Stoner's views on Barack Obama as President

[Johnnyorganic]

If you're referring to his post saying that you can now join the military, I think it was just a jab. Nobody thinks you're gay. But if he had said something like "Johnny, you are a disgusting, flaming, knob goblin, and I hope you burn in hell!" then yeah I'd have a problem with that.

And I always thought women could take part in combat. I'm surprised women aren't pushing for equal rights.

He's been doing it for years now.

He runs out of rebuttals, all of a sudden I'm "gay."

I know I'm not gay and that is all that matters.

But it's not really the point, either.

The point is that using the accusation as an insult is homophobia.

Which apparently means that homophobia is perfectly acceptable as long as the homophobe is not a Conservative.

Or a Teabagger.

 

[Big P]

simple logic proves there is no god.

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

 

[NLXSK1]

simple logic proves there is no god.

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

I reject your logic..

Maybe god does not perceive good and evil as we do. Therefore, he is not bound by the same frame of reference.

 

[oOBe RyeOo]

Your grammar is horrible.

If the Christian God is Omnipotent and Omiscient then why did he create gays? Was it a mistake? How could your god make a mistake? That would assume your god was not perfect... So, if your perfect God created gays that are all going to hell, he must be sadistic. Why do you worship a sadistic God?

You ever hear of a thing called "free will"? Why are you an ignorant prick?

 

[Big P]

but it is intriguing isnt it, i havnt been able to answer that quote above


can you?

 

[NLXSK1]

You ever hear of a thing called "free will"? Why are you an ignorant prick?

But it really isnt free will is it? Unless we do what your God wants, we go to hell.

Sort of like putting a bunch of ants in a maze with death at every end but one. Some will make it. Does it make them Holy?

And as someone else asked... Why are you so angry?

 

[oOBe RyeOo]

But it really isnt free will is it? Unless we do what your God wants, we go to hell.

Sort of like putting a bunch of ants in a maze with death at every end but one. Some will make it. Does it make them Holy?

And as someone else asked... Why are you so angry?

Because you are an ignorant person, talking out of your ass. Calling people racist for not agreeing with a half-black president that is more white than he is black.

And who else in the past few posts said I was "angry"? You seem to be the first.

By the way, if we do follow God's path, we have eternal life and happiness. Free will is there to weed out all of the sinners.

 

[NLXSK1]

Free will is there to weed out all of the sinners.

I said that liberals call people racist for not agreeing with Barak Obama because they are lazy and do not have a better argument.

But god created all of the sins and made some of them feel damn good. Your religion is very confusing...

I am assuming you are angry because you keep calling me names.

 

[oOBe RyeOo]

Just calling it as I see it

 

[NLXSK1]

Just calling it as I see it

Well, you do seem like a holier than thou self righteous prick so the attitude fits the perception...

Your argument is basically *because my God said so*... Weak...

Added: According to your god is it immoral to be gay or immoral to tolerate gays or both?

 

[redivider]

Seriously? Guess I'm a racist then

America is a Christian country weather you like to hear it or not... more than 75% of the nation. All the gays and lesbians are going to hell.

Maybe some people don't like it because it's against *their* religion, you ignorant prick.

Edit: Had to fix my grammar for the grammar police

do a better job next time.

"America is a Christian country whether you like to hear it or not"

weather refers to atmospheric patterns over long periods of time.

and just so you know, america is not a christian country. America is a country that has more christians than anything else, at the moment.

the American Constitution mentions a God, not Christ, you know, baby jesus. that would make it Christian.

so yeah, double fail, read a book for once....

 

[Johnnyorganic]

do a better job next time.

"America is a Christian country whether you like to hear it or not"

weather refers to atmospheric patterns over long periods of time.

and just so you know, america is not a christian country. America is a country that has more christians than anything else, at the moment.

the American Constitution mentions a God, not Christ, you know, baby jesus. that would make it Christian.

so yeah, double fail, read a book for once....

It's sorta easy to figure out why people assume the U.S. is a Christian country, if you think about it.

The zombie's birthday is a national holiday.

The day the zombie was reanimated is a national holiday.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Where exactly in the U.S. Constitution is 'god' specifically mentioned?

I'll even take 'creator.'

I just thumbed through my copy and I find no reference to either.

Article and section, please.

 

[redivider]

assuming wrongly without knowing all the facts doesn't make it any less wrong.

america was founded on the principle of religious freedom.

for now, the majority of americans are christian. in time, that may change...

you start identifying yourself too much with a religion and you'll start to think like what do you call them..... intolerant extremists???? yeah... those.....

 

[redivider]

doesn't mention a god. there's slight references,

who would've thought...

the constitution is soooo not religious it doesn't even mention god.... let alone christ....

 

[Johnnyorganic]

assuming wrongly without knowing all the facts doesn't make it any less wrong.

america was founded on the principle of religious freedom.

for now, the majority of americans are christian. in time, that may change...

you start identifying yourself too much with a religion and you'll start to think like what do you call them..... intolerant extremists???? yeah... those.....

The United States was founded on the concept of liberty in general.

And economic freedom had much more to do with it than religious freedom.

Planters were growing tobacco in Virgina long before the Pilgrims arrived.

The seeds of the revolution were sewn over a tax revolt.

The shooting started over gun control.

And the Constitution was ratified long after the war was over.

 

[DelSlow]

He's been doing it for years now.

He runs out of rebuttals, all of a sudden I'm "gay."

I know I'm not gay and that is all that matters.

But it's not really the point, either.

The point is that using the accusation as an insult is homophobia.

Which apparently means that homophobia is perfectly acceptable as long as the homophobe is not a Conservative.

Or a Teabagger.

Ah, I see. Homophobia is never ok. Period.

 

[UncleBuck]

the simple fact is homosexity is a birth defect...a flaw in nature...a sexual disorder

not even close.

homosexuality is a normal variation of human sexuality.

completely, 100%, normal variation.

just like being born caucasian or negroid or mongoloid is a normal variation in human race.

you speak, yet are 100% of ignorant of that which you speak of.

no wonder what you says reeks. it is spewing out from between your ass cheeks.

 

[UncleBuck]

He is right, Homosexuality is not *normal*

Why? Because if homosexuality was normal the species would become extinct within a few generations.

And simply because of the definition of *normal*

wow, impressive logic.

if 51% of the populace goes gay we are doomed.

DOOMED!

homosexuality is a normal variation of human sexuality, just like brown eyes are a normal variation of eye color or red hair is a normal variation of human hair color.

Gay people should not be discriminated against

this is the only reason why i won't mercilessly berate you.

*hate crimes*, ect seem to say that if you attack a gay person it is worse than attacking a straight person and I see that as not treating people equal under the law.

it is not if you simply attack a gay/black/white person, it is whether you do it simply BECAUSE that person was gay/black/white. whites can be victims of hate crimes too. all you need is to prove intent, like we already do in our justice system.

 

[UncleBuck]

Funny how nobody on the Progressive side of the forum is directing any of their self-righteous wrath at one of their own.

Bongspit, a.k.a. TheDemocrat, uses a false accusation of homosexuality as a lame and juvenile attempt at insult.

sorry, only came into this recently.

and whose wrath you calling self righteous?

i saw bigotry, i condemned it, end of story. i don't like bigotry and point out the idiocy behind it when i can. sue me.