Help Me Revive her Please

[Foolieo]

Hello. I would like to start by saying. THIS IS MY LAST PLANT LEFT. my other 2 plants i had put most my efforts into turned into males and i just chopped them. now i have space for this plant in my grow cabinet.

Its in MG potting soil 70/30 perlite. Just over 2 months old. Very slow growth.
Its home has been in my closet where i could not controle the temps and they where most the time around 90 or above. Threw Her (hopen) life. She has lost just about all of her fan leaves. and everything u see now is side growth.
Shes under 4x 100watt Eq cfls Lights on at 5am lights off at 11pm.
I make Use of my moisture meter and make sure she is dry before every watering.
I have not fed any nutes because she is in MG soil (might be running outa nutes.)

She is now in my grow cabinet where i can controle the temps abit better to keep them in the higher 70's to lower 80's AC controled. In the cabinet i do not have a fan that can blow on her yet.

Kinda in a rush atm and just wanted to get this up here and hope for some help before i get back from running around.

If you have any questions or i missed important info let me know and i will be more then happy to fill in the blanks. again all my efforts are now on this 1 plant and 4 clones i took off her. (not to worried about clones might not even be female)

 

[wyteboi]

thats a very hard one to tell , it has nice healthy color to HER (have faith) a VERY nice dark green so i might have to go with the MG soil (altering your ph) It is really hard to say on this one?? IF you have not givin her no food then yea it proly help a lil but that just dont look like a nute deficiancy ..... to me? It dont LOOK over watered and it IS NOT underwatered... possible heat stress but u said thats under control now so..........
(take a closeup of that girls "nodes" and i'll tell u if its female)

 

[Foolieo]

ill also add in. i tested the run off a few days ago and at first it read 6.6 but then after gently stiring the ph meter in the water it dropped to 5.8 so i think my ph is low. i do not have any ph up i only have ph down. what around the house could i add to the water i feed it to raise the ph abit? to try to balance out the soil? i am very strapped for cash this month. and that might fallow right threw to next month :-/.

ill take some close up pics of the nodes. but i dont think there is any sign yet of sex

 

[zeke420]

You need to get a fan on her circulating the air around her also.

 

[Foolieo]

You need to get a fan on her circulating the air around her also.

i plan to. she has always had 1 on her before. i just didnt have a small enough fan to fit in the chamber next to her. i plan to get one asap. i just put her in her new home few hours ago

 

[Foolieo]

does anyone know why all the new foliage is light green yellowish? also some of the shoots seem to be limping today. i cant water it for awhile or i will over water it so i cant check the run off for probably another few days. and how long do you guys normaly wait when usen MG soil before u add small doses of nutes? i have a bottle of Shultz 10-15-10 that i would be usen when it is time.. i would start at 1/4 strength i would imagine.

and a side note. can u go 12/12 with clones that dont have roots yet? i have my tote in the same chamber as this plant and i was thinking i might want to just convert her soon to her flowering stage. maybe get some sex outa her..

 

[JonnyBtreed]

Most new growth is lighter in color slightly. Could add some nitrogen. I'd advise against using mg soil in the future. too many variables to work with. Start with something you know has absolutely nothing in it. And then add what you need.

 

[Green Cross]

I suspect "4x 100watt Eq cfls Lights" is too little light, but not sure.

How close do you keep these bulbs? These are 18w? Always use actual wattage, the plant isn't fooled...

It seems to be doing well, and a fan will help increase growth.

 

[JonnyBtreed]

I suspect "4x 100watt Eq cfls Lights" is too little light, but not sure.

How close do you keep these bulbs? These are 18w? Always use actual wattage, the plant isn't fooled...

It seems to be doing well, and a fan will help increase growth.

I concur.... step up the watts... How'd I miss that?

 

[Foolieo]

I suspect "4x 100watt Eq cfls Lights" is too little light, but not sure.

How close do you keep these bulbs? These are 18w? Always use actual wattage, the plant isn't fooled...

It seems to be doing well, and a fan will help increase growth.

I keep the lights about 2-3 inchs above. They are 27watt actual. I been looking around all my local hardware stores. lowes home depot. and those are the highest 6500k cfls any of them carry.I will keep that in mind to up the wattage. I also had to keep heat in mind in my closet as well. so i tried to limit the lights. my chamber is more easily controllable.

Most new growth is lighter in color slightly. Could add some nitrogen. I'd advise against using mg soil in the future. too many variables to work with. Start with something you know has absolutely nothing in it. And then add what you need.

yeah :-/ first grow i didnt know better and when i planted it i wasnt apart of this forum yet. dont plan on ever usen it again. found out it was a mistake real early

 

[Arral]

I keep the lights about 2-3 inchs above. They are 27watt actual. I been looking around all my local hardware stores. lowes home depot. and those are the highest 6500k cfls any of them carry.I will keep that in mind to up the wattage. I also had to keep heat in mind in my closet as well. so i tried to limit the lights. my chamber is more easily controllable.

yeah :-/ first grow i didnt know better and when i planted it i wasnt apart of this forum yet. dont plan on ever usen it again. found out it was a mistake real early

I know Staples carries a CFL that is 42 watts (150 watt equiv) 2700 lumens and is 6500k spectrum. Thats what I am currently running to grow some Lowryder #2

 

[wyteboi]

More light never hurt noone but i am afraid that is not the problem . GUYS look at the pic. YOU are right in thinkin that light greenish yellow is NOT right. like i said its pretty as fuck but somthin needs to change to fix ur problem! IF that gets worse it might die........... lets just hope it WAS the heat an now its fixed! cmon guys HE needs a seasoned vet to help solve this one.......Maybe it is time to add nutes but start at 1/4 just like u said. oh and go easy on the ph charts with soil ...Whatever ph u put your water at (high or low or perfect) that soil will buffer it out to what THE MG soil wants it at. (so u might put 6.8 in your plant but within a couple days the soil will buffer it to 7.8...... or u might put in 5.6 and a few days later it will buffer itself to 7.8 again... does that make since? i am not very good at explaining stuff, but all soil acts as a buffer . Here is a GREAT example: i had some ph test strips but ran out bout the time my shit started lookin good, so i went with what i know, which is leave um alone they are happy! So my buddy comes over yesterday with his expensive ph tester .. i mixed up some bloom food and we tested it.. 4.8 is what i been givin my babies! why are they alive ? how are they eatin? i cant answer that but i can say they are very healthy SO it has to be the buffer in my soil . (my promix has dololime in it too though.. which is made for buffering ph.....) anyways if your test said 6.8 and 5.somthin then take more test or dont worry about it, dont go raisin it unless YOU know it will help.

 

[cowell]

just my 2 cents, but the dark green is an indication that it's getting too much nitrogen.. this could be causing a nute lock.
There's some good info on that in the plant problem sticky at the top of the page.. if you scroll down you will see the section pretty easily... might be something to check anyway.

 

[gotfondue]

I would say just give it time let her get adjusted to her new home, and just give her fresh water. Give her a semi flush, I always do that and it helps a shit ton. Just taking the nutes away and giving her water, if she starts to lose color then you know that you need to give her some food. It is easier to give food then it is to take food. Jesus knew this and look how good...oh wait nvm. LOL!

 

[Foolieo]

Just a few new pictures seems to be doing alot better. i still need to get a fan on it.

 

[Foolieo]

compare the first picture from post 1 and the first picture there. plant is in same position and almost same angle shot

 

[cowell]

compare the first picture from post 1 and the first picture there. plant is in same position and almost same angle shot

Bro, I don't know what you're smoking, but I want some! PLZ?

Look at the leaves at the top of the plant in both.. one is clearly yellow, with droop, and in the new ones, no droop and those yellow leaves at the top have perked up and look greener....

or is it me that has the good shit?

 

[wyteboi]

i really think its the soil now! mine did the same thing only the prob lasted much longer, and then outta the blue it just fixed itself an started lookin better...........i think they sent out a bad batch of MG soil ? this whole forum is covered with people who are havin problems with MG soil. And i am one of um that has used it SEVERAL times with NO problems... but latly mine and everybody elses are fucked ? yea a bad batch went out...............

 

[wyteboi]

heres a pic with the MG mix :


here is a pic about 2 weeks after replanting into promix.....

 

[BlasphemyFloyd]

heres a pic with the MG mix :View attachment 514693


here is a pic about 2 weeks after replanting into promix..... View attachment 514694

Not a bad batch, MG mix is over hyped and barely works for plants its suggested for. Horrible stuff that leaves almost everything you grow with bad ph, deficiencies and improperly mixed/ imbalanced nutes.

Foolio you should repot that plant with better soil. I even found better soilless mix at a 99 cents store that blew MG away, was mostly coco mixed with perlite and a few other things. Worked well, plus If you cant find anything else, use MG Organic, burns less and is more stable.

And yes repotting it may shock it, but not as shocking as death can be. So change the soil or wait for it to wither and die, or yeild bearly anything of worth. And Home Depot has $15 300w equiv 2700k cfl lights by a company called tcp. They are great for flowering or just adding mixed spectrums during veging, I have used them for the whole life span of the plant and they work great.

Really hope this helped.