Check these guys out for the Fiji and UVL bulbs. Good customer service and fast shipping unlike Aquarium Specialties.
LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow
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Lucius Vorenus
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who are you talking about?
Undercover Cop
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They may not have the best prices, but a good selection http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/
damn guess I missed the previous posts lol. Petmountain.com has WavePoints at a good price, fast shipping to the western US
Undercover Cop
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I now have em vegging under the 8 bulb, but up until yesterday they were only under the 4 bulb w 2 6500k's and 1ea Blue Wave & Reef Wave... I didnt get any red suns until yesterday
vegged under top fixture only with this blend -->
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Undercover Cop
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At first I got the two 4 bulbs for $100 ea. The ebay listing showed them as being used w slight wear. The only sign of any use is subtle dents/marks on the reflector... just windex the reflector when you change the bulbs and they're fine. Ive had no problems at all, and had no prob dropping $150 for the 8 bulb. After I got the first two and then purchased bloom bulbs separately, I found other fixtures being sold with all bloom or 50/50 bloom/6500k... then I found the same fixtures marketed as aquarium lights being sold with blends of 10000k/460actinic. The aquarium models are available new and with optional timers that may allow you to set different on off times for specific bulbs, which may be nice if you want to hit some FarRed/IR before and after the main lights to simulate natural dawn/dusk just like aquarists do when lighting corals.
I think the bad boys are wider overall, my 4 bulbs are 13" wide and the 8 bulb is 17" wide.
I saw the hydrofarms and even searched out commercial lighting mfg's for high bay fixtures, but went with the radiions from ebay again because they have a nice compact design, everything is self contained. 4 bulbs can daisy chain. 8 bulbs cant, but do have multiple switches.
$70 for 4x24" $100 for 4x48" $125 for 6x48" $150 for 8x48" and I think I might have seen some 12 or 16 bulb fixtures... free shipping.
Undercover Cop
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anyone have a SPD chart for 10000k bulbs? Im using 2 6500k's just to have a bit of green in the blend (Ive read that chlorophyll uses the red/blue light with more efficiency in the presence of green light... some LED panels come with a ratio of something like 12red/4blue/1green) so I want a little green from those bulbs but I cant find a spd for 10k's to compare the spikes between 10k's and 6.5k's
hyroot
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check out these bulbs i might grab the actinics and maybe the 10000k for veg.
http://coralifeproducts.com/product/lamps/
it would not let me save the or copy the spd charts. click on the button for each light and it will show you.
they sell them at petco for 15.99
http://coralifeproducts.com/product/lamps/
it would not let me save the or copy the spd charts. click on the button for each light and it will show you.
they sell them at petco for 15.99
Undercover Cop
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HOLY SHIT those red ones look like the holy grail of 630nm and 660nm ish spikes, w a pretty wide band from blue through green. I gotta do some research and try to find a bigger SPD graph, but those could replace red suns for cheaper????
edit, damn I was wrong, the chart I found in google images is not even close to the graph the pops up when you hover over the colormax bulb. Google images for Coralife colormax shows a pink hued bulb like the WavePoint RedWaves with this chart ...
The graph their website shows looks like tits, nice wide red swatch... this chart looks like balls
PetFlora
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The 6500 looks vg, too. It has a bit more red, which should not hurt, if they happen to be out of the 10K when you need one
milfblaster
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They might stretch less if you leave the veg bulbs in for the first few weeks of 12/12. That would be an interesting experiment.
Some people feed them bushmaster. I like the scrog technique to keep them short.
Redoctober
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Interesting idea, I do that with nutrients; feed em veg formula for first week or 2 of flower. I guess we'll have to test the veg bulb theory to see if it prevents stretch. I just hope that having the extra blue in there for initial phase doesn't delay flowering and flower formation.
AltarNation
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Sup guys... just wanted to let y'all know I should have some harvest results for you soon. Only did a partial because the lower buds were still less developed, but I feel really good about it... seemed like a lot of quality smoke to my amateur eyes. :0]
I am still not convinced I waited til full development... but the hairs were receding, buds were getting hard... seemed close enough. And I didn't want to painstakingly track each of seven bagseed plants individually, so whatever I get I get. Also I think I was still suffering a cal/mag issue as I was starting to get brown leaves shriveling up in the buds themselves... decided it was better to just chop 'em.
Next round I will definitely be adding lime a lot sooner... and in the future I will be mixing it in up front...
I am still not convinced I waited til full development... but the hairs were receding, buds were getting hard... seemed close enough. And I didn't want to painstakingly track each of seven bagseed plants individually, so whatever I get I get. Also I think I was still suffering a cal/mag issue as I was starting to get brown leaves shriveling up in the buds themselves... decided it was better to just chop 'em.
Next round I will definitely be adding lime a lot sooner... and in the future I will be mixing it in up front...
UnderCurrentDWC
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Started a new batch today this will be the first time I'll be cloning from the start with the par bulbs. I'll compare average time of root onset compared to Mh light.
My first flowering with these lights didn't turn out great as far as yield but I just sampled a small nug tonight and MY GOD is it potent!
I'll be doing a solo cup Uc grow and will continue to flower using this light hoping for a greater yield.
My first flowering with these lights didn't turn out great as far as yield but I just sampled a small nug tonight and MY GOD is it potent!
I'll be doing a solo cup Uc grow and will continue to flower using this light hoping for a greater yield.
hyroot
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Using veg bulbs to prevent stretching is pointless. The flower bulbs do not cause stretching. The first week or 2 the plant still grows taller producing new nodes and foliage. Thats not stretching. If yours are stretching then either your light is too far away or you are using the wrong bulbs or you haven't ever used them and you dont know what you re talking about. That is not directed at anyone. Just a generalization.
hyroot
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Sounds like you were over feeding them. They can lock up from that. I could tell more from a pic. Too much phos will cause browning leaves. If you see the tips turning a reddish brown then cut back on nutes. You should track them seperatley. They each need different regiments. If you go by the directions on the bottle, full strength is actually 20% less than what it says because you are using differnt things in conjuction with each other. When I started brewing teas. It took me almost a month to figure out proper regiments for each of my strains. Also they can all be done at different times. My rule of thumb is when they look done to your own eyes (no scope) give them another week. Or use a scope. I like chopping when at least half the trichomes are amber. If you dont have access toba scope. Experiment. Chop at different times and see what you like more. Your next batch will usually be better thatn the one before. Even experienced growers have a learning curve when a new strain is introduced into the garden.. Hope my ramblings help in some way.
organicbynature
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Did you talk about your first PAR harvest already or are you just getting to that now?
I want to know more!
Glad it's awesome.
