Do Not Talk to the Police

[onlypurpz]

sorry guys, but its common sense. before they arrest ur ass they even say "anything you say or do will be held against you in the court of law"

as far as no warrant no entry. thats NOT always true. cops can enter into detached garages without warrents. some of you might say who care's, its a garage. well that also stands for pol-barns and other buildings on the property.

the point is, dont be stupid and use your head.

Purpz

 

[bagheera]

just finished every second of it.... its good i agree... but i just go with what my lawyer tells me to say... NOTHING! same fuckin thing... listen people... dont say anything, dont let them in without a warrant.... but how much evidence do judges actually need to grant a warrant? and how quick can they get one issued?

While I can't give a time frame, a judge can issue a warrant if he/she feels that you are probably doing what the police are accusing you of. Probability is a variable. It can mean different things to different judges. And odds are the judge at trial will be equally or more sympathetic to you at trial that the judge issuing the warrant. Police are allowed (and I imagine do) to contact any judge to get a warrant signed. That means that they get to pick which judge they ask. So the judge who is more concerned with the law than with your rights is probably the one they'll contact. And I'm sure the police know which judge is most likely to sign the warrant. All I can say is be discrete, and good luck to you.

 

[diemdepyro]

They are not your friends do not talk.

 

[jdmlove]

Everybody also remember if a cop ever ask you to step out side of you house or apartment dont do it they are just telling you to do that because they cant go into your house and arrest you with out a warrent so if you step out side you house or apartment they will arrest you...........also if you ever get pulled over and they tell you to get out of the car and leave the keys in the car dont do it just take the keys with you and close the windows and lock the doors because if you leave the keys there they consider the car abondond on the city property and will go through it with out needing a warrent also i tell you to close the windows because even if they dont have a warrent the can still peek there head in through the open widow and sniff around maybe smell something you dont want then to know is in there ...................hope this info helps a few people

 

[bunghole]

Interesting situation:

My home alarm went off once while I was at work. By the time I got home, the police had already entered and cleared my entire home.

What if they had found my stash or plants?

Would that be considered illegal search?

 

[Burnzy]

so what happens if you get pulled over and you know you were speeding for example. They come up to you and ask you do you know why i pulled you over? You say (no). They tell you because you were speeding then ask you if you know how fast you were going. You just say no correct? Or would you tell them you would like to exercise your 5th amendment and have nothing to say to them? I am clueless when it comes to law's and "manipulating" them. I would think if you told them that your not going to talk to them that they are just going to write you a ticket for speeding and have your speed saved on a radar gun which is enough to charge you with it in court, right?

 

[420anonymous]

Great video, can't believe I haven't seen it before here. I'm sharing it with all I know...

Burnzy,

You should answer his question with a question.

Officer: Do you know how fast you were going?
You: Good morning Officer, why did you pull me over?

or

Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
You: Why did you pull me over?

Just don't answer the question. If you say no, you are lying. You go to court to fight the ticket and he brings his radar/laser log and shows it was calibrated and has you going 15mph over the limit. When asked how fast you were going, you lied and said you weren't speeding. So the lie counts against you.

 

[Burnzy]

Great video, can't believe I haven't seen it before here. I'm sharing it with all I know...

Burnzy,

You should answer his question with a question.

Officer: Do you know how fast you were going?
You: Good morning Officer, why did you pull me over?

or

Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
You: Why did you pull me over?

Just don't answer the question. If you say no, you are lying. You go to court to fight the ticket and he brings his radar/laser log and shows it was calibrated and has you going 15mph over the limit. When asked how fast you were going, you lied and said you weren't speeding. So the lie counts against you.

Damn, good point. I'm liking this law stuff ever since i watched that video. Its like playing the cops game and knowing what your doing. I didn't even think about that as being lieng but thats true, good point. Thanks man, rep for that.


Edit: Wouldn't you still end up with the ticket because he has you on his radar gun?

 

[mindphuk]

Damn, good point. I'm liking this law stuff ever since i watched that video. Its like playing the cops game and knowing what your doing. I didn't even think about that as being lieng but thats true, good point. Thanks man, rep for that.


Edit: Wouldn't you still end up with the ticket because he has you on his radar gun?

Sure, not answering questions aren't going to get you out of a summons (ticket). The goal is to avoid saying anything that could possibly be used against you, which could be anything.

Just last night I was talking to a guy on parole for getting nabbed with over 2 lbs. After the LEO confirmed his insurance and implied he was done (free to go), he just asked a follow up question, "do you have anything in the car like weapons, drugs or anything?"
This guy answered "no", so the cop said, "then you wouldn't mind if I looked, now would you?" which at that puts you in the spot of refusing consent to search (which BTW, this guy said jail taught him all of this stuff. We, hopefully can benefit without having to end up there).

So, here's another phrase to learn and use. "Am I free to go?"
LEOs will often just go on a fishing expedition even after they have given you a ticket or in some situations without even bothering to give a citation. It is important to find out if you are being lawfully detained. Without a certain level of reasonable suspicion, you can't be held.

 

[Burnzy]

Sure, not answering questions aren't going to get you out of a summons (ticket). The goal is to avoid saying anything that could possibly be used against you, which could be anything.

Just last night I was talking to a guy on parole for getting nabbed with over 2 lbs. After the LEO confirmed his insurance and implied he was done (free to go), he just asked a follow up question, "do you have anything in the car like weapons, drugs or anything?"
This guy answered "no", so the cop said, "then you wouldn't mind if I looked, now would you?" which at that puts you in the spot of refusing consent to search (which BTW, this guy said jail taught him all of this stuff. We, hopefully can benefit without having to end up there).

So, here's another phrase to learn and use. "Am I free to go?"
LEOs will often just go on a fishing expedition even after they have given you a ticket or in some situations without even bothering to give a citation. It is important to find out if you are being lawfully detained. Without a certain level of reasonable suspicion, you can't be held.

Got ya. That sucks for that guy you were just talkin to . So he got screwed again as he was leaving?

 

[mindphuk]

Got ya. That sucks for that guy you were just talkin to . So he got screwed again as he was leaving?

He screwed himself. Once when he consented to searching the vehicle and then he also consented to them opening up the sealed box the weed was in.

Ed Rosenthal has a couple of books, one, Ask: Ed Marijuana Law,discusses things like this including how you can have legal control over a box but not be the owner, hence distancing you from the contraband if they do open the box, which again, even if not owned by you, since you control it, have the authority to decline consent.
This is opposed to denying you own the box which then the police can search without consent.
So for example, if you are transporting large quantities, it might be a good idea to have it sealed in a package addressed to a different individual, or just have someone else's name on it (doesn't even have to be real). You can claim control but not ownership.

But basically, it should never come down to that because you should be declining searches and you should have given them nothing they can establish as probably cause.

 

[Burnzy]

Man this is all making me wanna learn more of these laws. Seems like it would be really helpful

 

[madcowpatty]

informative, but uh....... that guy needs to take toke and slow down....................

 

[Mr. Skunk]

That was an incredible video, i feel much more knowledgeable

 

[jon2]

informative, but uh....... that guy needs to take toke and slow down....................

ya really, I understand everything its just the speed at which he talks at makes the video annoying and I start to lose interest.

No doubt good info though.

 

[spoadalive420]

reading these post i was a bit destressed. All of this fuck cops shit, ever watch the show, they deal with drunks, and immigrants who live too many to one place that don't get along and steal from each other. Shit tons of thiefs, wife beaters, murderers and other shit that most of us don't have to deal with. When you give a cop a shit eating look, yea hes gonna fuck with you. Don't hate the cop, hate the laws, don't hate the player hate the game kinda shit. Lets face it, alot times when people get busted they are really abusing the Stuff "using at a bad time/place or too much." Think about it, only the very big "huge grow" and very small "very minor possesion" ever make headlines. So if made it legal, then MJ will be pushed in peoples faces that don't like it. Plus kids may get hold of it too, too early. In my opinion our government is doing the best they can, can't please everyone. The thing is there are alot of folks token that the govn't / census doesn't account for. I think that MJ for energy is really what we are missing out on. Biodiesel, oils, clothing and building materials. Oh yea and those big nasty oil industries paid/proved there way in so maybe thats how the herb thing has to go through. One of you super herb growers gotta smoke out some senators, and have a finest possible quality hemp suit and a biodiesel limosine.

 

[george22879]

This is great. Thank you for sharing this!

 

[DaGambler]

don't open ur door

i read the whole thread up to this point with the intention of adding my two cents... and this guy just did it for me.

!!!

Many of you are already making a huge mistake and giving up rights - by opening your door to begin with! As soon as you open the door that gives the cops the right to claim "i smelled weed when he opened the door"... "i saw paraphenalia on the coffee table" .... etc.

You are under NO OBLIGATION to open your door, answer the phone, etc. You see a cop at your door, WALK AWAY. If they have a warrant to search your home or a warrant for your arrest, they will be coming in irreguardless of you answering the door or not. (EDIT: with a warrant to search they would be coming in, with just a warrant for your arrest, they can't come in unless they have reason to beleive that you are home.) This is also why its a good idea to have a camera (discreetly placed) that lets you know who is knocking on your door to begin with. YOUR Home is YOUR Castle.

REMEMBER: If they are asking you question (or trying to), its because they DON'T have the answers. Don't help them to get those answers !!!

IF you are actually growing weed in your home, then NO ONE should ever be knocking on your door (without you knowing they were coming) to begin with. Same with the phone, if you don't know who is calling you: Don't Answer It! I've owed tens of thousands of dollars for over a dozen years now. You know how many times i've spoken to a bill collector? Not once.

 

[DrGreenFinger]

As soon as you open the door that gives the cops the right to claim "i smelled weed when he opened the door"...

this is exactly what they did to the president of the dallas chapter of norml (source: barry cooper's; never get raided), even though he had sage and right outside his front door. this is a great lecture, i remember downloading it awhile back (had to be courtesy of this thread). this guy is pretty intense. there is also a video called "the citizen's guide to surviving police encounters" that is pretty informative.

 

[DrGreenFinger]

i read the whole thread...

your avatar is distracting

i know you get that all the time.