Global Warming Update

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
yesterday i was ready to go to the lake, today i wished i had my long johns back on. fuck this climate change. :cuss:
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
Just up the I-5 in Oregon, I am growing pumpkins on my balcony. In February. It got up to 79 degrees on my south facing balcony today. I do believe we are seeing an El Nino pattern this year...
 

abe23

Active Member

just so you guys know i was a democrate until September 11th, 2001


when i realized Clinton had failed us. What a coward he was.

didnt wanna fuck with osama after he beat us up a couple times, he wanted to pass the buck, was afraid it would hurt his polls to do whats right


he passed the buck, he passed it to all the people who died that day,



i was really hurt by that, i even wondered if Clinton had a good reason for not kill osama when he had him offered on a silver platter

the only thing i could come up with is that he didnt want to stir the hornets nest


but maybe that was the excuse he gave himself in his head


UNFORGIVABLE
Seriously? That's your response?

I say it's not about politics, but rather about preserving our greatest national treasure and you start talking about bill clinton and 9/11? I'll be glad to have that debate, but that's not even remotely related to anything we're talking about.

I believe in conserving the environment the best we can. We have an opportunity to do that AND make a shitload of money and grow the economy. But you're too caught up in politics to understand that. Too bad...
 
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PadawanBater

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...as to that "no global warming since 1995" bit... Do your research.
 
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Illegal Smile

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Seriously? That's your response?

I say it's not about politics, but rather about preserving our greatest national treasure and you start talking about bill clinton and 9/11? I'll be glad to have that debate, but that's not even remotely related to anything we're talking about.

I believe in conserving the environment the best we can. We have an opportunity to do that AND make a shitload of money and grow the economy. But you're too caught up in politics to understand that. Too bad...
Can you briefly describe what you mean by conserving the environment? Also explain the misunderstood opportunity for the big win win?
 

CrackerJax

New Member
There hasn't been any VERIFIABLE global warming since 1995 ... I've done my research.

There has been CORRUPTED data that says it's been warming ... but that is all suspect now.

By the way...the guy saying that has been a MAJOR proponent of global waring. But you know more than he does eh? No.... he's just able to admit his mistakes ... and you are not.
 

Sustainable420

Active Member
Seriously? That's your response?

I say it's not about politics, but rather about preserving our greatest national treasure and you start talking about bill clinton and 9/11? I'll be glad to have that debate, but that's not even remotely related to anything we're talking about.

I believe in conserving the environment the best we can. We have an opportunity to do that AND make a shitload of money and grow the economy. But you're too caught up in politics to understand that. Too bad...
I agree, if the US could be energy dependent then the sky is the limit.
 

BigTitLvr

Well-Known Member
Agreed x3. Why should we let China and India get all the money off green tech? Americans can find a better cheaper way to go sustainable and make a crapshitload of money in the meantime
But they're not trying. They want more of the same. Obama just agreed to 8 billion dollars to subsidize another republican owned nuclear power company. Socialism for the rich. Get it: McCain, Obama...it doesn't matter who the President is. The money in this country get what they want from their puppets.

So where is the clean energy? Still waiting.

I actually don't have a big problem with nuclear, which is clean energy...if it doesn't melt down. I'm putting my trust in the scientists on this one; better then putting your trust in religion or god. But mechanical failures do occur which can be bad.

But I'm disappointed that solar power has not been utilized to it's full potential. I recently had a solar power company come to my office selling their wares; wanting my custom home company to design panels into our houses. I was dismayed to hear him freely admit that solar panel technology is essentially unchanged for 40 years. It is still just 15% efficiency from the solar cells. In 40 years?! What hasn't changed in 40 years?! Who's holding back these advancements?
 
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PadawanBater

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Who's holding back these advancements?
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There's only one answer to that question.

Competitors. Whose the number one competitor to alternative energy?...
 

CrackerJax

New Member
But they're not trying. They want more of the same. Obama just agreed to 8 billion dollars to subsidize another republican owned nuclear power company. Socialism for the rich. Get it: McCain, Obama...it doesn't matter who the President is. The money in this country get what they want from their puppets.

So where is the clean energy? Still waiting.

I actually don't have a big problem with nuclear, which is clean energy...if it doesn't melt down. I'm putting my trust in the scientists on this one; better then putting your trust in religion or god. But mechanical failures do occur which can be bad.

But I'm disappointed that solar power has not been utilized to it's full potential. I recently had a solar power company come to my office selling their wares; wanting my custom home company to design panels into our houses. I was dismayed to hear him freely admit that solar panel technology is essentially unchanged for 40 years. It is still just 15% efficiency from the solar cells. In 40 years?! What hasn't changed in 40 years?! Who's holding back these advancements?

1.) Nuclear power is the cleanest energy BY FAR. The only melt down that has occurred over in the Soviet Union, nowhere else.

2. Solar power just isn't efficient enough. You also set up another environmental problem of all those batteries.... millions of them.

Solar is a viable option ... but not in the near future.
 
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Illegal Smile

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We are having global warming today which is melting the global warming we had over the last couple weeks.
 

ANC

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hmm, can it be the northern half? That seems to be where all the prohibition laws originate from....
 

Shiela

Member
People should be educated more about the ill effects of global warming. Sure, they know that it's threatening and it is happening; however, it never sink into to them the degree of threats and the nearness of "now-it-is-happening." There should also be more pro-active actions in order to address this concern.
 
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