Atheism

morgentaler · Oct 22, 2009

Took you quite a few words to say you don't have a leg to stand on.

PadawanBater · Oct 22, 2009

Mauihund said:
Been there! Bought the bobble head monkey doll.

Says who?

And, it's my understanding this thread is where atheists are suppose to show what a better religion........... sorry..... system of thought it is to say G*d does not exist.

So far, you all are failing miserably.

So, I don't have to prove shit! If you want to change the subject, start another thread. I won't promise I'll attend.

Really dude, how many times and in how many different ways does someone need to explain to you what atheism is?

Atheism is "I do not believe in God" it's also "I do not know if God exists". Both of those stances are ATHEISM.

I don't really know how much more clear I can make it. Find me an atheist who says "God does not exist". I challenge you to find me ONE ATHEIST who holds that position. Most atheists hold the position of "I don't know if God exists" with varying degrees of "certainty".

You are attacking a position NOBODY HERE HOLDS, and EVERYONE HERE AGREES WOULD BE ILLOGICAL. Do you understand that? :wall:

Also, you are a coward, I asked you specifically what you believed, and you still couldn't answer it. That is pathetic.

BackwoodAssasin · Oct 22, 2009

Hey guys, don't mean to just jump in, but I wanted to add my two cents. First off, I thought that being agnostic was the the idea of uncertainty, and atheism was the belief of no god. I could be mixed up a bit, on with the show. I don't classify myself as anything but a human being. Putting labels on peoples beliefs just groups them together to form sides of an unendable fight. It has been going on for a LONG time! "My god is the real god, yours is not real" - "There is no god, you people are wasting your lives". I could go on with the banter between groups indefinitely. There is no way for one group to win over the other, yet they wage global wars trying to beat their belief system into others. Being part of any side of this is detrimental to the individuals involved, because it takes away from free thinking. People start to believe what other people on their side say, even if they didn't agree with it originally just to try to help prove their side. It's all relative and individuality is what makes us the wonderfully diverse population we are. Do we really want to group everyone together and take that away? Just a thought.

Babs34 · Oct 22, 2009

PadawanBater said:
I do not know if God exists.

I've never, not once, not ever said "God does not exist".

-seriously, what do you not understand about that?

It's a seven word sentence... nothing could be more simple. (except maybe Babs)

You do continue to project.
Simple is not understanding the very simplex explanations we believers have handed you repeatedly.
No matter how many times you receive the common answer, you still keep asking the same damn question....keep trying. Ritalin perhaps?
Your goal is to teach us something.
LMAO.
Keep trying.

Babs34 · Oct 22, 2009

Mauihund said:
The world does not revolve around you. I could just picture you on the ground throwing a tantrum as you said this.

"I wan't! I wan't! I wan't! What about me! I'm such a victim! They have to change thier beliefs first before I can't enjoy my life!" (That's really the point, isn't it)

No one's ever called me a bible thumper before. You make me smile.

Oh, no! You found me out!

I'm not ranting. I just have no intention of letting a bunch of evolved monkeys tell me how to think and believe. Keep your religion and your beliefs to your self.

"We are the champions, my friend! And we'll keep on fighting, till the end!" Come on, join me in singing.

That was a powerful rally cry. When the smoke clears at the end of the day, atheists will stand proud and declare to the world "I told you so." Real honorable.

Agreed. But, it's not my ten commandments. It's God's. What have I said that would make you believe it was mine?

Thirty seconds later....my point.
No one's ever called me a bible thumper before. You make me smile. :mrgreen:

You and other atheists "Defense" is a fabrication that looks good to further your supposed case.
Lies and fairy tales don't cut it babe.
You cannot backup your BS you constantly accuse others of.

Mauihund · Oct 22, 2009

BackwoodAssasin said:
Hey guys, don't mean to just jump in, but I wanted to add my two cents. First off, I thought that being agnostic was the the idea of uncertainty, and atheism was the belief of no god. I could be mixed up a bit, on with the show. I don't classify myself as anything but a human being. Putting labels on peoples beliefs just groups them together to form sides of an unendable fight. It has been going on for a LONG time! "My god is the real god, yours is not real" - "There is no god, you people are wasting your lives". I could go on with the banter between groups indefinitely. There is no way for one group to win over the other, yet they wage global wars trying to beat their belief system into others. Being part of any side of this is detrimental to the individuals involved, because it takes away from free thinking. People start to believe what other people on their side say, even if they didn't agree with it originally just to try to help prove their side. It's all relative and individuality is what makes us the wonderfully diverse population we are. Do we really want to group everyone together and take that away? Just a thought.

Good thoughts.

I never had the chance to get really angry in this thread, though. Nothing was ever well stated, just a bunch of name calling. And then their was their arguments! Ha! :eyesmoke:

I don't buy into the "can't we all just get along" approach. How is it anyone changes if there are no arguments? Life is filled with strife, and it exists because that's how life moves forward. Otherwise, Marie Osmond would still be fat. Or, everyone would love Odrama.

morgentaler · Oct 22, 2009

Actually, they don't have to look far at all.

I am certain "God" does not exist. No more real than Santa Claus or the tooth fairy.

I don't eliminate Einstein's or Hawking's metaphors, but thanks to Christianities views of other gods I've been tipped from 99.9 to 100% when it comes to the lovable Yahweh.

PadawanBater said:
Find me an atheist who says "God does not exist". I challenge you to find me ONE ATHEIST who holds that position. Most atheists hold the position of "I don't know if God exists" with varying degrees of "certainty".

You are attacking a position NOBODY HERE HOLDS, and EVERYONE HERE AGREES WOULD BE ILLOGICAL. Do you understand that?

Also, you are a coward, I asked you specifically what you believed, and you still couldn't answer it. That is pathetic.

Mauihund · Oct 22, 2009

Babs34 said:
Thirty seconds later....my point.
No one's ever called me a bible thumper before. You make me smile.
You and other atheists "Defense" is a fabrication that looks good to further your supposed case.
Lies and fairy tales don't cut it babe.
You cannot backup your BS you constantly accuse others of.

Huh? I'm not atheist. I have a spirit.

edit: Never mind.

BackwoodAssasin · Oct 22, 2009

I wasn't exactly saying, "can't we all just get along". I know that will never happen, it's human nature. I also don't want anyone to think I'm some hippie pacifist. All I was really saying was don't buy into other people's BS. Figure it out on your own using EDUCATED thought and fuck all the haters. The bible was a fictional novel wrote many years ago that was transformed into a means to control the general population and religious figureheads use it to leach off of weak minded people.

Babs34 · Oct 22, 2009

Don't let that post confuse you.
I'm merely using your words from an earlier post to show P how repetitive the question and answer series works with him.
No one's ever called me a bible thumper before. You make me smile. :mrgreen:

Neither of us has exhibited being the Bible thumper....just lies for his ridiculous defense.

JimmyPot · Oct 22, 2009

I don't believe in a great creator.Its weird how holy rollers always say how could this world come from nothing?They can't ever answer,How did the god who created this world come from. nothing?

Babs34 · Oct 22, 2009

Here's your proof C*J......you are childish. You really should stay offline for at least a few hours a day.
It's making you nutty.

Atheism 10-21-2009 03:04 PMHere's your proof! Enjoy!!

Brazko · Oct 22, 2009

JimmyPot said:
I don't believe in a great creator.Its weird how holy rollers always say how could this world come from nothing?They can't ever answer,How did the god who created this world come from. nothing?

I believe your statment to be true in a essence of sense towards the Holy Molly Rollers...

but on another NOte.. Quantum Physics + the Anomaly/Theory of being able to REtrieve DAta/infromation back from blackholes gives us an insight on how nothing can come from Nothing.. It's All Science Baby....

but on another point, a Weak minded one.., Yes, the Holy Moly Believers and the Holy Moly Deniers....., FAiL

Babs34 · Oct 22, 2009

Hey, whatever it takes to soothe your lonely soul.

Babs34 · Oct 22, 2009

Don't ever demand apologies from me.
You have proven yourself a pompous ass here and numerous other places throughout RIU.
Live with what's real.
After all C*J, you only have ONE life to live, right?
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