20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction
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Jozikins
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Last round with the bubble bags I used 160 micron and that gave great results, it all depends on how much you shake it. Next round I am going to use 73, I'll lose a lot of yield but hopefully it is nothing but the very best. I would like to use a 90 micron but I don't have one. Apparently there is a place that manufactures bubble bags just down the hill from me, so I'm going to go in there like a big shot and try and make some friends. Lol.
Last time I used the 160 it was in a very small batch for a friend, we put only one ounce into the 160 bag and shook for no longer than 10-15 minutes total combined. If not less. And the kief was so fucking pure and golden it molded together like wax. I've never seen kief of such high quality, which is why I'm excited to see what difference besides yield 73 or 90 will give me.
Kitty you can dry bubble hash slow or fast, it's all up to you. But you want to get 90% of it dry as fast as possible, that shit will mold on you, you do not want to jar it wet. But if someone has reasoning for curing it really slow (like I have been out of paranoia... sometimes, lol) and has more experience on the subject than me, I would love to know why.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/jyermum-327001.htmlJyermum LOL, that is actually the company down the hill from me I was just talking about, Aqua Lab Technologies.
Last time I used the 160 it was in a very small batch for a friend, we put only one ounce into the 160 bag and shook for no longer than 10-15 minutes total combined. If not less. And the kief was so fucking pure and golden it molded together like wax. I've never seen kief of such high quality, which is why I'm excited to see what difference besides yield 73 or 90 will give me.
Kitty you can dry bubble hash slow or fast, it's all up to you. But you want to get 90% of it dry as fast as possible, that shit will mold on you, you do not want to jar it wet. But if someone has reasoning for curing it really slow (like I have been out of paranoia... sometimes, lol) and has more experience on the subject than me, I would love to know why.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/jyermum-327001.htmlJyermum LOL, that is actually the company down the hill from me I was just talking about, Aqua Lab Technologies.
rzza
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dry or bubble it doesnt matter, the whole point is getting the correct size screen depending on strain and size of glandular heads. my point about bubble hash and screen size vs glandular heads will also go for dry sifting.
mellokitty
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*ehem*
no infringing on my "hired naked gun" maintenance team idea, please. does it matter that i'm a team of one for now? (sometimes 2, but you prolly don't wanna see him rock a bikini.)
in bc, there is an entire subculture/mini-economy based on housewives who trim (and it's pretty much an accepted fact that women are preferable for the longhaul jobs). it's to a lesser degree now, and especially with the advent of machines like the spinpro and trimpro it's a lot harder to make an actual living at it these days, but a decade ago i knew an army of children who were being raised by singlemoms whose main income was from trimming.
that said, i've always wanted to see california... *nudge nudge*
mellokitty
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i can't laugh at this. you can't imagine how common it is for male bosses to FOR SERIOUS try to pull shit like this, "because women have nimble fingers."
TheLastWood
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Spread em scumbag!
mellokitty
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is wayne brady gonna have to go get a union rep?
rzza
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i didnt think of it like that im not a perv or anything just thought that was funny ....i hear ya tho, good point
mellokitty
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i know right? fuckin pervy bosses, ruining it for everyone....i didnt think of it like that im not a perv or anything just thought that was funny ....i hear ya tho, good point
you should hear the kind of shit cg pulled on his trimmer.... actually went and married her... WHAT a deviant
collective gardener
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i know right? fuckin pervy bosses, ruining it for everyone....
you should hear the kind of shit cg pulled on his trimmer.... actually went and married her... WHAT a deviant
Yeah...but she had big boobs, so it's ok.
collective gardener
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I'm thinking of just starting small and working up to bigger micron bags. If I keep all the product seperate, it should be a breeaze to figure out the best screen for our strain. My trim has an assload of buds in it. We only have 2 pilkes now: AAA for sale, and gtrim. Small buds go into trim pile. I used to keep em to pay trimmers and for gifts. Alot of it just sat and went kinda bad. Now friends will have to just suffer and get the AAA for gifts, and most trimmers are getting cash. Having so many buds in the trim pile should make for some pretty good yield.
collective gardener
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It's stories like this that make our laws seem so frustrating to me. There is a great economy potential here for California. We stand to benefit more than any other state with national legalization. If tomorrow we could legally produce and export, there would be a flood of jobs here. Pot already employes so many people (myself included), yet so many talk bad of it still.*ehem*
no infringing on my "hired naked gun" maintenance team idea, please. does it matter that i'm a team of one for now? (sometimes 2, but you prolly don't wanna see him rock a bikini.)
in bc, there is an entire subculture/mini-economy based on housewives who trim (and it's pretty much an accepted fact that women are preferable for the longhaul jobs). it's to a lesser degree now, and especially with the advent of machines like the spinpro and trimpro it's a lot harder to make an actual living at it these days, but a decade ago i knew an army of children who were being raised by singlemoms whose main income was from trimming.
that said, i've always wanted to see california... *nudge nudge*
I love the single moms story. I'm glad that my industry was able to provide employment where other industries failed to do so. And I mean FAILED. We are failing our comrades. Single mothers are getting less and less help in this country. If the Tea Party has their way, we'll throw em all under a bus.
I pay $12 - $20 per hour for trimmers. I've found that there's a big spread on what different people can produce...hence the big price difference. With our high standards, it wouldn't be fair to pay by the pound. I had a guy want to trim for $200/pound. If I held him to that he would have made about $5/hr. Currently the only $20/hr worker is my wife. I promise it's not because she's my wife. She out produces every single person who has ever trimmed in this op. In fact, she sets the standard for what you have to do to hit the $20 mark. Most my trimmers get $15, and I have 2 people who get $17. Alot of people don't like to pay people different rates for the same job description. As a business owner of over 20 years, it's the only way I fly. If you do more work, you should get paid more. Period. I leave it up to the workers whether they want to tell the others what they are making per hour. For my part I keep that confidential.
The best thing for me would be to just have 1 or 2 trimmers that would work 8+ hrs/day for 10 days or so in a row during harvest. I can stagger the crop to allow that. The less people involved, the better. Unfortunately, I haven't found anyone who can do that. Which is understandable. It's not a full time job, but needs full time hours once a month. If a single mom approached me, I'd probably just roll it into a full time gig. I was raised by a single mom from the time I was 2 years old. I have a special place in my heart for moms going it alone. It's not all trying to "do the right thing" either. Single moms have a huge responsablity that goes beyond themselves. If they have a good job that puts a roof over their heads and food on the table, they want to keep it. They are less likely to steal, and more likely to go above and beyond. If you tie the health of the grow op with the health of their childeren, the mom WILL NOT let plants get sick or die. When you combine the commitment of a single mom with the fact that women tend to take care of plants better than men, you may just have the perfect employee.
Kitty, I have no problem shooting you some work when you visit California. I can't promise to finance your vacation, but, with the right timing, I could provide a few buck to offset your expenses. You and hubby could stay at the shop, as well. We're in the process of setting up a little living area there. You guys could stay with us, but we live on a sailboat without alot of room. The grow is also a bike ride from the beach. I would love to have you visit the grow and add insight.
person1,000,001
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You guys can thank northern cali for that, and your welcome.
MrEDuck
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The idea bugs me. That's what they do to people who bag hard drugs. I couldn't treat people like that.
If I had to treat weed like drugs I wouldn't be growing.
Wolverine97
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Seriously, I could go right now and probably pick up a $100 bag off my basement floor. I just don't care, that much.
Prohibition never works and anyone who has read history knows this, and I am not just referring to the mess the Vollstead act created. Since our govt. is ran by people with educations who know this there is some other reason, qui bene?
This is an absolutely phenomenal thread. I took several days to read it in it's entirety although I must admit I really enjoyed C.G.'s Cliff Notes edition roughly 2/3 rds of the way through.
I am just looking at getting started with mmj and I hope to be able to, discreetly grow my own small supply one day, assuming this medication helps, and I am just flabbergasted at the breadth and depth of knowledge that C.G. not only has but gives away with open hands! In this day and age when anyone who knows even the smallest most inconsequential thing tries to charge you for it the generosity of C.G. and the regulars on this thread is amazing!
I wish I could give rep to everyone here but as a newbie I don't yet know the ins and outs but I won't forget, thank you all, I look forward to learning at your knee(s),
Annie
Jozikins
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Tonight I went back through an old cannabis bible, the original one I picked up, the Grow Bible from Jorge Cervantes. Man, I tell you, he put a lot of great info in there that you quickly forget about when you don't have a lot of experience, but once you have a thorough understanding of cannabis cultivation it becomes twice the treasure trove it was before. Other members are right though, it would seem after reading the text, that even with dry sieve, screen size is crucial. Much of this book is based off opinion, but it's a collaborated opinion of a slew of incredible cannacultivators!
I think I am using a 73 micron bag on this Blue Dream with the dry ice sieve method.
Everything that isn't good enough for me to smoke or given to patients is put into food, and even if it is good enough, I still like to cook with it. lol.
I did not get with ABC yet in Huntington, but I will get you two in contact soon. I am thinking of skipping the whole MMJ scene and getting you in direct contact with a breast cancer clinic that advocates it, but does not advertise recommendations. I am trying for you, and if I can get them to converse with me a little on the subject I will absolutely put you two in as direct contact as possible. A friend from work is going to them, and she is trying radiation without mmj, but if she can't do it I have arranged free medication and state recommendation for no charge through a good doctor, I'm sure hers would do it anyways for her, her doctor is very pro cannabis from what she has told me. I have not talked to this clinic at all yet, but it seems like a good place to start fishing.
But I think if you want your medication to go to the right place, it should be through a service offered, probably delivery service, exclusively through a private cancer clinic, or other serious illness clinics that do not shamelessly script healthy patients.
MrEDuck
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The problem with a private cancer clinic is they're not treating poor people or even middle class people usually.
This just popped into my head, and I don't know if it'll work or be another dead end. Is there a way of searching for nonprofits? Even if you have to manually sort through a list of local 501(c) or 503(c) or whatever the tax code for nonprofits is? Then look for ones that deal with things like terminal illnesses. It might help. I've gotta say it blows my mind that you have people all but lining up to buy your pot and you can't give it away to people in need.
This just popped into my head, and I don't know if it'll work or be another dead end. Is there a way of searching for nonprofits? Even if you have to manually sort through a list of local 501(c) or 503(c) or whatever the tax code for nonprofits is? Then look for ones that deal with things like terminal illnesses. It might help. I've gotta say it blows my mind that you have people all but lining up to buy your pot and you can't give it away to people in need.
collective gardener
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Go Jozikins...you the man. Thanks for the pro effort on finding patients. I took a break on that front a while back due to frustration and people trying to scam me for free pot. Youe effort has lit a fire under my ass again. In fact, there's a poster right here on this thread who is in need and will be getting some free meds this week...she knows who she is.
Jozikins, just let me know what I have to do. I can be abywhere anytime if it means a meeting with someone who can get us the needy folks.
Mr E Duck, it is ironic that I have zero problem selling the shit, yet can't seem to give away more than a couple 1/8's a month. I am sure that it will be someone on this thread who connects me to the right folks who really need meds. If you guys want to do something good with your time and further the cause, as well...help us find these people.
TheLastWood
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Cg you should set up a booth or somethin at a run for the cure marathon. Then you could be around thousands of ppl that may need, and its a better environmeent than in a doctors office or somethin.
Not sayin askin doctors is a bad idea
But if you set up a booth it could b kinda discreet just say somethin like "natures cure" or "herbal remedies" or somethin n then once you start talkin to ppl u could feel them out. Your legal anyways so its all good but discreet is always better.
EDIT: better yet, you could print off a bunch of pamphlets about mmj and THE TRUTH and your purpose there is "to educate". You may just turn a few ppl to our side, and meet the needy at the same time.
Not sayin askin doctors is a bad idea
But if you set up a booth it could b kinda discreet just say somethin like "natures cure" or "herbal remedies" or somethin n then once you start talkin to ppl u could feel them out. Your legal anyways so its all good but discreet is always better.
EDIT: better yet, you could print off a bunch of pamphlets about mmj and THE TRUTH and your purpose there is "to educate". You may just turn a few ppl to our side, and meet the needy at the same time.