thedoc08
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You should post some updated pics.
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I just want to add something here. The line to the light can handle 1500 watts minimum BUT the light fixture CANNOT. Modern fixtures have a stiker on the socket that will tell you the max watts per socket (usually 60 watts)
You've described the non soft whites as "Bright White" if that's what they're labeled they aren't a good grow light you want "Daylight" or 6500 K. Bright White are 3500 K.
newdude79
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That seems odd, considering most every light fixture and lamp in my house has 100 w bulbs in it. Hell, I have an outlet adapter screwed into a light socket right now, running a 42 watter, 4 23 watters, and a fan on two power strips, and the outlet adapter has a 100 watt incandescent screwed into it....so I dont think your max would be 60 watts. Oh, and that chart doesn't show compact fluorescent's, which is what he's using.I just want to add something here. The line to the light can handle 1500 watts minimum BUT the light fixture CANNOT. Modern fixtures have a stiker on the socket that will tell you the max watts per socket (usually 60 watts)
You've described the non soft whites as "Bright White" if that's what they're labeled they aren't a good grow light you want "Daylight" or 6500 K. Bright White are 3500 K.
tafbang
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Yeah, I'm using Daylight bulbs btw. and my fixture tells me the max watts at the top. I think I can fit 8 up there. I think I might get rid of the soft white bulbs as they are really doing shit. I'm trying to find evidence of successful Daylight cfl only grows. because these soft whites are super soft.
If you guys have any input on daylight only. I could really use that. I can't find anything.
I'm cutting up some white clothes hangers right now to lst all these plants towards the rim of the basket. I'm going to try and get more bulbs and Y splitters soon to max out my ceiling power or be close. all the bulbs will provide a much wider range which is why I'm going to stress all these plants outwards so they all get sexed up by the light a little bit
I get the science in that graph says that each of my bulb varieties are at around the 2 maximum peaks and the 2 smaller peaks. I'm just going to add 2 more 2-8 more daylight bulbs as soon as I can. w/e watts I can pick up at the time is what I'll get.
Major question I just thought of... max wattage. True watts or the watt equivalents?
If you guys have any input on daylight only. I could really use that. I can't find anything.
I'm cutting up some white clothes hangers right now to lst all these plants towards the rim of the basket. I'm going to try and get more bulbs and Y splitters soon to max out my ceiling power or be close. all the bulbs will provide a much wider range which is why I'm going to stress all these plants outwards so they all get sexed up by the light a little bit
I get the science in that graph says that each of my bulb varieties are at around the 2 maximum peaks and the 2 smaller peaks. I'm just going to add 2 more 2-8 more daylight bulbs as soon as I can. w/e watts I can pick up at the time is what I'll get.
Major question I just thought of... max wattage. True watts or the watt equivalents?
You could use the 6500 K all the way but since you've got soft white use them when you start flowering, they stimulate blooming but as you can see in the chart the 6500 K are the powerhouse bulbs. I have a friend in Chicago who did a grow with 75 % 6500 K (T5HO tubes) beautiful stubby plants wish I would have saved a picture of them.
One more tip make some reflectors to bounce as much light back down onto the plants even some aluminum foil (that'll get the trolls out) will work
Check here for more cfl growing stuff: https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/
newdude79
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Did the box of bulbs you bought have a kelvin rating on em? Honestly, you wanna get mostly the 6500k (most available at retail stores) for vegging them out. Then switch to the 2700k for blooming. But, you've probably heard that already. The ones I get don't say bright or soft so I dont know which is which there. But, I'm assuming the brights are in the blue spectrum (probably 6500k), and that's why they're doing better with those. You can mix them just have more of the blue spectrum while you veg, and more of the red (2700k) for when you're ready to try and determine sex. So don't get rid of those, just hang on to them till you're ready to flower. Listen, I can tell that you're probably wanting to prove a point by leaving those plants in one basket lol...but you should consider working up some type of divider for that container at least. You could even proabably cut up a couple two liter bottles, and make flat sheets of plastic and just push em down to the bottom of the pot if you still have enough room to avoid cutting your roots in the process. But thats just a suggestion.
tafbang
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Yeah, I have a little foil in there, I didn't mention it to keep some trolls out. I might use a turkey baking pan or w/e the fuck. and might add more reflectors. I was thinking about laying some down on the dirt to prevent the dirt from stealing on the shine. and no temperature comments. I'm aware and the last thing I'm worried about is heat or magnifying. I haven't been able to use my fan because it's so cold.
yeah, I thought about the 2 liter idea already. I took out my smallest plant that was having trouble the other day and the plant is only about 3-5" tall, but it's root was like 7" and I thought "fuck" to myself. If the root is that big on that lil nigga then the rest are probably beasting. I just plan on adding richer nutrient soil and making sure to feed them really well. risking over-feeding without nutrient burn because I can't stand ugly. I'm just going to battle this out.
I'm not removing anything... I'm in no situation to be removing bulbs lol
yeah, I thought about the 2 liter idea already. I took out my smallest plant that was having trouble the other day and the plant is only about 3-5" tall, but it's root was like 7" and I thought "fuck" to myself. If the root is that big on that lil nigga then the rest are probably beasting. I just plan on adding richer nutrient soil and making sure to feed them really well. risking over-feeding without nutrient burn because I can't stand ugly. I'm just going to battle this out.
I'm not removing anything... I'm in no situation to be removing bulbs lol
Thumbs up from me on the soil and turkey pan reflectors. There's a guide somewhere here using beer cans split open for reflectors, maybe a lurker will know where it is.
Regardless of your temperatures you must get a fan on your plants, it's how they breathe. If you get it high up it's warmer there (hot air rises) hang it from the ceiling perhaps. Those computer power supply cooling fans are a decent starter fan.
tafbang
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that's too much work. I don't feel like cutting shit and smelling bad. the potato chip bag inside out seems easier and better as a reflector. I'm going to just foil it up for now for a few days. I'm not worried about the hotspots, they could use it. and I'll keep them on rotation
and the temp up there is barely 80 degrees. with a fan it turns to about 50 degrees on lowest setting.
once I super rig up some reflectors i'll get that fan going. it's almost night shift, 1 more hour till bed time. I'll have all the reflector stuff made within the next hour and set it up in the basket and on the ceiling. they'll get some fan action tomorrow. the reason the room is cold is because it's the where the house ventilation is. they suck air from my room at the end of the house to warm up the rest of the place. sucks in the winter but it's really nice in the summer
and the temp up there is barely 80 degrees. with a fan it turns to about 50 degrees on lowest setting.
once I super rig up some reflectors i'll get that fan going. it's almost night shift, 1 more hour till bed time. I'll have all the reflector stuff made within the next hour and set it up in the basket and on the ceiling. they'll get some fan action tomorrow. the reason the room is cold is because it's the where the house ventilation is. they suck air from my room at the end of the house to warm up the rest of the place. sucks in the winter but it's really nice in the summer
shrigpiece
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https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/232568-beercan-cfl-reflectors-cheap-easy.html
Here ya go tafbag, homemade cfl refectors
Here ya go tafbag, homemade cfl refectors
robert 14617
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tafbang , do you have a drivers license..honest question please respond with an honest answer......
tafbang
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lol... I just finished up
did that with dull side of foil.
and masking taped foil on the ceiling around the lights. IT'S FACKIN' BRIGHT IN THERE NOW.
the ceiling tape job is identical to that umbrella. going to turn the fan on and give my plants an extra 30minutes of day light
beer cans are cheap easy and the work isn't worth it. there are better and easier ways... I work smart instead of working hard and dumb. that's actually a body building quote also. It took me less than 7 minutes to do all that. maybe even only took 3 minutes. collecting and cutting beercans and then the time it would've taken to take another shower and set all that shit up would've been well over an hour
Why are you asking about a drivers license? I'm going to say fuck you for asking a poofy question. but I'll answer that question for you... it's maybe
did that with dull side of foil.
and masking taped foil on the ceiling around the lights. IT'S FACKIN' BRIGHT IN THERE NOW.
the ceiling tape job is identical to that umbrella. going to turn the fan on and give my plants an extra 30minutes of day light
beer cans are cheap easy and the work isn't worth it. there are better and easier ways... I work smart instead of working hard and dumb. that's actually a body building quote also. It took me less than 7 minutes to do all that. maybe even only took 3 minutes. collecting and cutting beercans and then the time it would've taken to take another shower and set all that shit up would've been well over an hour
Why are you asking about a drivers license? I'm going to say fuck you for asking a poofy question. but I'll answer that question for you... it's maybe
tafbang
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I implemented the fan successfully. I lowered the blow power by putting a sweatshirt over some of it. and leaned it back against the wall on the floor and balanced it with my barbell and iron-gym slight breeze and the leaves are moving safely. 1 more hour till night shift
tafbang
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I feel the covering will keep from keeping the soil at an ideal temperature...I feel I'm going to make an adjustment tomorrow and use all the ground covering foil to just build a wall border, I would like my soil to be at a good temp. the wind is breezing the plants right now and it's around 50degrees. they are close to the light but the lower stalks and roots are pretty cold
O rly? wasting 3-4 months on these pathetic little sprouts instead of listening and using good info?
tafbang
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I've seen more pathetic plants than mine that I couldn't count on 2 hands on these forums, you're doing it wrong
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