1BMM's CAVE....

1badmasonman

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Nope never done a scrog myself. I have some ideas for a screen but have not decided just yet. a few weeks to go before ill be needing to put one in.

I dont know if id go with the stucco screen. Thats a bit small hole size i think. A 2" X 2" grid screen will work ideal me tinks.
 

las fingerez

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i was a bit wary about using the chicken mesh for the scrog screen as i was thinking about the stem growing into it as it was quite thin and theres some forces in play with my screens. just a thought.

hope ur good bmm, glad 2 see the setup working :) i'm sure u'll crack the ec/ph with a bit of time bro :)
 

1badmasonman

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Well i think i may have gotten to the bottom of the meter issue. I called hanna tech support and they seem to think ive fried the ph probe. Apparently your not suppose to completly submerge the probes in the solution and nowhere in the instructions does it say not to.

So the friendly guy at hanna agreed to send me a new probe free of charge :) Now thats pretty cool of him. He also told me that the meter will not read correctly in the presence of a powed on digital ballast which is a bit of a bitch but not the end of the world. I will simply just have to check my readings at lights out. Cool hope this new probe does the trick.
 

Dezracer

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I just have to make something for a screen, I dunno. Another option I was looking at was using welded wire mesh from Home Depot. It's a sheet of mesh that is 42"X84" and has 6" spacing so there'd be 6" square holes to work with. They're only $7-8 per sheet.

I needed some stuff to tie my plants back to keep them from growing into the cooltube and also to keep them from falling over when the ptos get light and while I picking it up I saw this stuff that's a string trellis. I haven't opened it up yet to see what the spacing is but it's basically a net that's made for supporting vines and training plants. It was only a couple bucks so I bought it to check it out.

Glad to hear you're getting the meter handled.
 

Dezracer

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It's a nylon net, basically. I opened it up, spread it out in my living room and measured it all out. It's a 5'X8' net made of nylon string and when it's pulled tight the openings end up being just short of 6"x6". It was at Home Depot in their outside garden area where they have the wood and metal ones and the plant ties and stuff, $3.97.

I think I'm going to give it a shot and if it fails, oh well. It seems pretty strong though so I think if it's pulled tight it will work pretty good.
 

1badmasonman

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Ohh im sure that should work well Dez. I dont have a home depot where im at but lowes usally has all the same shizznit just dif name brands. Sounds like good dimensions too. Youll have to throw up a pic when you get it hung up.
 

1badmasonman

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Well folks got the garden drained back to the main res and ph adjusted. Man did the water need it. It was reading way high on the scale. I cant believe how well my soil plants handled that high of ph and still put out some killer nugs. ????

It was a pain as gravity although ver very very cheap :lol: Is Sloooooowwww. Fuck man. Took me forever it seemed to pump dry adjust and flod back. Going to look into a couple low pressure pumps to automate the process sos i dont have to sit and babysit.

the pump i have now is to powerful to run for more than 30 seconds before sucking dry the controller bucket.

All in all a easy process to automate. Just gotta find the right pumps. Have it set to a time off day that i can be available to check the ph ec/ppm top off and wam bam thankyou mam. send it all back into the garden at the desired or optimal nutrient levels.

Messed around with the bunk hanna meter somemore tonite and at first i think it was reading ok. Then went into fuckup mode after a few dif solutions. The trusty ole aquarium ph tester saved the day today at just $2.54. Sheesh the petstore has half the shit that a hydro store sells. Like ph up down conditioners. Hydroton. Carbon. A good thing to knwo if ever needed in a pinch. So enough of the finger jaw, Heres some pics.





Add some ph down.


It took alot of ph down to get to this level on the aqua tester scale. Shit smells like sombody farted pppfff haha. Worried that the amount i put in will harm the yins. :shock:





All the yins back in there homes all cozy in the ph correct nutrient bath. Hopefully they start eating now.



A couple of the veg cab

Soil Heabands & dogs. Im thinking for my first run in this setup i may just get the clones rooted good in the netpots and flip 12/12 sog style. Mainly becasue im finding i have to get in the buckets to help along the slow flooding process and flip the airstones back upright.

I dunno well see how well they do tonite and if i can sustain the mix without peeling lids off. Plus i needs me weeds running low. Ill be flowering the headbands and dogs that are in soil along side the hydro. Thats the plan. :peace: 1BMM
 

DST

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I am sure once you get the hydro thing sorted your hassles will be behind you bru....looking at your pumps and equipment just makes my mind boggle. We use to do hydro with one simple pump, and an air stone, haha. Shelf tray set up and just flood the shelf and the nutes went into the tray below, pumped back up again and floodded the shelf again...just ran continuously......the good old days before internet. haha.

Have a good one old parts,

DST
 

GreenBuddha619

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Good see you sorta got the PH worked out. Everything else is looking tits! So 1BMM you have a local hydro store? Why don't you take the Hanna to them and have them calibrate it and see what they can make of it (broken or not) Guy at my local hydro store seems like every time I cruise in they always have the solutions out testing a Hanna meter for someone. Probably have a guy from Hanna as a fulltime rep/employee testing them! haha
 

disposition84

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Looks like a really clean setup, the gravity return would drive me nuts though waiting
a long time. You could always hook an inline pump up to you control res, and make it
constantly recirculating which could help you have a more constant control of your ph
as you can just add a bit of up or down to your control res and it will circulate it around
in a matter of minutes.

Just curious but why did you strap the hosing to the ground with screws and those metal
brackets?
 

1badmasonman

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Thanks for the visit guys. Going to be having a gang of my family over today for turkey day. Wife made up some canna carrot cake for the party. I tried a few out lastnite and they fekkin wrecked me.


MMMM MMM good. Cant wait to trick a few of my fam and get em ripped hahaha.

Happy Thanksgiving All. :peace: 1BMM
 

1badmasonman

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Morning fellas. Damn what a blurr of a day thanksgiving was. Started drinking beer way early in the day and smoking up a bunch of blueberry Headband my bro gifted to me. I did get my dad to eat a couple of carrot cakes hehe. He knew there was weed in then after the first bite but ate them anyways lol. He passed from the stone. Guess it knocked him out lol.

All in all a fun day. Need to check on my plants. :peace: 1BMM
 

DST

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Sounds like a fun day bru.....and a nice cake to boot.

Hope the ladies are all well. I smoked a J of DOG earlier as a tester and its bloody georgous!

Have a good weekend bru.

Peace, DST

p.s i put up a pic of a TW for ya...shite pic due to cam, will get a better on eup soon.



Morning fellas. Damn what a blurr of a day thanksgiving was. Started drinking beer way early in the day and smoking up a bunch of blueberry Headband my bro gifted to me. I did get my dad to eat a couple of carrot cakes hehe. He knew there was weed in then after the first bite but ate them anyways lol. He passed from the stone. Guess it knocked him out lol.

All in all a fun day. Need to check on my plants. :peace: 1BMM
 

1badmasonman

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Sounds like a fun day bru.....and a nice cake to boot.

Hope the ladies are all well. I smoked a J of DOG earlier as a tester and its bloody georgous!

Have a good weekend bru.

Peace, DST

p.s i put up a pic of a TW for ya...shite pic due to cam, will get a better on eup soon.
Hey DST my bru.. Yes it was a quite interesting day lol. Lots of sceptical looks once the cat was out of the bag on the carrot cake :lol:

Ill be right over to check out that TW D :)

Just checked on the ladies and sadly 2 of the headband clones heavent taken well to the dwc. Good thing i got a backup set. :bigjoint:

Roots seem to be sloooooowly working there way through the hydroton and in to the res buckets. Even noticed a bit of vertical growth from the dogs and blue widows. So im feeling confident that my experimental nute diet is doing what i intended. Thats a nice piece of mind. I do have Foxfarms and dutchmasters on standby though. Overall all is well in the cave. Temps are stable ph is stable smell issue is nil. :bigjoint: couldnt be happier.

Im still thinking for this first full run im going to flip 12/12 without scrogging. I have a load of soil plants that im going to flower at the same time fit in between the dwc buckets. So you could technically say it will be a sog but just for this grow. I have a feeling im going to get in a glitch with this setup somewhere so im going for the safe ground for the dry run.

Ill throw out some pics when i have something to show. :peace: 1BMM
 

1badmasonman

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Res change today peeps. Ive been sitting watching for the roots to grow like they do in my cloner and they just aint macking like they do in the cloner. Hmmm, Decided this morning im going to dump the nute batch and remix with plain water and a lil FF tigerbloom. That mix alone has produced excellent results in my cloner without phing or nothing. I think that i probably put them in the hydro a bit to soon but they should make it.

Since the res change new white root growth is evident and i think all is on track now. Hanna meter still fuct. I dont trust it now, so ive opted for cheap easy locally bought ph strips and calculating the feed on a low percentage of what the bottle recommends. Id really like to have the luxery of knowing by the push of a button like i tought i was going to be, but shit happens. I fuct the meter without even knowing it hehe. so sending it back for a replacement and hopefully a acurate one.

Nothing really to show off at the moment. Soil headbands are rally getting bushy. Very beautiful plants and smell fantastic. Dogs are trucking along aswell. like a bru of mine said they have some of the best parts from the mother/father which in this case a nice beefy structure and huge fan leaves. Nice branching and very sturdy plants.

I have plucked a few pre nanners no biggy. Im quite keen on spotting them after a few under me belt. All have show pistils and the manly days i think are behind these 2 strains under my care. Ive managed to keep them gorgeously green to this point which is an acheivement for me. Alot of people seem to think a plant needs to be feed massive doses of nutes to get them ticking when actually its quite the oppsosite. Yes plants do need nutes but go easy folks. Youll know when they arent getting enough by signs of def. Which IMHO is easier to fix than sever nute burn.

In the veg cab the grape apes timewarp and timewarp x romulan are coming right along. some bigger faster than others as im taking notes. Selection of the keepers is all inthe works the rest will get flowered along the hydro in just a few weeks if all goes as planned.

A few pics tommorow for shits and giggles. :peace: 1BMM
 

Dezracer

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Sounds like things are looking up bro.
At what ratio do you mix the tiger bloom in the cloner water?
 
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