Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

rbahadosingh

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So you think that flowering at 3-4" would give me the 12" finished height that I'm looking for, correct?
depending on the strain bob. honestly though i think if you flower at that height they would finigh shorter than a foot. maybe not much shorter. but pretty close to a foot. i would say flower at 6".
 

Bob Smith

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depending on the strain bob. honestly though i think if you flower at that height they would finigh shorter than a foot. maybe not much shorter. but pretty close to a foot. i would say flower at 6".
Gotcha - BTW, not even sure a foot is doable at 9/sf; might have to shoot more for 9-10".

Regardless, gonna flower at ~3" (as of now) and see what that gets me.

Got everything I need to setup the CO2 generator except for a propane tank (they don't sell after 7:00pm), so I'm heading back there today to get it and get to mounting this bitch.
 

Bob Smith

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Integra you're gonna love this............picked up a trellis last night while at Home Depot, and am gonna use it in my flowering tent - it's a necessity, they're just way too tall at this moment in time.

Gonna pull it down over them (brute force style, but trying not to break anything), and try to lower it a couple of inches a day until it's ~15" below the light.

Figure I can't screw up this harvest much more, so might as well.

Also, you guys are gonna laugh when you see the ducting part I picked up from Home Depot - I knew it was perfect for the generator, but it seriously almost seems like it's custom-made for the job.

Whereas some are masters of the plumbing aisle, I am a God of the ducting aisle.
 

smokingrubber

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Got everything I need to setup the CO2 generator except for a propane tank (they don't sell after 7:00pm), so I'm heading back there today to get it and get to mounting this bitch.
I don't know how familiar you are with buying propane tanks? When you get them brand new they must be purged of the inert gas they shipped with. This can usually only be done at the mothership propane dealer. You can try to take it to the gas station to fill it, but they will turn you away if you have a virgin tank.

Look in the yellow pages for a big propane dealer and buy there. They'll usually waive the purge charge if you're buying their tanks. Just thought I would save you a bunch of driving around if you've never dealt with new tanks. Maybe shit goes down different on the east coast but thats what Californians gotta deal with.

You could, of course, buy a couple used ones from the swap out spot and you wouldn't have to worry about purging them.
 

Bob Smith

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I don't know how familiar you are with buying propane tanks? When you get them brand new they must be purged of the inert gas they shipped with. This can usually only be done at the mothership propane dealer. You can try to take it to the gas station to fill it, but they will turn you away if you have a virgin tank.

Look in the yellow pages for a big propane dealer and buy there. They'll usually waive the purge charge if you're buying their tanks. Just thought I would save you a bunch of driving around if you've never dealt with new tanks. Maybe shit goes down different on the east coast but thats what Californians gotta deal with.

You could, of course, buy a couple used ones from the swap out spot and you wouldn't have to worry about purging them.
Not an expert by any means, but do have a propane barbecue, and didn't have any issues when I bought a new tank for it last year (and since then have been getting that refilled, $15 and a one minute drive away).
 

Bob Smith

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So, this is what it looks like when your plants are growing up into your filter and you realize (about two weeks too late) that you need to put a screen in there to control height:

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The first pic is where you can tell the difference - that plant was growing up and past the wrong side of the filter, so it's been brought down ~8 inches so far - again, gonna try and bring it down an inch or two a day for the next week, then start tying the buds down to the trellis with twist ties. I'm actually kinda pleased with it, seems like I didn't break any branches (so far).

Now here's the generator stuff (been dragging my feet on getting the ladder out to do the install):

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The first two are the piece of ducting which I knew would be perfect - it's the EXACT perfect size, fits like it was made for the job.

The next two show that even though it was only supposed to come with one burner (producing 3 cubic feet an hour of CO2), they shipped me one with four burners (which produces 13 cubic feet an hour).

Oopsies on their part.
 

Integra21

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nice luck with the upgraded burner. And looks like you did a great job with the initial scrog. It's a lot easier than it seems, right? Glad you already know about the twist ties, they truely are the greatest weapon in a Scroger's arsenal. My advice to you is to get the screen down about 6-8in below where you want the top of the branches to be over the next week and let 6-8 inches of the tips stick through. That way every branch will become an 8in cola. Even though you are already weeks into flower, you will probly notice the side and smaller branches start to grow considerably in the next 2 weeks. And I have to say, for you first time doing it, that is a real even canopy. I am truly impressed. I have always enjoyed your grow, but I have a feeling I will enjoy watching it unfold even more now.
 

smokingrubber

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cha-ching - fatty upgrade on the burners! Too bad that'll create a bunch of heat. I would run it outside the tent and monitor the amount of heat it puts off before you duct it into your flower room. Is there a way to use only 1 burner?

Sweet find on the ducting!
 

Bob Smith

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nice luck with the upgraded burner. And looks like you did a great job with the initial scrog. It's a lot easier than it seems, right? Glad you already know about the twist ties, they truely are the greatest weapon in a Scroger's arsenal. My advice to you is to get the screen down about 6-8in below where you want the top of the branches to be over the next week and let 6-8 inches of the tips stick through. That way every branch will become an 8in cola. Even though you are already weeks into flower, you will probly notice the side and smaller branches start to grow considerably in the next 2 weeks. And I have to say, for you first time doing it, that is a real even canopy. I am truly impressed. I have always enjoyed your grow, but I have a feeling I will enjoy watching it unfold even more now.
Yeah, gonna have to pull it down slowly but surely over the next week - also going to have to move some plants around to better space them out - the biggest ones all seem to be on the left wall (when facing the tent), so they need to be spaced a bit better.

Also not sure if I'm going to be able to get the screen low enough for the plants in the middle to be able to reach it - the massive empty spot right in the middle? Those are the "late" clones that I took (about six days before flipping to 12/12, which means that in all likelihood they didn't even have roots down when flowering commenced.

Oh well, time will tell, but I can say with some certainty that SCROG certainly seems to be the best method to salvage what I can from this go-round.

Also should mention, noticed today that the buds have started packing on some weight - there was noticeably more then yesterday - a function of time and also the trimming of the lower budsites, methinks.
 

Bob Smith

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So I popped five of each of the new strains - AK-48, Master Kush, and Ice.

Threw them in a glass of water at 11:21 EST tonight, so they should be ready to transplant first thing Saturday morning.

Said "fuck it", no sense in doing one at a time.
 

Hulk Nugs

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It's amazing how Jack Daniels clears my head up....................

Second that!!

Setup looks great, put allot of time and work into getting it how you want, always makes you feel great to stand back and say i did that!!!

I will be watching keep the updates coming.
 

laserbrn

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Second that!!

Setup looks great, put allot of time and work into getting it how you want, always makes you feel great to stand back and say i did that!!!

I will be watching keep the updates coming.
Sorry it took me so long to drop this journal. I know we've been in a lot of the same discussions and I've seen your shit alot. I'm going to read this entire thing (68 pages, fuck) and get all caught up. I clicked on it a few times and saw how long it was and didn't have the time. When I get home tonight I'll go through the whole thing and check it out, it's like getting to watch in fast forward, that's nice.
 

Bob Smith

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Sorry it took me so long to drop this journal. I know we've been in a lot of the same discussions and I've seen your shit alot. I'm going to read this entire thing (68 pages, fuck) and get all caught up. I clicked on it a few times and saw how long it was and didn't have the time. When I get home tonight I'll go through the whole thing and check it out, it's like getting to watch in fast forward, that's nice.
Very nice to have you, my friend :mrgreen:

And yes, the journal is pretty lengthy (lots of mistakes along the way) - a decent way to mitigate that is to do what I've done, which is to set your viewing at 40 posts per page - makes things go a lot, lot faster.

It's under My Rollitup, Edit Options, and then it's about 3/4 of the way down the page.

I'd highly recommend that to everyone - it's made my life much, much easier in all threads that I read.

Also, got the 100 additional 3.5" pots and their holders delivered today, as well as a tank of propane for my generator.

Mounted the 4" inline on the ceiling of my garage, but then this hangover headache was too much to deal with, so I quit for the day - shooting to be setup by tomorrow and at least running tests of the system.

Finally, my girl got her official offer today, so we're thinking about smoking tonight for the first time in almost a month - I'm actually nervous, believe it or not - it's been so long, will probably just take a hit and see how that goes for an hour before really starting to puff down (just got back from dinner/drinking, and weed and an alcohol buzz don't mix too well for me, usually).

Well, that's about all I can think of right now - I know I'm forgetting something, will post it when I remember it.

P.S. - don't play large online poker games drunk - lost $2K last night like a donkey.

EDIT: remembered what I forgot - the thermostat controller (for my fan cooling my 1000HPS in my flowering tent) got delivered today - sometimes it gets too cold in there, and I need a way to turn the light cooling fan off so that I don't need to have the heater in there come on and waste boku electricity.

Pics:

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Also just checked on the beans, not one has popped thus far - would've expected at least a few to be out by now (21 hours), but I'm not gonna start getting worried/annoyed until tomorrow morning.
 

wonderblunder

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Everytime I hear about this online Poker I feel like asking you about it. 2k loss? Im better off not knowing! I am a gambler as well though
 

Bob Smith

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Everytime I hear about this online Poker I feel like asking you about it. 2k loss? Im better off not knowing! I am a gambler as well though
FullTiltPoker.com* - would tell you my screen name, but that's too much of a security risk, unfortunately :-(

Anyways, we're snowed in here, so I'm gonna try to get some work done and finish up with the CO2 installation.

The beans are popping at various rates (we're at 36 hours, thus far) - all five Ice have popped (1/4" roots coming out), 2 of the AK have popped, and 0 of the Master Kush have popped - weakness.

Need to install that fan thermostat ASAP, just went out there and the heater is running.

* Bob Smith assumes no liability for any losses, real or imagined, that occur from becoming addicted to online poker. Proceed at your own risk,
 

Bob Smith

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Installed the temp controller on my air-cooled fan - for $35, will probably save me that much in electricity in a month from the heater not having to run concurrently with my 1K on cold days:

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Set the fan to come on at 75, so that's all gravy.

Also took some fresh pics of the flowering ladies, here they are:

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And finally, here's a few pics of the Ice seeds (transplanting into Rapid Rooters today):

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Gonna mount this generator today if I get the time, we'll see.
 
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