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Joedank

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I don't do dry screen anymore but I love keif my homie uses tight woven black shower curtains stretched over garbage cans and a drill..Lifted this from Marc emery article on c.c.
"Dry screen hash is made with a single 110-micron screen"
I have used 110 and it can be bought for making trim tables so all the sugar falls thru while you trim
 

TheLastWood

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I've always heard a 120-140 micron screen is the best.

To me, kief is for the kiefbox on the grinder

Bho is what its all about. Nice thick,sticky, pure, golden goodness. Mmmm.
 

Joedank

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Oh man I gotta give you shit for using a keif havesting grinder that is too much lost thc for me keif is for trim I don't keif my stash as I smoke it I grind and pour or use a shotglass and scissors ... Oh there I go trolling again
 

Wolverine97

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Screens come in two different size scales; micron and LPI (lines per inch). 120 LPI is close to = to 90 micron... I think. If you're doing a single screen I'd do 120-125 LPI.
 

TheLastWood

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How is the thc lost? Its in the kiefbox.

I mainly use scissors also tho just cuz I only break up small amt at a time so it doesn't dry out to fast.
 

mellokitty

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thank you so much for the input fellas. the making part is easy now; i just borrow my friend's payload washer.

but i seem to manage to fuck up the finishing process about half the time (i know i know. got slapped by wayne brady along the way and everything).
so, like, spread it as thin as it'll get?
and does it have to dry slowly, like plants do, or can i just quick dry it?
 

TheLastWood

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Spreading it will dry faster so that's what I do

I scoop it out of the bag with a spoon, pour it onto a plate, put it in the cabinet and check on it tommoro.

Gardener have you seen fdd2blk washing machine hash thread?
 

collective gardener

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Spreading it will dry faster so that's what I do

I scoop it out of the bag with a spoon, pour it onto a plate, put it in the cabinet and check on it tommoro.

Gardener have you seen fdd2blk washing machine hash thread?

I haven't seen that thread from fdd2blk. I have to say that this discussion is great. Who knew has could spring about so much talk. OK. Keep going.
 

Joedank

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http://www.silkscreeningsupplies.com/product/MSH110W50Go here for silk screen bulk
my bro on gardenscure built a tumbler for dry screen like one of the old pollinators but huge... Glassed in it looks tits
Mello I just spread it out thin then scrape and crumble .... Easy as123... My new customers like it like brown or red sand so I crumble alot and don't cure it much but I always use glass for all steps but the mixing.
 

TheLastWood

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I actually have some cataract kush trim I need to run. I've been makin a lot of oil lately cuz I like to keep my trim/hash seperated by strain.

With the 5 gallon bags you need at least 2 oz of trim to make it worth ur while, if I mix jack herer,plushberry and cataract kush trim ill have enough, but then ill have to use all 5 bags.

Easier to just make oil, only need about a half oz to get a gram and a half of oil.

I also vacuum purge my oil to make it insta ready to smoke, instead of waiting for trace elements of butane to evap. My last batch came out like bubble anyways, I can hold it in my hands without it sticking to me. Weird. Plushberry. I love it tho.
 

rzza

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I don't do dry screen anymore but I love keif my homie uses tight woven black shower curtains stretched over garbage cans and a drill..Lifted this from Marc emery article on c.c.
"Dry screen hash is made with a single 110-micron screen"
I have used 110 and it can be bought for making trim tables so all the sugar falls thru while you trim
this wont be acurate for any flavors. perhaps it was the best size screen for HIS strain but different strains glandular heads will vary in size from each other thus making a 110 screen perfect for one strain but the next may not yield anything with that screen.
i have an 8 bag set and some strains the yellow bag gets filled and some the black gets filled and the yellow captures zero.
 

Joedank

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^^^ I am referring to dry screen as you see in above post for wet I use different work bags depending on strain but only two bubble bags EVER give me full melt u73 u90 (I think) any way
CG - dry ice makes tons of product but not high purity do to the crystalzation when plant matter comes in contact with the -400ish ice..- according to sources--- take that for what you will u still wanna try it:)
According to mila the bubble bags are only supposed robe three bags max those low ones just catch colored cellulose... I'll edit this again with a link to that. I little light reading;
MICRON VS LPI Mesh sizing
The US and some other countries use the " lines per inch " or L.P.I. method of identifying mesh, which is a measure of how many strands contained within one linear inch of the mesh. 200 LPI mesh will have smaller hole size openings compared to 100 LPI because there are twice as many lines of fiber per inch.

This LPI method does not take into account the fact that different mesh have strands that vary in thickness, which alter the hole size opening.

The rest of the world uses the metric measurement system for mesh sizing. The
"micron" - measures the inside width measurement of each mesh hole opening. This is a far more accurate method for determining the mesh size openings.

ex. "200 micron mesh" has larger mesh openings compared to a "100 micron" mesh.

Comparison of mesh measurements
L.P.I. / Micron
83 / 200
110 / 150
137 / 120

Approximate Micron mesh sizes for hashing

Passive trichcome collection -
Use 150 ~ 160 micron mesh ( 100 ~ 110 LPI )

Active flat screen -
Use 140 ~ 120 micron mesh ( 115 ~ 137 LPI )

Ice hash extraction -
See Bubble-man's site for full details about multi-bag ice hash extraction.

Screening with mesh
Prior to screening ....grind up bud and resiny leaf to jay rolling consistency size, but don't cut up the herb too small.

If you are using a stash-box with an inner mesh screen cover..... turn the inner cover upside down, half fill with ground-up bud, fit the mesh frame snuggly on the inner cover, turn it over, place back in the stashbox and agitate it (or just hold the inner cover, the screen frame and the glass together) and do the horizontal circular shake thing for a few minutes.

If you are not using a box be careful of draughts as the light resin can and will fly away with the slightest wind when actively screening.

Kif quality
Good advice is to stop every few minutes and set the powder aside in separate piles - taste and strength-test each pile. You should find that quality drops as each subsequent pile has a higher % of broken up veg matter and less % of resin heads.

I generally do a side-to-side shuffle for less than 2 minutes with a half oz of bud that gives me a small amount of sticky resin.

I stop when the kif does not easily form into a shape and stay there with a little thumb and palm pressure.
 

jyermum

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You might want to check out doublejj's thread with his washing machine bubble setup. The guys over at http://aqualabtechnologies.com/ have a bunch of good YouTube bids and info. In the past I've always done the bubble bags but a buddy just got a roller so Ive been rolling the small crystal trim and using the bigger stuff for bubble. After seeing the dry ice methods I'm all about trying that instead of the roller since his screen might be too big because my results are green not white :(
 

collective gardener

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Well, that's the best blast of hash making info I've ever seen on a couple pages. Thanks to all for sharing your extensive knowledge.

While I can certainly see why folks prefer to make Ice Water Hash, it's really not for me. In my opinion the water washes away too much essence. Water hash has always seemed just a little "boring" to me. I've had plenty of full melt shit, too. It's strong, but lacks a certain broadness and depth of flavor that dry sieve sems to have. I don't want to start a debate, just voicing my fucked up opinion. The dry ice method seems a great way to pump up the dry sieve yield. Plus, putting the bag over the buckey to screen with is genius. SO much easier than the flat sceen.

I'm making some today...in about 3 hrs, in fact. Yipeeeee. If it all works out, I'll have a die machined that stamps a BK (bubba kush) into each 1 gram puck. Just a little marketting fun. My shop is surrounded by tool and die machine shops. We'll get a die going that can press a dozen or so 1 gram pucks in one shot. Fuck that little one at a time hash press.
 

MrEDuck

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I really hate to disrupt this wonderful hash discussion, but I did some looking for info about ripening and CO2. I couldn't really find anything, although I didn't have access to one paper that seemed promising from it's keywords. It's Cereal Research Communications, Vol 36, Supplement S, Pg 1855-1858. If you know anyone who goes to a school that has an agriculture program they might have access. Also the UC system library has subscriptions to pretty much everything.
There were some pretty interesting papers.

I'm really enjoying all this hash talk. I've got a bunch of bud that has an ammonia smell to it that I'm planning to make into hash. I just need to decide on a method.
 

collective gardener

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bring on the hash cg cant wait to see the results

We'll be done with the last of the trimming of the current crop tomorrow. My wife won't let me make any has until all the trimming is complete. She's actually still at the shop trimming right now, while I sit and BS with you folks. I have a feeling I'll be in trouble tonight. Women seem to be able to sit and trim for longer than men. I hate to say it, but it's true! All my best endurance trimmers have been girls. Not only can they bust out the 12 hr days, but they do a better job than most men, too. Maybe I should get a bunch of bikini clad girls and pimp them out to commercial grows. They could be the "Micro Bikini Trimming Team"
 
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