Has Anyone Complained to a Seed Company about Duds?

[THE PIRATE]

I have said that same basic thing many times. There are strains that to many here seem to be old and obsolete and outdated and because of they the new ones have to be better so the old ones drop in sales and also over time in price but their genetic quality has not dropped, they are still as good today as they ever were and much to the amazement of some they can be as good to even way better than the hot ticket flavor of the month that most everyone is drooling over.
　
The other one is newer strains that just are not yet well known or may have been around a while but while still very good sound reliable strains never hit the top three so they never gained the recognition they deserve or the following that should go with it so their prices are low.
　
Some people are only out for Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride but if someone has a specific need or purpose or just preference to fill and that is their main, number one and only goal there are some really good deals to be found and some include some in the very lowest levels of pricing and many in the lower middle to upper middle pricing range.
　
You do not have to pay through the nose to get something you actually need though it is likely in many cases you may have to pay through the nose to get something you only want.

Very well put BT, i like reading what you have to say in most threads, i wish there was more like you !
Am not into that rep'ing shit but i respect your many coments.

 

[Jester88]

Ive had emails from Attitude saying if i sent for seeds from them they are sure i would enjoy my experience with them, i think they just play it cool as they never know who they are talking too online with emails.
I did call PUKKA seeds one time to complain cos i got 7 results from 10 abut 2 were male, the guy was very cool on the phone and sent out over $300 worth of good beans but he did look to see i had infact made many orders from him the past and was not just chancing my luck, he sent out good stuff.
But do we really know what we are getting ? ive grew shit many times and they all look different and they are meant to be the same strain, but the leaves and height and bud are all different, are the people who make up the packets of seeds always going to be 100% ? or just like us are they also a bunch of stoners ???

some breeders do it on purpose there should be around a 75% mark though. they leave the variation so its harder for other breeders to copy their stock unless they know their shit. its on the nice rare occasion that a breeder will put out a 100% stable version (though there is not really possible but they can get pretty damn close

another thing is grow environment and shit like that maybe some got colder being further away from the light stretched and caused the plants to look different. and there will be quite some varyation in some landrace strains they are stable to an extent but there basically controlled wild plants in most cases untill a breedeer stabilizes it propperways.

just tell them you got a bunch of smashed seeds man then they should replace them

YOUR A DICKHEAD I WISH NEGATIVE REP WAS STILL HERE.
honesty is the key. nobody likes liars and i believe that Karma can be a bitch, seriously though its cos of people pulling that shit that seedbanks and breeders are reluctant to resend their seeds out to legitimate causes.

besides they send them protected and most seedbnks know how well they sent their shit too. they also know what their own beans look like so dont even go there. anyone thats growing a strain knows what the seeds from that generation/strain look like. (basically if i was an owner and knew the beans shoulda been safe id tell you to get lost.

like i said dont rip them off their not stupid.

I have said that same basic thing many times. There are strains that to many here seem to be old and obsolete and outdated and because of they the new ones have to be better so the old ones drop in sales and also over time in price but their genetic quality has not dropped, they are still as good today as they ever were and much to the amazement of some they can be as good to even way better than the hot ticket flavor of the month that most everyone is drooling over.
　
The other one is newer strains that just are not yet well known or may have been around a while but while still very good sound reliable strains never hit the top three so they never gained the recognition they deserve or the following that should go with it so their prices are low.
　
Some people are only out for Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride but if someone has a specific need or purpose or just preference to fill and that is their main, number one and only goal there are some really good deals to be found and some include some in the very lowest levels of pricing and many in the lower middle to upper middle pricing range.
　
You do not have to pay through the nose to get something you actually need though it is likely in many cases you may have to pay through the nose to get something you only want.

too true lol. but then we all have our desires right lol.

sorry for the long reply ppl
j88

 

[Hassan]

I had a lot of trouble germinating AK-48 and Master Kush seeds from Attitude. The response I got from them is the seeds are "NOT" supposed to be used for growing plants so that was money down the drain.

I just got a pack of ak48 from attitude and have had 100% success rate with speedy germ. They were on the cheaper side and looked like an excellent strain so I tried them out

I'm curious if we could get a list of the top few older strains that are cheaper from Brick Top or j88

 

[THE PIRATE]

I just got a pack of ak48 from attitude and have had 100% success rate with speedy germ. They were on the cheaper side and looked like an excellent strain so I tried them out

I'm curious if we could get a list of the top few older strains that are cheaper from Brick Top or j88

Very good point,

I'm curious if we could get a list of the top few older strains that are cheaper from Brick Top or j88

 

[Jester88]

SHIVA
haze
skunk
afghan #1
white Rhino
Columbian Gold
Old Mother Sativa
Mamma Thai and travelling thai
Hindu Kush

in the mid to top range i imagine your looking at shit like
bubblegum
AK47
Red Dragon
Red Diesel
Durban Poison
Blueberry
Jack herer
there just a few off the top of my head i don't imagine would cost too much just look around.

oh and if you do some research you will find out a few things about these strains that some may find extremely useful .

peace out
j88

 

[Hassan]

thanks j88 I really was thinking about the Shiva last time, also the durban or urban poison

 

[THE PIRATE]

SHIVA
haze
skunk
afghan #1
white Rhino
Columbian Gold
Old Mother Sativa
Mamma Thai and travelling thai
Hindu Kush

in the mid to top range i imagine your looking at shit like
bubblegum
AK47
Red Dragon
Red Diesel
Durban Poison
Blueberry
Jack herer
there just a few off the top of my head i don't imagine would cost too much just look around.

oh and if you do some research you will find out a few things about these strains that some may find extremely useful .

peace out
j88

Many thanks for that bro, ive grew a good few of these my all time fav has to be JACK HERER & BLUEBERRY ''DP'

 

[Jester88]

RPLY TO HASSAN
as far as i knew they were both the same shit basically.

ive actually seen them growing before and despite the different names and slightly different herritage (one different parent) they look the same one just didnt go purple and they looked a tiny bit different in the pheonotypical area but not much at all as said before mainly the purple dint show.

Both still good medicine

 

[Hassan]

From what I understood the urban poison is better for indoor growing but from your experience it didnt really make a difference?

 

[ROBINBANKS]

You just have to shop around before you part with your cash, id much prefer the old school strains before the new ones.
Dutch passion has never failed me.

 

[Hassan]

Dutch passion noted also, thanks

Thread is getting off topic but anyone have experience with Belladona? Really curious about it

 

[Jester88]

thanks j88 I really was thinking about the Shiva last time, also the durban or urban poison

lets just say ive seen a few strains and for some reason Shiva seems like an absolutely lovely plant all round. I highly recommend it to everyone.. seriously ive mentioned it in countless posts lol.

From what I understood the urban poison is better for indoor growing but from your experience it didnt really make a difference?

like i said i didnt notice too much difference but to be honest id go durban poison.

You just have to shop around before you part with your cash, id much prefer the old school strains before the new ones.
Dutch passion has never failed me.

yeah they got some good strains.

Dutch passion noted also, thanks
Thread is getting off topic but anyone have experience with Belladona? Really curious about it

no experience with belladonia but the thread kinda went off topic as soon as i had my bitch lol. sorry about that people.

j88

 

[truevoodoo]

in all fairness, the consumer from any business should not be held laible for making things right, i.e. within a replacement or return etc.

there was a harsh reply about somone using a setup smashing seeds and telling them, well you get the point. i dont see anything wrong if they were and actually did, but making a situaution that never took place is redundant.

i know this may sound ridiculous but when things like this happen the consumer actually feels the wrath in the end, with higher prices or a complete no return/refund policy when they illegitimate claims out weigh the legitimate ones, usually. not to say the seed business seems to rarely see a drop in prices anyhow ... the savings are obviously not passed on to the customer in these situations, regardless, go figure.

 

[dduo420]

in all fairness, the consumer from any business should not be held laible for making things right, i.e. within a replacement or return etc.

there was a harsh reply about somone using a setup smashing seeds and telling them, well you get the point. i dont see anything wrong if they were and actually did, but making a situaution that never took place is redundant.

i know this may sound ridiculous but when things like this happen the consumer actually feels the wrath in the end, with higher prices or a complete no return/refund policy when they illegitimate claims out weigh the legitimate ones, usually. not to say the seed business seems to rarely see a drop in prices anyhow ... the savings are obviously not passed on to the customer in these situations, regardless, go figure.

True indeed... I actually complained to BCSEEDS.COM... I was livid about the low germ rate... funny thing was the gimmes did well and I said that too... after they told me eff you... due to my attitude... I replied with a much more diplomatic tone and they replaced the goods... Good Luck!

 

[Jester88]

True indeed... I actually complained to BCSEEDS.COM... I was livid about the low germ rate... funny thing was the gimmes did well and I said that too... after they told me eff you... due to my attitude... I replied with a much more diplomatic tone and they replaced the goods... Good Luck!

that was nice of them wasnt it. the fact is they are a business same as any they like the feedback of all sorts. if anything they need it more than a lot of other companies so they know whats going on. if a certain batch isnt germinating all sorts of things that you can help them with.

as long as your as the bloke said diplomatic, fair and come from the heart theres every chance they will listen to your plea.

but never rip hem off if youve read the thread youll see a few good reasons why

peace out
j88

 

[Puffster]

ive been puffin since 1973,seen tons of weed.literally.i myself cannot think of another situation that could be so easily scammed.i think thats why you see so much consternation here.we all realize,we can be had so easily.the whole deal is based on faith.no more,no less.

 

[SublimeOne]

THE ATTITUDE IS A FANTASTIC COMPANY. I was nce sent a bean which had a tiny small hole in it. ofcourse the seed did not germinate. I bought 4 seperate pick n mix seeds that time. I phoned them asked and kindly asked them if they could maybe do something about the bean with a hole in it. they made checks on me to see if i am on eof their loyal customers and if the the order/claim was real. He then offered to send me two extra free feminised Pineapple express seeds next time i ordered. VERY CLEVER OF HIM. I instantly ordered a single Blue Cheese from Big Buddha was given a dinafem moby dick freebie and as promised the two free Pineapple express seeds. ATTTITUDE IS THE BEST!!! If you are honest and yor claim is for real, i have seen the attitude are more than willing to make it up. As i said i was given two free Seeds to replace the one 'holey' bean. I have used attitude all my life and will continue to do so. As to the quality of the seeds sold at attitude, as someone rightly said earlier, that is dependant on the breeders,the seed company itself not atttude. i have bought some seeds from attitude that are all huge in size and lovely and ripe ( e.g barneys farm G13 Haze) and others such as the moby dick from dinafem or blue cheese from Big Buddha were far smaller in size and not quite fully ripe and dark. So i have concluded the seed quality is dependant on which company/breeder the seeds come from not attitude who simply sell the seeds. Like i said i love the attitude and will be their customer for life even though i can get the same product elsewhere for 10-25% cheaper in some cases.

 

[slk]

this is why they give extras

 

[Jester88]

not all seedbanks. a reputable one realy doesnt have to they know there service and merchandise are good and have confidence in there shipping and packing.

though lots do offer free beans and discounts for orders over certain $$

 

[milowerx96]

I think they all fuck ya really. I had a problem with some cheese seeds from another company and they gave me the same line of shit. They sell seeds as souvineers.

Just wondered if anyone has complained to a seed company about duds and gotten any response. I accept a dud now and then but when the price of the seeds is very high and the dud rate is too, that's an issue. Attitude says they won't respond to emails about cultivation so I wonder if they would even answer.