What.....The...Fuck. he's only helping the wounded, shoot him

[CrackerJax]

Is it...?

I would but Keenly knows best.

next time just wait for it.

 

[Keenly2]

Is it...?

I would but Keenly knows best.

next time just wait for it.

your not exactly in any position to make sarcastic "all-knowing" remarks there CJ

 

[Padawanbater2]

Is it...?

I would but Keenly knows best.

next time just wait for it.

What, Keenly speaks for Cracker now?

Answer the question.

You dodge one more time and you prove you're deliberately side stepping it because your dishonest ass knows you can't answer it.

You answer it and you show everyone here reading this thread you're a hypocritical fuck, you skirt it again and you show everyone you're a bitch who can't stand with his own fuckin' opinions. So which is it Cracker? You decide.

 

[1lastGodsend]

its very simple with you americans, you want to kill terrorists to stop them hating you and trying to kill you, everytime u shoot 1 of them some other guy will replace him, then 2 guys to him and so on and so forth. cant you see that to obtain peace through war makes no sense at all, it just means some unlucky people get killed and called "collateral damage".

I rather fucking die taking down some1 who thinks they can punk me then walk away and forever have him think they own me!!! I will not live if the only way i can live is to stand there and shut up because im in some1 elses control. Im a fucking american citizen and when i woke up on 9/11 to watch all those people die we all stood as a fucking nation to watch our people die while the people who planned it and went thru with such a horrible plan sat back with that "fuck yeah im boss" face on all day. FUCK PEACE!! IM WITH AMERICA!

 

[Padawanbater2]

I rather fucking die taking down some1 who thinks they can punk me then walk away and forever have him think they own me!!! I will not live if the only way i can live is to stand there and shut up because im in some1 elses control. Im a fucking american citizen and when i woke up on 9/11 to watch all those people die we all stood as a fucking nation to watch our people die while the people who planned it and went thru with such a horrible plan sat back with that "fuck yeah im boss" face on all day. FUCK PEACE!! IM WITH AMERICA!

Typical American train of thought.

Probably why this country is so fucked up right now.

 

[1lastGodsend]

Look if that would have happened in US soil where a crowd of americans got shot down because they looked like they had weapons then it would be 1 question to make a descicion.
1) do americans cause havoc all day and are known for practicing terrorist acts? - eading to yes shoot em all dead.
2) do americans work hard and follow a strict line of rules? - leading to leave em alone its just a crowd walking.

im trying to say you cant turn this around. america is a stable land. were not fucking crazed idiots walking around killing people cuz fucking god is gona reward us in heaven. or going around fucking trying to buy nuclear weapons to start religious wars. this is a battle ground. irag is a war zone. in a fucking war zone its either kill or be killed.

lets say that fucking chopper would of never engaged that target, they said fuck it let it go and gone on with their patrol and that very same crowd seconds later fires that RPG and kills every single american in the helicopter, what then?????????????????????????????????

and were only putting blame on the guy with the RPG. look my mom used to always say, if your friends are doing drugs thats them, but you know your breaking the law with them weather your using drugs or not because your in that group.
why the fuck would you walk around a warzone with a fucking guy thats carrying an RPG.???? when you could be the man walking with his wife and kid to the market (UN-ARMED)

RPG. helicoptor. thats war.
dog. cat. thats war.
guy planting IED bomb. on road where US troops travel. thats war.
police officer in the middle of the night. guy dressed in all black wont take his hands out of his pocket. thats war.

you got 1 fucking choice your either gona kill, or be killed.

 

[Johnny Retro]

Typical American train of thought.

Probably why this country is so fucked up right now.

Pride in your country is a bad thing now...?

 

[Padawanbater2]

Pride in your country is a bad thing now...?

What exactly do we have to be proud of?

That we live in a country where rich people are pampered and poor people ostracized?

That we wage international wars based on lies that kill thousands (if not millions) of people?

That we spend more on "defense" than every single other nation in the world combined? (and if even a fraction was sacrificed, we could feed the entire world 4 times over)

That our education system is severely lacking and trails other developed countries in mathematics and science?

That 85% of the people here believe in magical invisible beings?

That 65% of people are overweight (with 20% being obese)?

That people are imprisoned for non violent offenses (like smoking weed)?

That a vast majority of the population is almost completely scientifically illiterate?

That people don't even look each other in the face when walking down the street anymore?

That all the citizens don't have equal rights or opportunities in the "land of the free"?

That we wage wars on shit that can never be defeated (like drugs or terrorism)?

That our foreign policy creates more and more terrorists at an exponential rate?


I guess we can be proud of the amount of porn and drugs we produce, that definitely isn't matched!

 

[Johnny Retro]

Just because your country isnt perfect dosent mean you cant have country pride.
Mexicans are the most country loving folks around, why dont you take a look at their resume.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Just because your country isnt perfect dosent mean you cant have country pride.
Mexicans are the most country loving folks around, why dont you take a look at their resume.

I'm proud of the ideals America stands for. I'm proud our founding fathers created the Constitution and declared independence and established America. But there are also things I'm not proud of, that make me ashamed to call myself an American. How can someone say it's "unamerican" or "unpatriotic" to question the things you think are wrong with this great country, and try to make them better? Isn't that the most patriotic thing one could possibly do?

 

[SocataSmoker]

When does it go from "pussy protester" to a person like Gandhi, a man who proposed peace under all circumstances, even in the face of violence?

Or is Gandhi and his teachings something that shouldn't be admired?

I love Gandhi and all he stands for, but his way will never take root... if the UK, France, or any Allied country in WWII thought as Gandhi did, we'd all be speaking German right now and have Hitler the Third as our dictator.

Peace is good... but peace is impossible, too much hate, that is why protesting war is pure idiocy. War is natural, wild animals war with each other all the time, sometimes for months or years, or generations... the same with humans, we are animals, we fight, it's natural.

You see? Might as well get used to it, you will never stop war, you will never bring about world peace, and you will never rid the world of guns, knives, etc... etc... all because there are thousands if not millions of people with more money, more power, more pull in the right asses to make sure it never happens.

Live your life the way it makes you happy, stop worrying about new journalists getting killed because they were hangin' with the wrong group of friends... instead, help your local community, focus on things going on near you. You will make a much bigger impact.

To that, I still say... bring on the towelhead killin and grillin!!!!

Damn I love being American!

And as Gunny signs off with... OOOOORAH!

 

[1lastGodsend]

I love Gandhi and all he stands for, but his way will never take root... if the UK, France, or any Allied country in WWII thought as Gandhi did, we'd all be speaking German right now and have Hitler the Third as our dictator.

Peace is good... but peace is impossible, too much hate, that is why protesting war is pure idiocy. War is natural, wild animals war with each other all the time, sometimes for months or years, or generations... the same with humans, we are animals, we fight, it's natural.

You see? Might as well get used to it, you will never stop war, you will never bring about world peace, and you will never rid the world of guns, knives, etc... etc... all because there are thousands if not millions of people with more money, more power, more pull in the right asses to make sure it never happens.

Live your life the way it makes you happy, stop worrying about new journalists getting killed because they were hangin' with the wrong group of friends... instead, help your local community, focus on things going on near you. You will make a much bigger impact.

To that, I still say... bring on the towelhead killin and grillin!!!!

Damn I love being American!

And as Gunny signs off with... OOOOORAH!

well said. Fuck it smoke up!!

 

[RichiRich]

we weren't discussing anything at all.

we also didn't stir anything up between the tribes...they have been going at it since the big split in Islam many centuries ago. The only reason you didn't see out and out fighting was because they all lived in a dictatorship...and saddam was the one who called the shots....which meant a very small minority of the Baath sect controlled everything.

Where did you go to school?

Yes but what our invasion has done is let 2 caged dogs out into a pit full of other enraged dogs, thus creating a civil war and a shit storm.

Shias and Sunnis hate eachother. That is generally true - in Iraq at least. However, all our invasion did is give them an opportunity to take up arms and start killing each other. It didn't help one bit, and you know that very well.

Look if that would have happened in US soil where a crowd of americans got shot down because they looked like they had weapons then it would be 1 question to make a descicion.
1) do americans cause havoc all day and are known for practicing terrorist acts? - eading to yes shoot em all dead.
2) do americans work hard and follow a strict line of rules? - leading to leave em alone its just a crowd walking.

Completely ridiculous statement.

You're trying to tell me that all Iraqis "cause havoc all day and are known for practicing terrorist acts" ?

And that Iraqis don't work as hard as Americans for a living, and abide by no rules?


Iraqis bust a sweat much more than Americans do, to earn money - it's a 3rd world country.

You like to believe that Iraqis are fucking crazy and love to blow themselves up so you can justify your own terrorism.

Just like Nazis saying that Jews are "inferior" so they can feel good about killing them.

im trying to say you cant turn this around. america is a stable land.

America is a stable land - who told you that?

You have one of the highest crime rates per capita in the world. Surely not the highest, but Iraq comes nowhere near your record.

were not fucking crazed idiots walking around killing people cuz fucking god is gona reward us in heaven. or going around fucking trying to buy nuclear weapons to start religious wars.

Really? Then how come you walk around in Iraq killing people cus Uncle Sam is gonna reward you?

Your explanation works both ways, smart ass.

Just replace "God" with Uncle Sam or George Bush, and it's the exact same thing.

lets say that fucking chopper would of never engaged that target, they said fuck it let it go and gone on with their patrol and that very same crowd seconds later fires that RPG and kills every single american in the helicopter, what then?????????????????????????????????

So what?

American lives are worth more than Iraqi lives? Who gives a shit if that chopper got shot down?

They'd fucking deserve it, if it happened, I tell you that. When you invade someone's country, expect a reaction.

Don't play with matches and then bitch cus you got burned.

you got 1 fucking choice your either gona kill, or be killed.

Good - you got one thing right.

But when an Iraqi says it, you call him a terrorist. Boo hoo.

How pathetic you are. I feel so sorry for you. You, as a human being in the glorious USA, a stable land, deserve a much better education than that. Yet your surroundings, your family, your media and fellow countrymen have let you down.

Pride in your country is a bad thing now...?

Of course it isn't.

Live your life the way it makes you happy, stop worrying about new journalists getting killed because they were hangin' with the wrong group of friends... instead, help your local community, focus on things going on near you. You will make a much bigger impact.

Well, judging from that paragraph, you sure seem like a nice guy.

To that, I still say... bring on the towelhead killin and grillin!!!!

Damn I love being American!

And as Gunny signs off with... OOOOORAH!

Then again.. It still smells like bacon.

-Rich

 

[Padawanbater2]

I love Gandhi and all he stands for, but his way will never take root... if the UK, France, or any Allied country in WWII thought as Gandhi did, we'd all be speaking German right now and have Hitler the Third as our dictator.

Peace is good... but peace is impossible, too much hate, that is why protesting war is pure idiocy. War is natural, wild animals war with each other all the time, sometimes for months or years, or generations... the same with humans, we are animals, we fight, it's natural.

You see? Might as well get used to it, you will never stop war, you will never bring about world peace, and you will never rid the world of guns, knives, etc... etc... all because there are thousands if not millions of people with more money, more power, more pull in the right asses to make sure it never happens.

Live your life the way it makes you happy, stop worrying about new journalists getting killed because they were hangin' with the wrong group of friends... instead, help your local community, focus on things going on near you. You will make a much bigger impact.

To that, I still say... bring on the towelhead killin and grillin!!!!

Damn I love being American!

And as Gunny signs off with... OOOOORAH!

I want you to consider something...

Do you think we would have landed on the moon in 1969 if president Kennedy never gave the speech telling the nation and the rest of the world that we were going to?

Think about what it took to achieve that goal.

Mercury, Gemini, Apollo.. Each took years, each cost lives, and each program cost billions of dollars.

You seem to think I want peace to be achieved overnight. That is why I think your idea of never achieving it is irrational. It's a process, it will take years, decades, maybe even generations, but it's a cause worth pursuing. What cause could be greater? Think of how many countless people have died in warfare throughout human history. Billions. Think of the innocent ones who never agreed to participate in the first place. Billions.

There will always be insane people bent on power and money. But these people are powerful because we make them powerful. We give them control over our lives and they use it to benefit themselves. Only a leader who doesn't make a dollar can be trusted with someone elses life because then it becomes true leadership without a conflict of interest. But when people make money off of the death and destruction, it's anything but leadership. It's corruption at it's finest, at the cost of human lives.

You see it as unattainable, I see it as something we can very easily achieve if we take the right steps.

 

[RichiRich]

I want you to consider something...

Do you think we would have landed on the moon in 1969 if president Kennedy never gave the speech telling the nation and the rest of the world that we were going to?

Think about what it took to achieve that goal.

Mercury, Gemini, Apollo.. Each took years, each cost lives, and each program cost billions of dollars.

You seem to think I want peace to be achieved overnight. That is why I think your idea of never achieving it is irrational. It's a process, it will take years, decades, maybe even generations, but it's a cause worth pursuing. What cause could be greater? Think of how many countless people have died in warfare throughout human history. Billions. Think of the innocent ones who never agreed to participate in the first place. Billions.

There will always be insane people bent on power and money. But these people are powerful because we make them powerful. We give them control over our lives and they use it to benefit themselves. Only a leader who doesn't make a dollar can be trusted with someone elses life because then it becomes true leadership without a conflict of interest. But when people make money off of the death and destruction, it's anything but leadership. It's corruption at it's finest, at the cost of human lives.

You see it as unattainable, I see it as something we can very easily achieve if we take the right steps.

I'll raise my glass to that.

Cheers.

-Rich

 

[RichiRich]

US soldier apologises for attack on Iraq families



-Rich