Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

OregonMeds

OregonMeds

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woodds said:
I have one questions for everyone...What about demonic forces and satanic beings seen around the world..They certainly do exist..So why cant other such spiritual beings also exist???
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They aren't real man, you just want to think they are. All those shows are for entertainment.

They're delicious as snacks though:
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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woodds said:
I have one questions for everyone...What about demonic forces and satanic beings seen around the world..They certainly do exist..So why cant other such spiritual beings also exist???
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Now some won't see the hysterically funny dry wit here.....
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morgentaler

morgentaler

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woodds said:
I have one questions for everyone...What about demonic forces and satanic beings seen around the world..They certainly do exist..So why cant other such spiritual beings also exist???
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You've made the claim, now prove they exist using the scientific method.

You know, the method that gave you computers, nuclear power, missions to mars, the cures for smallpox, polio, etc., and allowed the development of dozens of strains of weed.

If you argue against science in support of that superstitious bullshit you are free to strip down naked and go live off bugs and seeds in the desert, where you can be free from the knowledge gathered by people who live in the real world.
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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morgentaler said:
What about it? It's religion. It's not science.



And what scientists would that be? Certainly not cellular biologists.
Let's just assume that without naming any scientists in particular that you are a big fat liar.


Intelligent design is the only choice for someone who puts not value in scientific research, but prefers child molesters and con men to educate them in the workings of the world.




You don't even understand what evolution is. Evolution began when time began. It's not limited to biological entities. Evolution is change over time, whether in organisms or molecules.
Interactions between elements on the surface of the cooling earth led to the formation of simple molecules, which in time led to the formation of more complex molecules, some of which were stable and continued to exist, while others were unstable and had a brief existence. Those molecules which lasted in turn gained additional information by interaction with other molecules.

You're likely trying to say "Scientists don't know how life on Earth began! They don't have proof!"

No, they can only extrapolate from the data they have, such as molecular complexity, the formation of amino acids, experiments in proteins and enzymes, environmental factors, etc. The higher probability lies with a natural event, but they can not discount the possibility of life coming from offworld in the form of a single cell organism in a meteorite, or even a seeding program by a theoretical offworld life form. They do not state that any potentiality is the absolute truth because there isn't enough data to make a claim yet.

Unlike intelligent design, which says "God did it. Yes, God. What are you talking about, proof? It's God! God doesn't need proof! Look, a duck! Can't you see the god?! It's right there, in the duckiness of the thing! No no, put down that microscope! DNA proves nothing! Endogenous Retroviruses? What are those? We don't know what they are so they must not be relevant! God God God! La La La I can't hear you unless you're praying to Kent Hovind's wallet!"
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Listen I watched a special on it the other night,saw 3 scientists lock up on the question of how cellular life originated.I am by no means religous.I dont lie either there is no gain in lying about what was on tv.I dont believe any any of these theories and could give a fuck less.Just wanted to throw it out there because i dont understand it.When ya went out there with the child molesters and con men you really lashed for no reason,I am not in an argument with anyone so suck my nut Morgen.:finger:
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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hydrotech364 said:
Listen I watched a special on it the other night,saw 3 scientists lock up on the question of how cellular life originated.I am by no means religous.I dont lie either there is no gain in lying about what was on tv.I dont believe any any of these theories and could give a fuck less.Just wanted to throw it out there because i dont understand it.When ya went out there with the child molesters and con men you really lashed for no reason,I am not in an argument with anyone so suck my nut Morgen.:finger:
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And what's your "special".
Was it an intelligent design show with an agenda? Let's see the name of it, so we can see just who it was that bamboozled the scientists.

You just made an argument for intelligent design so you are either completely ignorant of what intelligent design and evolution are, or you're a liar.

Presenting intelligent design as having validity is offensive to anyone who prefers academia and thought over sky-gods and mystic prayer rituals.

Intelligent design is straight-up biblical creationism with a new name tagged on it because creationism was already blocked from being forced on children in public schools. It brings nothing new to the table. There is no academic evidence, no fossil collection, no DNA analysis. It is presupposition of biblical creationism as fact without analysis.

And as for claiming to be "non-religious", then why are you spouting Christian creationist propaganda?
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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I'm the A typical non believer.The show was on Natgeo I think.The interviewer was Mr Ben Stein.Too rich to be stupid.There is that fucking LIAR word again you dont know me for shit so if you wish to make a personal attack do it in a PM.When was I spouting anything i proposed a view that I didnt understand.That is how we learn.I think you will be the 1st person Ive ignored in the years I have been here out of all the greazy pieces of shit met here.You earned it though.The documentary is called Expelled.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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hydrotech364 said:
I'm the A typical non believer.The show was on Natgeo I think.The interviewer was Mr Ben Stein.Too rich to be stupid.There is that fucking LIAR word again you dont know me for shit so if you wish to make a personal attack do it in a PM.When was I spouting anything i proposed a view that I didnt understand.That is how we learn.I think you will be the 1st person Ive ignored in the years I have been here out of all the greazy pieces of shit met here.You earned it though.The documentary is called Expelled.
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Expelled is not a documentary.
It's a creationist propaganda movie. The academics interviewed for the movie were lied to about what it was.

See, I don't really care if you ignore me or not. When people have brought up Intelligent Design and claimed they are non-Christian in the past, they have invariably started spouting biblical bullshit in the days and weeks that follow.

If you're not a liar for Jesus, you didn't at least look into Intelligent Design other than to watch Ben Stein and his ridiculous video, and you apparently haven't bothered to read the very thread you posted in.

So, no, I'm not going to hold your hand and coach you through life, Sparky.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Intelligent design is a perfect fit with the church. They both start out with a lie.

ID is not a science...... it does not belong in any category with science. In the end, it is faith based and sourced.
 
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woodds

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morgentaler said:
You've made the claim, now prove they exist using the scientific method.

You know, the method that gave you computers, nuclear power, missions to mars, the cures for smallpox, polio, etc., and allowed the development of dozens of strains of weed.

If you argue against science in support of that superstitious bullshit you are free to strip down naked and go live off bugs and seeds in the desert, where you can be free from the knowledge gathered by people who live in the real world.
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why is it that it has to be solved with scientific method..i would not know how to prove such happenings but my not knowing does not mean there is no scientific way to prove it.My only suggestion is that you try it out for yourself(by it I mean speaking to demonic beings and so forth.)
 
OregonMeds

OregonMeds

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Yea Morgen put your money where your mouth is and try talking to some demonic beings, you'll hear what he hears and that will finally shut you up! :)

That's a psychological medical condition in desperate need of medication. Go talk to your doctor instead of demons.
 
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