Hillary Clinton

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Nobody did. you have been handed reason not to vote for her on a platter by a plethora of facts and you continue to disregard every one of them to keep this thread going. I suppose I'm just posting because maby if I make neough noise you will fess up to it.

you are right.. i fess up
 

WhatAmIDoing

Well-Known Member
If its the same thing, then just use the original quote. So you believe in an armed revolution, but you think its ok for government to confiscate guns, money and lives???? Screw that revolution. If I want to overthrow shit its not gonna be with a super soaker.
First off, i wanted to get it right, and wanted to make sure that nobody was gonna be like "uh,, wrong."

secondly, no. Never said anything about okay for government to confiscate things. That part you made up.

All i'm saying is it's natural, until people can figure it out, for rebellions to happen. And we are long overdue for one here.
 

threatlevelorange

Well-Known Member
First off, i wanted to get it right, and wanted to make sure that nobody was gonna be like "uh,, wrong."

secondly, no. Never said anything about okay for government to confiscate things. That part you made up.

All i'm saying is it's natural, until people can figure it out, for rebellions to happen. And we are long overdue for one here.
OK check it out...you say crew politics, thats fine. But a rebellion IS politics. People don't have chips in their brain that get turn on to rebellion simultaneously and viva la revolution. It takes leaders, followers, and those n between, no different than government itself.

If you thought rebellion was imminent and overdue, you would vote for second amendment rights. Thats what the 2nd is for, rebellions. They said if the government ever becomes too oppressive, people have the right to take up arms against and overthrow that government. The fact that you don't care about things like that and the confiscatory policy of taking 90% of one's income to pay for enlargement and empowerment of government shows that you are by no means ready for any kind of rebellion.
 

medicineman

New Member
confiscatory policy of taking 90% of one's income to pay for enlargement and empowerment of government

Uhhh, what country do you live in? 90%, come on now, exageration may be your strong point.
 

WhatAmIDoing

Well-Known Member
OK check it out...you say crew politics, thats fine. But a rebellion IS politics. People don't have chips in their brain that get turn on to rebellion simultaneously and viva la revolution. It takes leaders, followers, and those n between, no different than government itself.

If you thought rebellion was imminent and overdue, you would vote for second amendment rights. Thats what the 2nd is for, rebellions. They said if the government ever becomes too oppressive, people have the right to take up arms against and overthrow that government. The fact that you don't care about things like that and the confiscatory policy of taking 90% of one's income to pay for enlargement and empowerment of government shows that you are by no means ready for any kind of rebellion.
I love how you know my opinions better than i do...thanks :peace::blsmoke:
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
mr. orange...

if it is NOT white, this does not CONCLUDE it has to be black...
If it is not the anus, this does not mean it has to be the vagina
if it is not a mouse, it does DECIDE it has to be a rat..

if it is not up, it does not have to be down....

IT is impossibles to explore ideas with somebody who ONLY sees things as YES or NO... up or down,

There is more GOING on in the space in between the thoughts than in thoughts THEMSELVES..

Just becasue I say that I don't LIKE you does not mean I dislike you...

Maybe I LOVE YOU?

Maybe I despise you?

Maybe I envy ?

LET THINGS tell themselves without jumping to conclusions..

iloveyou

It is impossible to come up with anything NEW and fresh when the person YOU are speaking with KNOWs everything..

When people NEVER stop thinking, they have NOTHING new to think about. they just keep thinking about the same thoughts over and over...

iloveyou
 

threatlevelorange

Well-Known Member
confiscatory policy of taking 90% of one's income to pay for enlargement and empowerment of government

Uhhh, what country do you live in? 90%, come on now, exageration may be your strong point.
It is not exaggeration. i was explaining principle. Before JFK, 90% for the top 1% achievers was what they paid in taxes. No government voluntarily decreases itself in size and power. It takes votes for a person that takes a violent stand in the name of We the People to keep the tax rate around 35%. It would take a Ron Paul to get it around 27%. It would take a Hillery Clinton or John Edwards to influence the biggest shift TOWARDS that 90% that is even possible in a (relatively) free society.
 

threatlevelorange

Well-Known Member
When people NEVER stop thinking, they have NOTHING new to think about. they just keep thinking about the same thoughts over and over...

iloveyou

As if any of that is objective information. In debates it takes more than a philosophical stance that is vague and undefined to convince anybody. Ask Dick Cheney.



This last one really gets me, though. It's as if you were high and trying to sound smarter than you are.

When people never stop thinking, its cuz they have nothing new to think about? Well, all people who say these things keep talking while they have nothing to say.
 

threatlevelorange

Well-Known Member
I love how you know my opinions better than i do...thanks :peace::blsmoke:

Your right, my bad. I was assuming you wanted to win-or at least survive- such an "armed rebellion" as you put it. It's possible I'm WAY off base with you. You could also just buy guns on the black market. Maby your a felon, or mentally ill and can't buy guns. Maby you are just blowing smoke up everyone's ass when you say that rebellion is imminent, and is predicted by Tomas Jefferson.

When you said "screw politics," you can't turn around and act like you vote for 2nd amendment rights and lowered taxes. Any time you want to refute that, you will have to choose between your "screw politics" statement, and whatever "opinions" you have.

Case in point: you surrendered your "opinions" on politics already.
 

medicineman

New Member
It is not exaggeration. i was explaining principle. Before JFK, 90% for the top 1% achievers was what they paid in taxes. No government voluntarily decreases itself in size and power. It takes votes for a person that takes a violent stand in the name of We the People to keep the tax rate around 35%. It would take a Ron Paul to get it around 27%. It would take a Hillery Clinton or John Edwards to influence the biggest shift TOWARDS that 90% that is even possible in a (relatively) free society.
I'm voting for the 90% comeback,~LOL~. might get you just when you thought you'd be a millionaire, you'd only be worth 100,000, then when your manager gets his cut, a dollar two ninety-eight, yahoo, rock-on. another broke ass boxer. Hey I'm only kidding, I've already wished you much success, but in my scenario, you'd only have to make 11 million to be a millionaire.~LOL~
 

threatlevelorange

Well-Known Member
I'm voting for the 90% comeback,~LOL~. might get you just when you thought you'd be a millionaire, you'd only be worth 100,000, then when your manager gets his cut, a dollar two ninety-eight, yahoo, rock-on. another broke ass boxer. Hey I'm only kidding, I've already wished you much success, but in my scenario, you'd only have to make 11 million to be a millionaire.~LOL~
Yea. It's not even worth the million, or 11 million for that matter. If it was only about money, there would be alot less boxers.
 

WhatAmIDoing

Well-Known Member
Your right, my bad. I was assuming you wanted to win-or at least survive- such an "armed rebellion" as you put it. It's possible I'm WAY off base with you. You could also just buy guns on the black market. Maby your a felon, or mentally ill and can't buy guns. Maby you are just blowing smoke up everyone's ass when you say that rebellion is imminent, and is predicted by Tomas Jefferson.

When you said "screw politics," you can't turn around and act like you vote for 2nd amendment rights and lowered taxes. Any time you want to refute that, you will have to choose between your "screw politics" statement, and whatever "opinions" you have.

Case in point: you surrendered your "opinions" on politics already.
Lol. I never said "rebellion is immenint". Never said Jefferson predicted it. You interpreted it like that. And where do 2nd amendment rights come into this? I missed it entirely. Who said...ah never mind, i can't talk with you. See, I was making a point. Politics is so screwed up that it's always choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich (Thank you Trey Parker and Matt Stone for htat...). So why choose at all? Why not get a new system? Did i ever say i had a good plan for doing so? Did I ever say a single thing that you have attributed to me?


I never said anything except what I said.
 

threatlevelorange

Well-Known Member
Screw politics. I have half a mind not to vote at all, let this country run itself to the ground, and join the armed revolt/revolution that will finally take place. Cause that's what's gonna happen, it's been forever since anyone in this country got pissed and took action about it.

"Every generation needs a revolution" (or was it rebellion? same kinda thing anyway, just a different word) ~Thomas Jefferson.
I don't need to say a god damn thing. And neither should you.


How does 2nd amend....god you really have no idea what your talking about.
 

mockingbird131313

Well-Known Member
Several of you guys are arguing about tax rates and who would do what. Please consider two points.

1. According to the GAO, what the USA has, spends, and collects is phony because of the silly accounting procedures the government offices use.
2. People with real money, move offshore when the tax rate moves above a certain amount. Real money stays in the USA if the tax rate is low enough, because money has been safer here historically.

The next president needs to encourage Congress to keep the tax rates the same or a little lower. Congress must stop the crazy level of spending. Congress has to do a better job of bookkeeping in order to figure out what the correct tax level should be.
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
Several of you guys are arguing about tax rates and who would do what. Please consider two points.

1. According to the GAO, what the USA has, spends, and collects is phony because of the silly accounting procedures the government offices use.
2. People with real money, move offshore when the tax rate moves above a certain amount. Real money stays in the USA if the tax rate is low enough, because money has been safer here historically.

The next president needs to encourage Congress to keep the tax rates the same or a little lower. Congress must stop the crazy level of spending. Congress has to do a better job of bookkeeping in order to figure out what the correct tax level should be.
Fuck that. No taxes. Elect Ron Paul. If the government was the size it should be it would collect a surplus of money even without taxes.
 

mockingbird131313

Well-Known Member
Fuck that. No taxes. Elect Ron Paul. If the government was the size it should be it would collect a surplus of money even without taxes.
If Ron Paul makes it through the primary process, I will fuck the idea. But currently I think his chances are poor. But, I am voting for him in the primary.
 

WhatAmIDoing

Well-Known Member
I don't need to say a god damn thing. And neither should you.


How does 2nd amend....god you really have no idea what your talking about.

Armed vs. On paper. And anyway, you don't need the right to own a gun if you're going to shoot someone with it. In fact...fuck the rights. If you're part of a REVOLUTION you don't care about the previously endowed rights. Anyways, I can see this is not hte conversation for me, and i really don't care, so peace y'all.

(i know this is ignorant, i should care about politics...I just can't get myself interested in such a lame ass topic.)
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
If Ron Paul makes it through the primary process, I will fuck the idea. But currently I think his chances are poor. But, I am voting for him in the primary.
Nice. That's all you can do. I think everybody will be suprised when the primaries start...He's going to get a big majority of new voters, who are not polled. A lot of democrats who love his message of freedom. And the entire anti-war Republican vote to himself. As well as the libertarian-leaning Republicans...I'm so fooking excited. I can't wait...And to top that off he has the most money to spend:mrgreen:. It's going to be interesting, for sure:blsmoke:
 
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