RIU Suicide....Ask an Ex-Cop Anything.

[budlover13]

How far does honesty/respect go, for real?

I mean, I ALWAYS hear cops say things like "just be cool and honest and cooperative and I'll cut you a break.." meanwhile that's all I ever do and have never been given a break on a ticket, never! Not once! It seems like they just say that line so that you'll feel more secure and trusting with them and give out more information than you normally would have had you remained silent.

Is that just a dick cop move or have I just ALWAYS been pulled over by dick cops?

OH SHIT! One more thing, can't believe I forgot this!

I have like 3 or 4 friends who tell me everytime it gets to be around the end of the month, like the 20th.. 22nd... "dude, watch out for cops, they've gotta fill their quota!" - Do cops have quota's they have to fill with speeding tickets and shit like that every month, and if they don't the cop gets in trouble?

Quick post before I go start cleaning the new place. The respect/honesty thing is simply a reflection of the lack of morals in our society. VERY few people truly value those traits any more. I learned the hard way about respect, but honesty means the world to me. When I give someone my word, it becomes about honor, what's right, and trust. The interrogation tactics of lying to a perp is still an undecided for me. One side says I must be honest while the other side says that sometimes to beat them, you have to play their game. SO, in response to your situation, I would say it's a combination of both. Bad luck AND people with poor morals that happen to work as cops. Bankers, lawyers, politicians, doctors, priests. They all lie, or at least a good number of them do. When I say be honest with a cop, my rationale is that whether he's a cool cop or a jerk, him catching you in a lie can never be a good situation. Even jerks will occasionally let someone go for being honest, but if you lie and it is discovered, EVERY one of them will arrest you and file as many charges as they can.

As for quotas, when I worked it was clearly stated that quotas are illegal(at least in Cali) and are not to even be discussed. That being said, fdd hit the nail on the head(again). The "magic number" tended to hover around 30 in my department. That averages to just over 1 ticket per shift. I never was a big ticket writer, but made MANY vehicle stops, usually fishing and giving breaks to all but those with bad attitudes. A couple times I was questioned as to why I wrote so few tickets when making so many stops. I explained my reasoning and was simply told that it would be in my best interest if I weren't so wasteful with city resources such as gas, insurance, my pay, the vehicle, etc. As long as I stayed above 30 a month, I must have been using the resources to my supervisors saisfaction. Cities DO rely on ticket revenue, and generally the amount of tickets they write seems to directly correlate to their dependancy at a local level.

 

[StonedPony]

Maybe you should shut your mouth and allow the pack to establish order. Your just as annoying as he. You never know, he could be a "swine" dressed in sheep clothing - then what? [/QUO

Well for one thing Im not talking so shuting my mouth wont mean much. Im typeing. Hell there are more cops on this site than you can shake a stick at.........this is the internet....if you are parinoid the internet is not for you. EVERYONE sees what you type. Any site devotedto Drugs will be monitored.

 

[BrotherBuz]

Well I am not a cop or anything...but I know for almost a certainty that very few if any police officers use the internet to track down drug dealers...for one anyone can get on this site and talk a big game about what they have and what they are doing...

Really! . . . Just how many members on any MJ site are talking through their ass, with pictures in tow?

 

[NLXSK1]

Really! . . . Just how many members on any MJ site are talking through their ass, with pictures in tow?

If you are DEA you are not looking for a 5 plant grow on a website you are looking for the big fish.

If you are a state cop then if the poster is even in the US you have a 2% chance of them being in your state (1/50) and if you are a county cop then it is a much smaller chance.

As long as you dont post pictures of yourself or information on exactly where you are it is extremely unlikely that you will get busted for what you post on the internet. It is a chance, but that chance is pretty slight compared to all of the other reasons people get busted for grows (girlfriend/wife, Word of mouth, stealing power, etc..)

 

[StonedPony]

If you are DEA you are not looking for a 5 plant grow on a website you are looking for the big fish.

If you are a state cop then if the poster is even in the US you have a 2% chance of them being in your state (1/50) and if you are a county cop then it is a much smaller chance.

As long as you dont post pictures of yourself or information on exactly where you are it is extremely unlikely that you will get busted for what you post on the internet. It is a chance, but that chance is pretty slight compared to all of the other reasons people get busted for grows (girlfriend/wife, Word of mouth, stealing power, etc..)

Ive been around the internet more years than I want to count back during the UNIX days and Ive talked to alot of friends and ppl in general and havent heard of someone being busted on the internet for ouces of pot or a few plants............not worth the effort......War drugs was declared by US GOVERENMENT and the Stoners won..........there is still pot.......................just saying is all

 

[BrotherBuz]

If you are DEA you are not looking for a 5 plant grow on a website you are looking for the big fish

I'm not talking about the DEA wasting time on the net, but after you get busted, then your computer is confiscated and your handle reveals incriminating activity - got it?

 

[NLXSK1]

I'm not talking about the DEA wasting time on the net, but after you get busted, then your computer is confiscated and your handle reveals incriminating activity - got it?

Well, if you take that approach then none of us should be posting on this site at all.

If they are already busting me for a grow they have a search warrant for, there is nothing on this site that is going to get ME into any more trouble.

But yeah, as it is said... Anything can and will be used against you.

 

[......]

Never take advice from a cop or ex cop.
Its cool what the op is doing but I'll continue to call my lawyer if I ever have a hypothetical question lol.With all the money we dish at this guy he'll be happy to answer it and represent me in court.
I hope everyone else on here does the same.
Im sure theres websites set up just like this one where you can ask a real lawyer your question.

 

[NLXSK1]

Im sure theres websites set up just like this one where you can ask a real lawyer your question.

But would it be a real lawyer? LOL!!

 

[......]

But would it be a real lawyer? LOL!!

probably lol.If I was a lawyer I'd set up a site like that to try and get buisness.Im about to see if theres one on google.

 

[d.s.m.]

probably lol.If I was a lawyer I'd set up a site like that to try and get buisness.Im about to see if theres one on google.

http://www.bettercallsaul.com

 

[budlover13]

Hey all! Just checking in while I eat lunch. Spent the morning scrubbing the grout on the kitchen couter with a brush but at least I know it's clean now!

Bettercallsaul! LOL!!!

 

[NLXSK1]

Hey all! Just checking in while I eat lunch. Spent the morning scrubbing the grout on the kitchen couter with a brush but at least I know it's clean now!

Bettercallsaul! LOL!!!

Yeah, but where has that brush been :O

 

[Viagro]

LOL. That's Rick Odenkirk...isn't it?

edit: BOB Odenkirk...my bad.


I'd better call Saul.

http://bcove.me/rs172vqn

Breaking Bad (pilot episode)

 

[budlover13]

Yeah, but where has that brush been :O

Well, I found it on the shelf of the 99cent store, but who knows how it got there! Great, now I've got to soak all my new brushes in bleach! LOL

 

[budlover13]

Well, I took a few "before" pics of my new grow room. The little closet is a strange add-on, but it's going to make a GREAT mother/clone room. I will be building a veg tent to go beside the closet and the rest will be dedicated to flower under 1000w HPS/MH to begin with.

 

[Japanfreak]

Never take advice from a cop or ex cop.

Especially ones who don't actually seem to know the law and have to look in wiki for it.

 

[d.s.m.]

Especially ones who don't actually seem to know the law and have to look in wiki for it.

You seem very unhappy.

 

[Japanfreak]

You would be mistaken, I'm a very happy person but my happiness doesn't prevent me from pointing out this is the last guy anybody should take advice from. So far his answers have been either wrong or "Well I wouldn't arrest ya" and have nothing to do with his short experience as a cop. But it's always nice to see the lack of concern that people like you actually have for their fellow growers, who cares if his advice is dangerous right?

 

[budlover13]

You would be mistaken, I'm a very happy person but my happiness doesn't prevent me from pointing out this is the last guy anybody should take advice from. So far his answers have been either wrong or "Well I wouldn't arrest ya" and have nothing to do with his short experience as a cop. But it's always nice to see the lack of concern that people like you actually have for their fellow growers, who cares if his advice is dangerous right?

Well, I would rather have the advice of a beat cop than that of a security guard. I appreciate you being my Devil's Advocate, because it encourages all other members to think. I have that inside me too. I DO find it funny that my answers are "wrong", but I have clearly stated my limitations. Japan, please continue being the voice of the hard-core stoner. It really evens out the discussion. If I see anything in the future I view as valid, I will answer. Other than that, please, don't be beligerant, but keep on keeping on.