cloning a clone
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MrFishy
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Absolutely.
In fact, that's the "key" to strain freedom. Just make certain it's female and a strain worth bothering with.
You can always "re-veg" a trophy for a clone mother, though it's preferred the clone mother has never flowered before (or so I recently read). Mine had flowered and it hasn't seemed to make any difference in the resulting plants, which clone great.
In fact, that's the "key" to strain freedom. Just make certain it's female and a strain worth bothering with.
You can always "re-veg" a trophy for a clone mother, though it's preferred the clone mother has never flowered before (or so I recently read). Mine had flowered and it hasn't seemed to make any difference in the resulting plants, which clone great.
stonerman
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Of course you can. a clone is basicallly a duplicate or a twin of the mother, just smaller. Depending the size of the clone though I wouldnt try cloning it right away, give it some time to grow, you can take clones off clones clones lol and the bud would always be just as potent. hope that helps. peace 
rubancinta
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I asked this same question about a month ago, and the general consensus on the forum was that cloning a clone weakens a plants genetics or some b.s. of that nature. I suspected it was a crock of shit. Thanks for clearing this up. +rep to whoever it was.
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fureelz
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I do it all the time, for sale. just keep them on an 18/6 schedule and its all good. you should hopefully have the cloning success rate to atleast 98% before messing with a clone though. and timing is everything.
mared juwan
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I think this qualifies as an "advanced technique" question. Cloning is not exactly newb territory. And the difference between taking cuttings from a single mother plant and the cloning of clones is something a lot of "advanced" growers seem to disagree on. I've seen many knowledgable growers say that cloning clones degrades potency and other factors. However, in my own experience this is not true. I have a strain which I have done this for 8 generations now. Meaning I grew the original plant from seed, then I cloned that plant before flowering it and vegged its clones until they were ready to give clones and then repeated the process. EIGHT times. I am rather limited on space and keeping mothers is just not feasible. Especially when I have noticed that as I selectively clone the healthiest and fastest-rooting plants the quality has actually INCREASED from all this, rather than the other way around. I am of the opinion that my 8th generation of this strain is more potent and vigorously growing than the original plant or any generation in between. They have only gotten better instead of worse which is the opposite of what many sources claim. Even so, when I tell people this I usually get a tisk tisk response saying you're not supposed to do this. But I've never gotten anyone to fully explain to me what is bad about it.
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fureelz
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I have also noticed it is easier to train or supercrop the clone of a clone.
mared juwan
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Yea maybe 8 generations isn't very long. Only about 1 years time. What happened when they lost their vigor Mcgician? Less trich formation or less bud formation or prone to disease?
Mcgician
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Basically all of the above. I grew about six different strains over the years, but P91 the longest. It was a powerhouse plant initially, but over time, it just got "spoiled" I guess. Only a scientist could really answer the question, and under lab conditions. I can't be 100% sure of the reason why, but it did happen. Was truly sad. Such an awesome strain, but I never got any accidental seeds out of it or anything. I always hoped I have somebody tell me they found one, but it never happened.
mared juwan
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Interesting. Well I hope I don't run into this. I assure you if I had the option to keep mothers I would. Hopefully I will be getting some more space soon. But I think it's safe to say if you don't plan on keeping the strain going more than a year then you don't need a mother?
Mcgician
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I think just for scientific/learning purposes, if you can keep/have the room to keep a mother plant going, definitely do it just to see the comparison. Only after you can conclusively deduce that the strain has lost it's vigor as a whole should you bail on it IMO.
judahbotwin
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sounds awesome. i wasnt sure about cloning a clone but i am definitely gonna try now. so the potency wont decrease and may increase? cause that sounds like something everyone should look into.
mared juwan
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I can guarantee you won't loose anything for at least 8 generations. That's as far as I've taken it. Professional growers of prize winning strains and such use mother plants. They must do it for some reason. But unless you have a hold of some holy grail genetics you want to keep for years and years then cloning clones is a pretty good option IMO.
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fureelz
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or stress a male
Woomeister
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I have several perpetual clones of nineteenth generation about one week from the chop. Degredation is not an issue at all.