know on those expensive ATI fixtures they come with cooling fans built in. Those would be a real nice fixture to get. You are talkin an extra $1k however for those.

 

[Calrt]

Maybe they are getting rattled around more than necessary in transit? UPS does like to play kickball with the packages ya know?


They shouldn't get hot, you need a fan on them T5's to keep em cool. You know on those expensive ATI fixtures they come with cooling fans built in. Those would be a real nice fixture to get. You are talkin an extra $1k however for those.

I have removed them lots of times "hot" I have also noticed the Red Suns are hotter then the others. Maybe the cheaper fixtures are harder to rotate in and out? Just a thought.....

 

[Undercover Cop]

I got my red suns from Hello lights. I wander if they will refund me?

Let me know if they do, Thats where I have 4 coming from now. Did they ever send you a tracking number when you first ordered? I havent got anything from them since Saturday when I ordered, except the paypal reciept


oh and btw, the RS's that failed on me had never been removed after being installed the first time, my radiion fixtures have easy slip on end caps so there is no rotating to install or remove. The two that failed had simply been placed in their spots and had the plastic cap slipped onto the end. So if the glue failed it was not due to anything I did... UPS bent my last shipping tube with fluoro's in half so yeah they suck (I used to work for em... yeah they suck, but all shippers suck ass IMO) but I got a total of 6 tubes in that shipment and the rest were ok. I kinda think that it is a prob with quality mfg at UVL, and if your tube went out it was prob destined to die from birth. But Im a sucker and bought 4 more.... we'll see

 

[Undercover Cop]

Ohiogrown , I ant never got 6 ounces of one plant . Even with HID.

Damn you must be just starting out then lol , theres a dude here that claimed a few posts back "the one plant I had flowered got a LB off of it" ... lol we must be doing something wrong then if we're not pulling down "pounds" per plant

 

[falcon223]

This is the email I got back form Hellolighls.
Hello
Thank you for contacting us. If you'd like to try something else we can send them out to you today along with a prepaid shipping label that you can use to send the Red Sun bulbs back to us.
If you'd like to send them back for a refund, I can email you a prepaid shipping label that you can use to send them back, and once we receive the bulbs we'll issue a refund.
Dan

I tried to make another order today and got some runaround.

Ohio, I would like to know what you are useing for soil, and ferts, Thanks.

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[falcon223]

Yea Im an old fart.

 

[BlueB]

Damn you must be just starting out then lol , theres a dude here that claimed a few posts back "the one plant I had flowered got a LB off of it" ... lol we must be doing something wrong then if we're not pulling down "pounds" per plant

Holy crap!!!!!!! A pound off of only 1 plant under a T5???? I think I would have to see that to believe, I really doubt that it's even possible unless you were using a VHO fixture. Are you sure you weren't measuring in ounce????

 

[Undercover Cop]

No man, read carefully... I was quoting a dude here that claimed HE pulled a pound off a plant... and that dude was YOU. post #2333

Granted its hard to tell sarcasm through print, but I dont think many would confuse a one ounce plant for a one pound plant.

 

[asdmo]

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/grd/2816492446.html
$20 bucks a fxiture should i pick some up and go t5 crazy up in my tents?

 

[Beagle]

How long was the pound yielding plant vegged for?

 

[Undercover Cop]

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/grd/2816492446.html
$20 bucks a fxiture should i pick some up and go t5 crazy up in my tents?

Damn thats a fuckin awesome deal, I scoped a few industrial lighting companies for High Bay t5 and HID fixtures and some would work pretty well. Those look perfect, I cant tell if they're HO 54w or NO 40w? I dont know what kinda selection they have in t5 NO bulbs, (I know my local petco only sells NO t5's so they do exist) Do they come with bulbs too? I'd get 4 -6 of em and go nuts dude!

 

[falcon223]

Some buddy is scratching there head rite now.

 

[asdmo]

dude UC theres soo much stuff on craigslist. check this one out:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/for/2814038213.html
6 bulbs for 21 bucks! im going to email both these guys right now!

 

[falcon223]

Let see was that a LB, or OZ. And are those HO, or not.

 

[BlueB]

No man, read carefully... I was quoting a dude here that claimed HE pulled a pound off a plant... and that dude was YOU. post #2333

Granted its hard to tell sarcasm through print, but I dont think many would confuse a one ounce plant for a one pound plant.

Ahhhhhh, only problem is, I'm not a dude!!!! That plant I harvested wasn't finished under T5 lighting though. If you would read carefully you would have seen that it was under a sodium light. And yeah, it was almost a LB! 11 oz. so roughly 3/4 LB!! Close. Weird, didn't you see the picture, posted about 2 pictures of them juicy flower?? There were roughly 7, 1 ounce colas on it next to a juice bottle for size. Can't you see.........dude??
This is the second time that you have tried to start shit with me for no reason whatsoever. Seriously, what's your deal??

I would also like to add that even though the 4ft T5 bulbs emit 54 watts or whatever of light, they are not emitting from a single point light source like HPS bulbs do. Therefore the intensity is going to be much much less. The light is spread out across a 4ft area. Moving the plants closer to the T5s will make up for the lack of intensity. I just flipped one of my plants under 2 red sun, 2 fiji, 4 flora sun to 12/12. Will see how the buds compare to my monsters under the HPS. Unfortunately all my monster buds got pollenated. The cutting I got must have been a mutant. I'm not sure what they are doing over seas with these strains, but it sure has been creating a lot of hermies. I'm off to go search for a cutting that is pure 100% female. No more of this mutant hermie trash. It's possible the HPS had something to do with the pollenation so if it happens under the T5 I know that it was just a trashy cut. I'm pretty down about it because the one plant I had flowered got a LB off of it. Now it is riddled with tiny hard seed crap.

Here is the post that you were quoting supposedly right? #2333, do you read well? I referred to HPS more than enough that if you actually read you would see that this monster plant was under a sodium light. Hmmmm, yeah, thought so. Nice try anyway. Gotta love the internet!
Hey MPP chime in here hommie!!!!

Let see was that a LB, or OZ. And are those HO, or not.

READ MAN READ

 

[BlueB]

How long was the pound yielding plant vegged for?

I think I had it going for about 2 months before flipping to 12/12. Had it real nice and bonzai'd to a bush so that it had all those colas, but they got really heavy and tipped over towards flush. Wasn't able to get a good flush in. On the positive side, I found out that it didn't get seeded after all. The things I thought were seeds were actually just the ovules that hadn't been pollenated yet. After that I realized that absolutely every female plant has these ovules and they are pretty much seeds that haven't gotten big yet. The bigger the plant/buds the bigger they are and they really looked like immature seeds at the time. Now that it's all dried they pretty much disappeared and are unnoticeable. I looked at some other dried bud I had laying around and the calyx's were filled with them also. Learn somethin new every day anyway.

 

[asdmo]

I think I had it going for about 2 months before flipping to 12/12. Had it real nice and bonzai'd to a bush so that it had all those colas, but they got really heavy and tipped over towards flush. Wasn't able to get a good flush in. On the positive side, I found out that it didn't get seeded after all. The things I thought were seeds were actually just the ovules that hadn't been pollenated yet. After that I realized that absolutely every female plant has these ovules and they are pretty much seeds that haven't gotten big yet. The bigger the plant/buds the bigger they are and they really looked like immature seeds at the time. Now that it's all dried they pretty much disappeared and are unnoticeable. I looked at some other dried bud I had laying around and the calyx's were filled with them also. Learn somethin new every day anyway.

Did those "seeds" look like bananas?