Atheism

[morgentaler]

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The founding fathers knew, self governance is required in a free society, or Corruption and lawlessness (anarchy). become the order of the day.

And they knew that theocracies are corrupt and dangerous, which is why they worded in the separation of church and state.

Of course you want prayer back in school, but you want it to be *your* prayer, for your specific sect.

Oh I could just see the fits had if Christian children went to school and spent their prayer time appeasing Jupiter on the Mount.

Canada is less religious and has significantly less crime.

European countries with higher percentages of atheism also have less crime and a higher standard of living.

The US has more people per capita in prison than any other country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

The US has 70 percent of people identifying as Christian, yet has more religious people per capita in prisons than atheists.

Why would that be? Is religion not living up to it's promise of increased morality?

I guess it helped slave owners in the south justify the keeping of other humans as property, since the bible allows for that.

Does terrorizing children with threats of eternal hellfire really make them a good person? If you're only a good person because of the dictates of your religion, then you're not a good person at all, you're a sycophant trying to weasel your way to eternal reward.

But I digress.

As the saying goes: Don't pray in our schools, and we won't think in your churches.

 

[Babs34]

Yes, I DO love good people.

Florida Court Sets Atheist Holy Day | The Fillmore Gazette

In Florida, an atheist created a case against the upcoming Easter & Passover holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a discrimination case against Christians, Jews & observances of their holy days. The argument was....it was unfair that atheists had no such recognized day(s).
The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the passionate presentation by the lawyer, the judge banged his gavel declaring, “Case dismissed.” The lawyer immediately stood objecting to the ruling saying, “Your honor, how can you possibly dismiss this case? The Christians have Christmas, Easter & others. The Jews have Passover, Yom Kippur & Hanukkah. Yet my client and all other atheists have no such holidays.” The judge leaned forward in his chair saying, “But you do. Your client, counsel, is woefully ignorant.” The lawyer said, “Your Honor, we are unaware of any special observance or holiday for atheists.” The judge said. The calendar says April 1st is April Fools Day. Psalm 14:1 states, “The fool says in his heart, there is no God.” Thus, it is the opinion of this court, that if your client says there is no God, then he is a fool. Therefore, April 1st is his day. Court is adjourned.

 

[morgentaler]

For those who seem to think it's imperative to force prayer back into schools:
Since you have no regard for the constitutional separation of church and state, you might want to consider seceding from the US so that you can start your own country and draft up your own constitution.

When it's ready, please post it here. I think it would be very entertaining to see a political document scribed with random punctuation, capitalization, and font sizes, and self-contradicting passages littered throughout.

 

[morgentaler]

Oh, how cute! Babs is using urban legends as proof again!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/atheist.asp

Thanks for the laugh, Babs. I can just imagine how many people have you filtered to go directly to the junk mail folder when your emails arrive.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Oh, how cute! Babs is using urban legends as proof again!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/atheist.asp

Thanks for the laugh, Babs. I can just imagine how many people have you filtered to go directly to the junk mail folder when your emails arrive.

Ah ha ha ha ha ha!

It all makes sense now.

Do you suppose she wonders why the Navy refuses to rescue those seven stranded castaways on Gilligan's Island?

 

[Babs34]

It shows that almost exclusively... ppl with higher IQ's kow better...

One causality would be the smarter you are, the more control you have over ur personal environment.

Easy answers are like ornaments on a tree. Glittery but not much real purpose. It's the tree of knowledge which is the true goal, not the ornaments which are hung there by others.

"so".....figure it out genius, btw, my IQ far exceeds 98----even with the holes in the brain.

You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

 

[Babs34]

Ah ha ha ha ha ha!

It all makes sense now.

Do you suppose she wonders why the Navy refuses to rescue those seven stranded castaways on Gilligan's Island?

hehe, prove it.

 

[Babs34]

What you don't get and always fail to see is the simple logic put forth your way.
That IS what you want....a movement enforced to show recognition for your beliefs, your almighty way of "teaching" others, RECOGNITION for your role in society.
All of the "proof" is right here among these ridiculous atheist threads alone.
I needn't say any more, LOL, HAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[Babs34]

As the saying goes: Don't pray in our schools, and we won't think in your churches.

Think outside of the box.

 

[morgentaler]

If CJ and Babs would like to go toe-to-toe on an IQ test I can probably find one that allows comparisons.
I'd recommend using a throwaway email address when taking them though because of the spam potential.
It would be interesting to see the results.

 

[morgentaler]

Think outside of the box.

That's what everyone who stays home does while you're in church.

 

[Babs34]

ridiculous conterclaim.......NEXT.

 

[morgentaler]

I'm still waiting for your defense of religion that states Bill Gates will give you a thousand dollars for every email you forward.
Right after the one that states having a long lost relative in Nigeria with money in trust for you is proof of Jesus.

 

[Babs34]

I'm still waiting for you to realize that God isn't a debate.
Case dismissed.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

hehe, prove it.

Prove what? That Morgentaler is capable of supposition?

But if you refer to your gullibility, it is apparent for all to see.

Zombie saviors and urban legends are proof enough.

 

[CrackerJax]

Babs is now at defcon 4 .. no more debate may be allowed.

Nothing has to be proven. Myths may not be questioned.

Religion has all the answers already.

 

[Babs34]

Debate amongst yourselves CJ.....tis your prerogative.
I clearly stated that God, NOT religion, is not a debate.
Your myth is the genuine genious you see as yourself.
Leave me out of your debate. Thanks......The End

 

[CrackerJax]

There is no evidence of G*D at all..... no point of origin has ever been established beyond myth. Science will one day find out the truth, but not in our life times. And that's okay....

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Debate amongst yourselves CJ.....tis your prerogative.
I clearly stated that God, NOT religion, is not a debate.
Your myth is the genuine genious you see as yourself.
Leave me out of your debate. Thanks......The End

So you want no part of the debate, yet you feel compelled to dictate to us which topic is off limits.

God is highly debatable and has been since man created him.

 

[CrackerJax]

Exactly G*D didn't create man.... it's the other way around.