RIU Suicide....Ask an Ex-Cop Anything.

Who is this guy?

  • He's a narc.

    Votes: 44 34.1%

  • He's a stoner.

    Votes: 32 24.8%

  • He's a troll.

    Votes: 12 9.3%

  • He just wants to try to help us ALL get along.(No Rodney King pun intended)

    Votes: 41 31.8%
  • Total voters
    129
FebreezeIt said:
You know, I want to be cool with the police. If I see a piece of shit mug an old lady, I think he should be behind bars. I hope police realize that they are hugely missing out by going after people that like to smoke a joint every now and then. Its unfortunate because it seems like they serve only to generate revenue and protect the biggest criminals. The police in the United States have actually become "enforcers" for the globalist banking cartel. They will slap the cuffs on anyone caught with so much as anything which can be identified as cannabis. At the same time, those fucks from Goldman Sacks, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, the cops will drop to their knees and suck their dicks, AND SWALLOW. Bottom line, either the cops are there to keep the peace and help the community, or they are there to enforce the laws and edicts of our rules. If they are there to truly help the community, then they will have my full unconditional support and assistance. If they only serve to enforce any edict or ruler's law, AGAINST the will of the people, then they should all be destroyed, period.
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You're right. An officer's discretion is the only salvation we have. If they had no choice in who is and isn't arrested and just enforced the laws black and white, we would be in trouble. Unfortunately, letting them have that discretion is also a common way that a cop is "dirty". There's a horrible paradox for LEO in that they see that the MJ war is ridiculous and a waste of resources, but that same war also subsidizes their paycheck.
 
I've been advised by legal counsel to never relinquish ANY of my rights without legal representation. How should I say this if I'm rousted?
 
Viagro said:
I've been advised by legal counsel to never relinquish ANY of my rights without legal representation. How should I say this if I'm rousted?
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I would suggest stating firmly, not screaming, I want a lawyer, I want a lawyer. That being said you can be held for 72 hours(in Cali anyway) without representation or even so much as a phone call. They have that long to finish the investigation and determine whether or not to file charges. 72hrs in interrogation is much better that 6 months in jail, but it can be a LONG 3 days.

Good advice BTW. The only thing you have to weigh is "Am I dirty?" vs. "If I resist, this could get ugly."
 
I used to spend half the year in the California gold country pulling gold out of the rivers. My truck camper, and cab, were packed full of stuff for living and working in the bush. It would've been a nightmare to have cops go through my stuff. I saw some guys being rousted in a ditch outside of Bakersfield. CHIPs had their stuff strewn all over the place.

I managed to avoid getting pulled over, but it worried the hell out of me. I think I'd respectfully assert my rights, anytime...anyplace.

Rights matter.

Damn the consequences.


edit: I carried a pistol in a lockbox. Was that legal?
 
Japanfreak said:
I'm still shocked at your advice telling the guy who would probably get off if his landlord called the cops.
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I said I would let my supervisor make that call. I said I would not make an arrest. A good lawyer could VERY likely get him out of that. If the LL SMELLED pot and then called the cops, he's screwed. If the LL made an illegal entry, he has a shot at freedom. In the scenario you describe, a cop could get any individual to open a locked space and then make an arrest based on the findings(Well your Honor, he entered and I just happened to be there to see the incriminating evidence.) An illegal search, IMHO, is an illegal search regardless of who conducts it. Either scenario is likely to end up in court, but you have a better chance if there is an unlawful or even "Grey" search conducted.
 
Viagro said:
I used to spend half the year in the California gold country pulling gold out of the rivers. My truck camper, and cab, were packed full of stuff for living and working in the bush. It would've been a nightmare to have cops go through my stuff. I saw some guys being rousted in a ditch outside of Bakersfield. CHIPs had their stuff strewn all over the place.

I managed to avoid getting pulled over, but it worried the hell out of me. I think I'd respectfully assert my rights, anytime...anyplace.

Rights matter.

Damn the consequences.


edit: I carried a pistol in a lockbox. Was that legal?
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Yes, there were times when I got a consent and pulled out my Gerber multi-plyer and started removing door panels. Imagine their surprise! (It was based off an informant tip and they were stopped for not making a complete stop)

As for the pistol, it was legal if unloaded, depending on where it's located. Cali state law says that ANY time a non-CCW carrying person transports a firearm in a motor vehicle must do so with the firearm unloaded and the ammunition seperate. In a motorhome the law differs. It becomes anything in the driver's immediate reach(or in the "cab"). Alcohol, weapons, and anything else that is not explicit contraband can be kept BEHIND the driver's seat.
 
Japanfreak said:
How so? Please refer me to the law that a lawyer would use to get him out.



Your opinion doesn't matter, the law matters.
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Again, it varies by state and comes down to your particular states rules of discovery. I will look up the Ca law, if I can find it tomorrow(since I've got a little trimming to do). I MAY link to Wiki, but generally because it is one of the first links to pop up on google.
 
Dude how are you going to tell a guy he would prolly get off and you don't even know the law? Holy fucking shit. Seriously dude.
 
Japanfreak said:
Dude how are you going to tell a guy he would prolly get off and you don't even know the law? Holy fucking shit. Seriously dude.
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Again, take any advice with a grain of salt. Have you ever been represented by a good attorney? I have. They suck until you need them. Advice for ANYONE who has the means, a retainer is inexpensive when you look at the possibilities. Mine costs $6000 to retain and that retainer isn't spent until I need him. Again, it would've been UP TO MY SUPERVISOR, who was much more seasoned, not me. And that would be the case for MOST patrol officers.
 
When a kid says "Ask an ex-cop" questions he's putting himself out there as source of information and yet he doesn't know the actual law that he thinks will get the guy off. Advice that could land somebody in jail but he thinks it's cool because anybody can take his advice with a salt of grain. Not cool in the least.

Budlover I implore you to stop giving advice on this topic. Seriously man, from the bottom of my heart.
 
For those that may be a little skeptical, the only proof I can really offer:

BTW, whatta ya think? It's my Snowcap, freshly chopped.
 

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Japanfreak said:
When a kid says "Ask an ex-cop" questions he's putting himself out there as source of information and yet he doesn't know the actual law that he thinks will get the guy off. Advice that could land somebody in jail but he thinks it's cool because anybody can take his advice with a salt of grain. Not cool in the least.

Budlover I implore you to stop giving advice on this topic. Seriously man, from the bottom of my heart.
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I completely understand your concern, as I think everyone else does too. I am simply offering my mind up for picking. NEVER take ANY internet forum post as law. EVER. Here goes the next disclaimer I guess. If you ask me a question and I answer(which I try to do for all), regardless of my confidence in my answer, check with a legal expert and/or your state and local laws. I would suggest Johnny Cochran myself, but that's going to be one hell of a long distance call.:mrgreen::peace:
 
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