For The "Liberals" In The Forum ...

[mame]

You seem like a very pissed off individual.

So what are YOUR reasons for being a "leftie"?

Keynesianism.

Also, I used to consider myself a centrist but the Republican party of today is too batshit insane both socially and economically; I actually dont mind Reagan types compared to the Bachmann's of the world... Maybe I'll consider myself a moderate again one day, when the Republicans actually have some palatable positions - but as I've said already... They're just too fucking crazy ATM.

Imagine that a liberal crying racism. Bravo!

I laugh in the face of anyone that calls me a teabagger and tell them only there mom can call me that because I did it to her last night.

My point was that neither calling someone out for wanting "handouts" nor calling a rightie a "teabagger" are very constructive at all. The whole "Fuck off" was an irritated me saying "if you can't debate the issues, as opposed to demogouging your opponent - than you dont belong on a politics forum."... Better? I find it highly offensive that you see lefties as just a bunch of people looking for handouts, because that's not how it is at all; Sure, you've got your uneducated dolts who vote based off of something stupid along those lines but you have that on both sides.

Your age explains why your a liberal. When you get out of school and start getting raped by the tax code there's a good chance you'll change your mind. Hell your brain isn't even fully developed yet.

I've been on my own since I was 18, you guys telling me about the "real world" is kind of pointless, as I've already been here paying the same taxes and bills as everyone else.

 

[reazon]

Yes by all means do not read, and do not follow current events.

We can't have people broadening their perspective; or keeping up with current events.

That would be intolerable.
I try to be as blunt as possible without making people feel like their intellect is being attacked...hmmm...We are already sucked into the game...How "JUST" is our Judicial System? Constitution? What group of people wrote it? What was America built on? Why do we have millionaire politicians as "public servants"? Why is it that if the Government is for the people we continue to get no disclosure on anything ET? Where are we getting 66 billion from for space? Why do we have a Constitution based on religious principles but we have homeless people? What is the point of the stock market? what kind of people are typically in the stock market? Why do we have a price tag on our lives? WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO FALL TO THE LIES EVERY POLITICIAN SAYS!! How can a bunch of millionaires dictate whats best for the working force? Democratic party is just a lie in disguise...Harry Reid...clown...Nancy Pelosi...clown....They're also millionaires...Oh and no need to mention any Republicans...their not in disguise...we know most of them are wealthy

 

[redivider]

you constantly keep spouting out mountains of bs while ignoring how close our country is to ruin.

this idea of 'liberty' you have in your mind will drive this country into a 2-class society.

the middle class was made possible in this country b/c the government helped it rise. that's what made the country great. now keep blabbing on about liberty, i'll keep reading how well your 'job creators' are doing and how fucked the rest of us are....

 

[reazon]

you constantly keep spouting out mountains of bs while ignoring how close our country is to ruin.

this idea of 'liberty' you have in your mind will drive this country into a 2-class society.

the middle class was made possible in this country b/c the government helped it rise. that's what made the country great. now keep blabbing on about liberty, i'll keep reading how well your 'job creators' are doing and how fucked the rest of us are....

LMAO@ your comment...Its all propaganda...Our Government has a blank check....The game being played is on the World level with the currency market....Also...American companies are sitting on a lot of money..NEWS only fuels the game

 

[deprave]

If you think the left is really pro middle class then you have a lot to learn...people who say they are democrats have been conned by some of the most succusfull con artist of our time. Why don't you pick up some these books we are suggesting and you will do a 180, I once considered myself a democrat untill I read some books and realized what conservatism actually is and learned of the liberals dirty tactics. Yea go ahead post fox news clips all day, a lot of republicans are neocons and centrist and they are dead wrong also, but keep falling the liberal nonsense you've been con'd....everyone wakes up and figures this out eventually, it happens about age 30 should you decide to pickup some of these books.

 

[reazon]

If you think the left is really pro middle class then you have a lot to learn...people who say they are democrats have been conned by some of the most succusfull con artist of our time. Why don't you pick up some these books we are suggesting and you will do a 180, I once considered myself a democrat untill I read some books and realized what conservatism actually is and learned of the liberals dirty tactics. Yea go ahead post fox news clips all day, a lot of republicans are neocons and centrist and they are dead wrong also, but keep falling the liberal nonsense you've been con'd....everyone wakes up and figures this out eventually, it happens about age 30 should you decide to pickup some of these books.

Nice!! No need to read books...just look at the lifestyles these people are living on our backs....its all a game and its time people opened up their eyes...People see two politicians go at it on t.v. and we seem to think these people are enemies...ahahahahahah!!! so far from the truth....Business men and women have one agenda and thats to keep the business going at all costs..if I was a politician with a successful business...why would I pass legislation that messes with my bank account? WAKE UP AMERICA..Its not about race anymore...its about who has money and who doesnt..simple as that...

 

[BudMcLovin]

Keynesianism.

Also, I used to consider myself a centrist but the Republican party of today is too batshit insane both socially and economically; I actually dont mind Reagan types compared to the Bachmann's of the world... Maybe I'll consider myself a moderate again one day, when the Republicans actually have some palatable positions - but as I've said already... They're just too fucking crazy ATM.


My point was that neither calling someone out for wanting "handouts" nor calling a rightie a "teabagger" are very constructive at all. The whole "Fuck off" was an irritated me saying "if you can't debate the issues, as opposed to demogouging your opponent - than you dont belong on a politics forum."... Better? I find it highly offensive that you see lefties as just a bunch of people looking for handouts, because that's not how it is at all; Sure, you've got your uneducated dolts who vote based off of something stupid along those lines but you have that on both sides.


I've been on my own since I was 18, you guys telling me about the "real world" is kind of pointless, as I've already been here paying the same taxes and bills as everyone else.

Not trying to be a dick but I really don't care what offends you. I never said liberals are all looking for a handout they are enables. Liberals think different than conservatives and libertarians. Liberals think with their emotions and feelings libertarians and conservatives use logic. Then there are people out there who will take advantage of the systems in place to help those who really need it.

So tell me how much money should the government be able to confiscate from one person? Is force a person to work for the benefit of another not a form of slavery? Why is it ok for the bottom 50% to pay no federal income tax but the top 1% pay almost 40% of the tax burden but they still aren't paying enough. The left talks about fairness all the time but can't see the hypocrisy of their own policies. What happens when we run out of other people's money?

As far as your age goes I'm saying you don't understand human nature. When you get a little older you'll think differently than you do now. It's hard to explain but after a certain age the brain processes information in a different way. I'd almost say with more clarity but that not really the right word. Well I did anyway. It has nothing to do with the "real world".

 

[UncleBuck]

Liberals think with their emotions and feelings libertarians and conservatives use logic.

petulant.

Is force a person to work for the benefit of another not a form of slavery?

why don't you go actually be a slave and tell me if there is a difference.

no one is forcing you to work

Why is it ok for the bottom 50% to pay no federal income tax but the top 1% pay almost 40% of the tax burden

probably because the bottom 50% make dick, and the top 1% makes about 40% of the money.

What happens when we run out of other people's money?

oh noes!

go ahead and go galt on us.

as i am fond of saying, there are plenty more "producers" waiting to staff your position as part-time manager of the cinnabun at the local mall so that you have all the time in the world to fap it to ayn rand.

 

[BudMcLovin]

petulant..

Yawn.

why don't you go actually be a slave and tell me if there is a difference.

no one is forcing you to work .

That still doesn't change the fact one person is forced to work for the benefit of another. There is a big difference in paying taxes to fund the neccessary funtions of the government and paying taxes so other people can sit on their ass. Oh I already know some people actually need help and while I don't like it I'll pay taxes for that. There are also people who just suck up "help" from the government because they are lazy and don't actually need it. Not to metion all the other bullshit government wate money on. Why is it the federal government job to fund a study on why pigs smell?

probably because the bottom 50% make dick, and the top 1% makes about 40% of the money..

So they should have to pay even $10 a month in taxes? How about a dollar? Why do they get a free ride?

The top 1% makes about 17% of yearly income not 40%. But they do have about 40% of the total wealth. Even so how does it justify the theft of one persons property to give it to another? How is "fair"?

oh noes!

go ahead and go galt on us.

as i am fond of saying, there are plenty more "producers" waiting to staff your position as part-time manager of the cinnabun at the local mall so that you have all the time in the world to fap it to ayn rand.

Did I say my money? I'm talking about when other nations say enough we're not buying any more of America's worthless debt. At some point it will happen. Why would they continue to fund the American government when they know their never going to get a return on their investment.

 

[UncleBuck]

That still doesn't change the fact one person is forced to work for the benefit of another.

name me one person who is forced to work.

that should be easy, since you conservatives and libertarians are so logical, right?

 

[skiweeds]

cant say im a big republican fan but im extremely conservative. libertarian in fact. liberals are whats running the country to shit, and republicans, even though they're conservative, sure helped run the country into shit. fuck all poloticians except ron/ran paul and gary johnson. the rest can go fuck themselves. these other asshole politicians never have and never will get a vote from me. VOTE NO!

 

[BendBrewer]

Something tells me the OP is a huge fan of Uneducated Entertainers. You can just hear it can't you.........

 

[BudMcLovin]

name me one person who is forced to work.

that should be easy, since you conservatives and libertarians are so logical, right?

True people aren't forced to work. Let me reword my statement for you. When a person works they trade part of their life for the money they earn. Then the government comes along and takes a portion of that money to pay for others who are to lazy. So the government is not only taking a portion of a persons life they are saying another person's time on earth is more important. Or some government hack thinks some bullshit project is a good idea and we are require to pay for it.

Now back up your opinion. Explain how it's not federally sponserd discrimination and borderline slavery to take from one to give to another? How is it fair? How can librals call spending money we don't have a good thing. Our debt is $14 trillion how about we pay a little bit of that off.

 

[UncleBuck]

Explain how it's not federally sponserd discrimination and borderline slavery to take from one to give to another?

i'll let you do that

...people aren't forced to work.

by the way, it's spelled "sponsored".

 

[BendBrewer]

Our debt is $14 trillion how about we pay a little bit of that off.

You need to ask the person who refunded money to tax payers instead of paying off our debts. He's in the Texas phone book under the Bs.

The last guy who made large payments on them was a guy named Clinton. You might remember him as the US President who left office with the highest approval rating in the history of this country.

You sure that you are voting for you interests? Might want to double check that.

 

[BudMcLovin]

i'll let you do that



by the way, it's spelled "sponsored".

Imagine that another say nothing response from UncleBuck. I should have know not to expect anything else.

 

[UncleBuck]

Imagine that another say nothing response from UncleBuck. I should have know not to expect anything else.

you don't have to say much to obliterate an argument built on a faulty premise.

you never told me who is forced to work.

 

[BudMcLovin]

You need to ask the person who refunded money to tax payers instead of paying off our debts. He's in the Texas phone book under the Bs.

The last guy who made large payments on them was a guy named Clinton. You might remember him as the US President who left office with the highest approval rating in the history of this country.

You sure that you are voting for you interests? Might want to double check that.

So are you saying because Bush spent so much it's ok for Obama to spend even more? Bush accumulated 4 trillion in debt in 8 years. I think that's way to much. Yea I think that bullshit stimulus check they sent out was a bad idea but Bush is gone so is Clinton. Obama has accumulated $5 trillion in debt in 3 years and he is still in office today. So do we just keep spending money we don't have? What's wrong with the government not spending more than it takes in?

 

[BudMcLovin]

you don't have to say much to obliterate an argument built on a faulty premise.

you never told me who is forced to work.

The chicken in the soup has hairy legs.

 

[UncleBuck]

The chicken in the soup has hairy legs.

good enough white flag for me.