Oops on global warming

[canndo]

Nay, They are still useful in the winter when the heat they put off can be helpful.

But hardly an efficient method of heating our homes.

 

[NoDrama]

But hardly an efficient method of heating our homes.

I don't know of anyone who is exclusively heating their home with Incandescent lightbulbs. During the Heating season CFL and LED have no advantage over the edison bulb.

 

[canndo]

I don't know of anyone who is exclusively heating their home with Incandescent lightbulbs. During the Heating season CFL and LED have no advantage over the edison bulb.

I've always liked the things Drama, but I like my electric bill better with the LEDs. You see, I don't run any of those damn BIG watt bulbs some of you folks use with your favorite hobby.

 

[mame]

I actually sell lightbulbs(among other things) and you wouldn't believe how many people complain about CFLs... I've never had a problem with 'em myself.

 

[secretweapon]

Climate change? Yes the climate changing.

Serious through it will be interesting to see if our crazy weather carries over next year and years after that.

 

[canndo]

I actually sell lightbulbs(among other things) and you wouldn't believe how many people complain about CFLs... I've never had a problem with 'em myself.

They don't like the half second delay before they get light or the few seconds it takes for the light to get bright. I just can't see that as being such a problem that they wouldn't swap a 60 watt bulb for a 17 watt one.

 

[mame]

They don't like the half second delay before they get light or the few seconds it takes for the light to get bright. I just can't see that as being such a problem that they wouldn't swap a 60 watt bulb for a 17 watt one.

They mostly freak out about the mercury in the bulb and they claim the "quality" of the light is lower.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

What does Gore have to do with global warming?

Really? I guess you missed the whole "Inconvenient Truth" fabrication that really got the wheels spinning. A quick little re-post of my comments from a thread on this very subject. It's awesome when they have to admit you were right all along.

I like the part in the movie where he conveniently reverses CO2 and temperature data on the 1000 year chart from ice-core samples. I guess the fact that chart has been used as a standard in numerous textbooks on climatology for decades and has CLEARLY shown that temperature increases ALWAYS precede CO2 increases, didn't fit the plan for him to personally make over 100 million dollars since this little scheme was dreamed up. So they just reversed the data.

Hey anybody remember good 'ol Fat Al's campaign against the timber industry in Oregon that crushed the industry, bankrupted thousands of hard working Americans and moved the bulk of the industry to Canada while raising the price we pay for lumber dramatically. Yes, remember the Spotted Owl? The poor little spotted owl, so misunderstood and such a victim of the cruel timber industry. Oh, wait. They got it wrong? It wasn't the logging industry that was causing the little guy's hardship?

You did see the MASSIVE media reporting on how they got it wrong? Oh you didnt, well that's because it was barely reported on. Turns out it was another OWL that was causing the problem for the spotted owl. Turns out it was just natural selection. OOOPSY. Any apologies to the families whose lives were destroyed by this farce? Of course not. Fuck you very much, it was NEVER about the spotted owl. Case in point, did they repeal the restrictions and regulations that were based on this incorrect information? Of course they didn't.

The ECO-LOONS just wanted the logging to stop in the USA, they have no problem with it moving somewhere else, just so long as WE aren't doing it. Sounds familiar doesn't it, facts be damned, screw drilling for oil, so what if other countries are going to horizontally drill the exact same oil from a little further out and sell it back to us...just so long as WE aren't doing it.

MORONS....BAAAAA-BAAAAA

 

[canndo]

Really? I guess you missed the whole "Inconvenient Truth" fabrication that really got the wheels spinning. A quick little re-post of my comments from a thread on this very subject. It's awesome when they have to admit you were right all along.

I don't understand what a spotted owl has to do with global warming. Nor do I understand what Gore has to do with scientists, climatologists who are saying that the earth is warming and it is likely caused by man.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

I don't understand what a spotted owl has to do with global warming. Nor do I understand what Gore has to do with scientists, climatologists who are saying that the earth is warming and it is likely caused by man.

Ok, I'll explain it to ya like a third grader.

Gore has been one of the "front men" in the Man Made Global Warming hoax. He's in it for the money and the power that comes along with government intrusion.

Scientists are in it for the grant money, ask any of them and they will tell you, toe the line and play up the MMGW garbage and money abounds... deal in reality and good luck.

The spotted owl is just ONE recent example of how the ECO-LOONS grab hold of a cause and destroy peoples lives and livelihoods in the name of some overblown and quite often false impending disaster.

You didn't REALLY need me to explain this did you?

 

[jeff f]

Ok, I'll explain it to ya like a third grader.

Gore has been one of the "front men" in the Man Made Global Warming hoax. He's in it for the money and the power that comes along with government intrusion.

Scientists are in it for the grant money, ask any of them and they will tell you, toe the line and play up the MMGW garbage and money abounds... deal in reality and good luck.

The spotted owl is just ONE recent example of how the ECO-LOONS grab hold of a cause and destroy peoples lives and livelihoods in the name of some overblown and quite often false impending disaster.

You didn't REALLY need me to explain this did you?

i recommend a second grade explanation....his 157 iq gets in the way of reality. his history started the same day as his cognitive thinking ability.

do you have crayons for him muy?

btw, its 30 degrees below normal today where i live. fucking global warming is really shooting a hole in my heating bill budget.

oh and another thing, most of the lumber in my neck of the woods comes from the former soviet block. check, yugo, and the like. in case mr cannknownothing would like to look it up.

 

[Leothwyn]

The spotted owl is just ONE recent example of how the ECO-LOONS grab hold of a cause and destroy peoples lives and livelihoods in the name of some overblown and quite often false impending disaster.

I live in spotted owl country, and I've seen what irresponsible logging does first hand. Not only does clear cutting destroy everything in the area, it fucks up the streams and rivers around it. I have no problem with logging. In fact, one of my hobbies is woodworking. But, I don't think it's reasonable to call 2000 yr. old trees a renewable resource. Something like 95% of the old growth has already been cut, and planting new trees with the expectation that they'll be back to what they were in one or two thousand years seems sort of ridiculous. Logging can be done responsibly and still be profitable.

I guess my point is that it's just common sense that you don't piss in your own well. Seems like trying to cut down on pollution isn't such a bad idea... even if it means that someone isn't going to make quite as much money as they would if they didn't have to be bothered with regulations. And, unfortunately we do need regulations. There's no shortage of people who wouldn't lose much sleep over the harm that they cause to others while making themselves rich.

Sure, there may be some people who are so zealous about protecting the environment that they'll lie or exaggerate to reach their goals, but that doesn't mean that anything related to protecting the environment is just part of some bullshit conspiracy to keep businesses down.

 

[canndo]

Ok, I'll explain it to ya like a third grader.

Gore has been one of the "front men" in the Man Made Global Warming hoax. He's in it for the money and the power that comes along with government intrusion.

Scientists are in it for the grant money, ask any of them and they will tell you, toe the line and play up the MMGW garbage and money abounds... deal in reality and good luck.

The spotted owl is just ONE recent example of how the ECO-LOONS grab hold of a cause and destroy peoples lives and livelihoods in the name of some overblown and quite often false impending disaster.

You didn't REALLY need me to explain this did you?

Thank you for the explainaton. Did all these scientists who lie in order to have jobs and paychecks pitch in and pay Gore to be front man for their magnificient scam?

 

[canndo]

i recommend a second grade explanation....his 157 iq gets in the way of reality. his history started the same day as his cognitive thinking ability.

do you have crayons for him muy?

btw, its 30 degrees below normal today where i live. fucking global warming is really shooting a hole in my heating bill budget.

oh and another thing, most of the lumber in my neck of the woods comes from the former soviet block. check, yugo, and the like. in case mr cannknownothing would like to look it up.

Again with this IQ thing? I don't claim I have 157 IQ. Now I wonder if you, sir, can understand the difference between weather and climate? You seem to be confusing the two.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

I live in spotted owl country, and I've seen what irresponsible logging does first hand. Not only does clear cutting destroy everything in the area, it fucks up the streams and rivers around it. I have no problem with logging. In fact, one of my hobbies is woodworking. But, I don't think it's reasonable to call 2000 yr. old trees a renewable resource. Something like 95% of the old growth has already been cut, and planting new trees with the expectation that they'll be back to what they were in one or two thousand years seems sort of ridiculous. Logging can be done responsibly and still be profitable.

I guess my point is that it's just common sense that you don't piss in your own well. Seems like trying to cut down on pollution isn't such a bad idea... even if it means that someone isn't going to make quite as much money as they would if they didn't have to be bothered with regulations. And, unfortunately we do need regulations. There's no shortage of people who wouldn't lose much sleep over the harm that they cause to others while making themselves rich.

Sure, there may be some people who are so zealous about protecting the environment that they'll lie or exaggerate to reach their goals, but that doesn't mean that anything related to protecting the environment is just part of some bullshit conspiracy to keep businesses down.

Fair and accurate on all counts. There isn't one thing you wrote I can disagree with.

That being said, the whole man made global warming hoax is exactly that, a hoax. The fact (and it's uncontested) that we are only responsible for less than one tenth of one percent of the greenhouse gases that are released into the atmosphere should make it OBVIOUS to anyone other than a zealot or Liberal lemming, that man has NO ability to influence the climate. Then add in the fact here has been NO GLOBAL WARMING since 1995, none... documented... admitted by even the loons. It's time to find a new strong arm cause to redistribute wealth, this one is DOA.

Are we in a warming period, sure we are, we're coming out of a mini ice age.

Is it man made? Laughable. Temperature increases STILL precede CO2 increases, always have...always will. No matter how many data graphs the zealots reverse to suit their argument.

 

[canndo]

Fair and accurate on all counts. There isn't one thing you wrote I can disagree with.

That being said, the whole man made global warming hoax is exactly that, a hoax. The fact (and it's uncontested) that we are only responsible for less than one tenth of one percent of the greenhouse gases that are released into the atmosphere should make it OBVIOUS to anyone other than a zealot or Liberal lemming, that man has NO ability to influence the climate. Then add in the fact here has been NO GLOBAL WARMING since 1995, none... documented... admitted by even the loons. It's time to find a new strong arm cause to redistribute wealth, this one is DOA.

Are we in a warming period, sure we are, we're coming out of a mini ice age.

Is it man made? Laughable. Temperature increases STILL precede CO2 increases, always have...always will. No matter how many data graphs the zealots reverse to suit their argument.

Are you a climatologist?

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Are you a climatologist?

No, much like 90% of the individuals that were listed by the IPCC's "ground breaking" original report that also spearheaded this hoax along with Gore's crap movie.

However, I do know how to read and when I go back and verify data charts that have been in existence for decades in publications, that are REVERSED by GW zealots, all I need is the common sense that a gnat possesses to understand a scam when I see one.

I also made a very comfortable living by learning to read people and divulging their true intentions. I've watched countless documentaries and lectures on both sides of the argument, heard all of both camp's facts and conclusions, seen a great deal of the raw data and so far NOTHING I've seen points to global warming being tied to human activity. Quite the opposite, it seem obvious that it is tied to the fluctuating activity of that GIANT FIREBALL IN THE SKY, you know the one that is responsible for heating this planet. It may not be convenient for the eco-loons but solar activity MIRRORS global temperature changes with such precision, it's amazing anyone even needs to make the argument.

 

[jeff f]

Fair and accurate on all counts. There isn't one thing you wrote I can disagree with.

That being said, the whole man made global warming hoax is exactly that, a hoax. The fact (and it's uncontested) that we are only responsible for less than one tenth of one percent of the greenhouse gases that are released into the atmosphere should make it OBVIOUS to anyone other than a zealot or Liberal lemming, that man has NO ability to influence the climate. Then add in the fact here has been NO GLOBAL WARMING since 1995, none... documented... admitted by even the loons. It's time to find a new strong arm cause to redistribute wealth, this one is DOA.

Are we in a warming period, sure we are, we're coming out of a mini ice age.

Is it man made? Laughable. Temperature increases STILL precede CO2 increases, always have...always will. No matter how many data graphs the zealots reverse to suit their argument.

in the basketball world this post is known as "in your face slam dunk, could not have been better thought out and written!

muy for president!

 

[UncleBuck]

btw, its 30 degrees below normal today where i live. fucking global warming is really shooting a hole in my heating bill budget.

your empirical data certainly trumps that of thousands of scientists worldwide.

guess that pretty much covers that. thanks to jeff f for solving the man-made climate fiasco with his brilliant observation. huzzah!

 

[UncleBuck]

Thank you for the explainaton. Did all these scientists who lie in order to have jobs and paychecks pitch in and pay Gore to be front man for their magnificient scam?

yes, they did.

you see, thousands of scientists from hundreds of countries all over the world wake up every day and, as is part of their nefarious kabal, attend their local secret meetings to discuss ways to falsify millions of data sets in order to obtain their research grants.

they then live high on the hog with their HUNDREDS of dollars of stipends. their decadence is revealed by the shining, gently-used, 1994 Toyota Corrollas that they flaunt for all the lady folks.

only recently has this decades-in-the-making hoax been unraveled by the dumbest of americans watching fox news.