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[Budley Doright]

Well we won’t need a very tall wall .

Kennedy’s lawyer has asked the FDA to revoke its approval of the polio vaccine | CNN

President-elect Donald Trump has praised the polio vaccine as the “greatest thing,” but a lawyer affiliated with Trump’s pick to lead the country’s top heath agency has petitioned the US Food and Drug Administration to revoke approval of the vaccine used in the United States.

amp.cnn.com

 

[Rocket Soul]

It's a simple as this,this "man" does NOTHING unless HE benefits,his middle name should be QUID PRO QUO,those holding out hope that they or America in general can benefit have to ask ONE question "What's in it for him"?. If no prize exists for him the heartless,mean-spirited,narcissist will sit on his hands and watch this country swirl down the toilet,GUARANTEED. I implore all Americans who are dispirited over this stunning result to find some oasis of happiness and cocoon themselves to ride these 4 yrs. out for the sake of their health and sanity and if history is any salvation,evil never wins out.

More or less correct, the exception is that hes perfectly prepared to do stuff he doesnt benefit from if somebody triggers him a bit. Its first about his ego, then his bottom line.

 

[CCGNZ]

More or less correct, the exception is that hes perfectly prepared to do stuff he doesnt benefit from if somebody triggers him a bit. Its first about his ego, then his bottom line.

Yeah,I agree w/that,thing is how the hell is a man pushing 80 lacking any form of humility given his advanced age,one benefit of age is perspective,and I think that by 50 yrs. of age most men have the wisdom that regulates everything being ego driven. This guy is a fat ass,out of shape,spoiled daddy's boy who has cultivated a uber businessman,tough guy image that is suspect(and that's being generous). His fragile BIG ego is at best childish and at worst demented,shit he's not even in office yet and already backtracking on lowering grocery prices and ending Ukraine in a day, just like all the "Winning" we were going to experience circa 2016-20,once a Con always a Con. We have put America's direction/future in the hands of a man who does 180's,Pro-choice til 2010,pro life to grab Evangelicals in 2016.Quoted Cripto-Currency as a scam until he's courted and given contributions and a piece of the action,WHO can take ANYTHING out of his mouth seriously.I'm a pragmatic guy,politically in the center and Trump is the !st President I couldn't come to reason and respect,and I've respected every Pres. on BOTH sides of the aisle prior. Does it not give American's a moment of concern, pause that a American Pres. has a website w/everything under the sun FOR SALE,I think it's ludicrous and telling.Does anyone really believe he will put country over his "brand". All I'll say is for the good of my country I wish no ill will on him and hope we emerge from it all as the country I've come to know/love warts and dirty laundry in the open,the envy of most other countries.

 

[Rocket Soul]

Yeah,I agree w/that,thing is how the hell is a man pushing 80 lacking any form of humility given his advanced age,one benefit of age is perspective,and I think that by 50 yrs. of age most men have the wisdom that regulates everything being ego driven. This guy is a fat ass,out of shape,spoiled daddy's boy who has cultivated a uber businessman,tough guy image that is suspect(and that's being generous). His fragile BIG ego is at best childish and at worst demented,shit he's not even in office yet and already backtracking on lowering grocery prices and ending Ukraine in a day, just like all the "Winning" we were going to experience circa 2016-20,once a Con always a Con. We have put America's direction/future in the hands of a man who does 180's,Pro-choice til 2010,pro life to grab Evangelicals in 2016.Quoted Cripto-Currency as a scam until he's courted and given contributions and a piece of the action,WHO can take ANYTHING out of his mouth seriously.I'm a pragmatic guy,politically in the center and Trump is the !st President I couldn't come to reason and respect,and I've respected every Pres. on BOTH sides of the aisle prior. Does it not give American's a moment of concern, pause that a American Pres. has a website w/everything under the sun FOR SALE,I think it's ludicrous and telling.Does anyone really believe he will put country over his "brand". All I'll say is for the good of my country I wish no ill will on him and hope we emerge from it all as the country I've come to know/love warts and dirty laundry in the open,the envy of most other countries.

I sympathise. Also, im out, not going to post in politics section, better stay away.

 

[CCGNZ]

I sympathise. Also, im out, not going to post in politics section, better stay away.

Sorry to see you go,good discussion agree/disagree is possible,and discourse is healthy,I just keep it clean and don't get personal,this thread is a reflection of our nation currently,seems since 2016 disagreement is followed by hate. Just as in Washington DC where pols. no longer frequent the same establishments and socialize outside the Senate/House floors forging relationships regardless of political views,regular people have also insulated themselves into their respective camps. All this makes compromise virtually impossible and ignores the fact that we are a VERY diverse nation,it used to be a STRENGTH of America and we've seemingly chosen to let it be a weakness that tears us apart. Much to the joy/satisfaction of our adversaries,I think we need to awaken and detour of this ruinous road.

 

[Rocket Soul]

I sympathise. Also, im out, not going to post in politics section, better stay away.

Sorry to see you go,good discussion agree/disagree is possible,and discourse is healthy,I just keep it clean and don't get personal,this thread is a reflection of our nation currently,seems since 2016 disagreement is followed by hate. Just as in Washington DC where pols. no longer frequent the same establishments and socialize outside the Senate/House floors forging relationships regardless of political views,regular people have also insulated themselves into their respective camps. All this makes compromise virtually impossible and ignores the fact that we are a VERY diverse nation,it used to be a STRENGTH of America and we've seemingly chosen to let it be a weakness that tears us apart. Much to the joy/satisfaction of our adversaries,I think we need to awaken and detour of this ruinous road.

Thanks is not a choice based on anyone talking here just that since im non us and dont have a vested interest and maybe too nuanced ideas (likely to piss both sides off and maybe get in problems with TOS, i have friends who got banned due to dabbling into the pols section for no good reason) - its just too much lose/lose situation
Both sides are very unimpressive to me by now, but Donnie wins the race to the bottom. But i now after the election i feel more that i understand why he got elected and what people where voting against when giving him their vote. Post election Biden has not impressed me, especially re Hunter.

 

[Nugnewbie]

Thanks is not a choice based on anyone talking here just that since im non us and dont have a vested interest and maybe too nuanced ideas (likely to piss both sides off and maybe get in problems with TOS, i have friends who got banned due to dabbling into the pols section for no good reason) - its just too much lose/lose situation
Both sides are very unimpressive to me by now, but Donnie wins the race to the bottom. But i now after the election i feel more that i understand why he got elected and what people where voting against when giving him their vote. Post election Biden has not impressed me, especially re Hunter.

You have nuanced ideas, and lived experience that made the comments you've posted interesting and insightful to me, so I will miss that.

 

[Dboybudz]

Thanks is not a choice based on anyone talking here just that since im non us and dont have a vested interest and maybe too nuanced ideas (likely to piss both sides off and maybe get in problems with TOS, i have friends who got banned due to dabbling into the pols section for no good reason) - its just too much lose/lose situation
Both sides are very unimpressive to me by now, but Donnie wins the race to the bottom. But i now after the election i feel more that i understand why he got elected and what people where voting against when giving him their vote. Post election Biden has not impressed me, especially re Hunter.

That helps to hear other countries perspective. I got a few buddies that are from Bangladesh and all over and ask them what they think, interesting to hear. Not political but was talking about my pup and saying needs to go to veterinary again he said they don't have such things there. He said why spend all your money on a dog when it should go to my family he didn't understand the companionship part. Anyways I'm in the middle of the politics see both sides but Democrats pushed me farther to right with alot of crazy spending and such not like Republicans haven't either but spending on stuff that doesn't help us.

 

[Rocket Soul]

To me it seems like the combination of the cultural hegemony of the US, the "winner takes all" political system and social media algorithms proven to promote rage inducing content over other type o reactions is a very polarising and dangerous combo in the world. You see the same tendencies all over but the US version is on steroids. Is there anything that the world can agree about anymore or do you have to be against everything your opponent stands for?

My native country has 8 parties in parliament, and during my lifetime ive seen 3 new parties reach the 4% limit which qualifies you to sit in parliament- greens, and two different populist right leaning parties (one of them dissolved by now). Parties align along a left and right wing coalition, with one party crossing over from right to left wing coalition during my life time: centre party which seems to be the option for sparsely populated areas and voters with right politics but adamant in not wanting their vote going to governing with right wing populists.
But the strange thing really seems to be that right wing populists seems to compete with traditional labor party: both courting middle/working class voters but populist adding antiimigrantion politics. Somewhat similar to how maga seems to have been working out in voting patterns. Oh yes, and our liberal party is firmly in the rightwing coalition. Sounds bonkers for Americans, right? They have right economics but liberal social tendency.

My country was the first introduce nongender pronouns(PC scando,lol), though it was not in the name of trans or genderfluidity, it was more geared towards male/female equality with regards linguistics in media; always opting for a masculine term when speaking of nongendered groups like "voters" or "taxpayers" - it was never for self identification. But once it reached the US seems like it changed gears...

By now im leaning towards being pro "social contract", nor right nor left. In my country that seems to have been more aligned to the left thru, but historically in the US it seems that this cant be totally owned by the left: there was a time where hard work could elevate your living situation and the chances of your children of succeeding no matter if dems or reps held the reigns.

Ive always leant left but will settle now for just competence and coherency. Ill even vote for the non populist rightwing party if it was clear that right coalition was winning anyways - i do pretty much anything to keep the populists away from being the main party of government. But it would be swearing under my breath...

 

[Rocket Soul]

Now.im.out all the bes

 

[Nugnewbie]

To me it seems like the combination of the cultural hegemony of the US, the "winner takes all" political system and social media algorithms proven to promote rage inducing content over other type o reactions is a very polarising and dangerous combo in the world. You see the same tendencies all over but the US version is on steroids. Is there anything that the world can agree about anymore or do you have to be against everything your opponent stands for?

My native country has 8 parties in parliament, and during my lifetime ive seen 3 new parties reach the 4% limit which qualifies you to sit in parliament- greens, and two different populist right leaning parties (one of them dissolved by now). Parties align along a left and right wing coalition, with one party crossing over from right to left wing coalition during my life time: centre party which seems to be the option for sparsely populated areas and voters with right politics but adamant in not wanting their vote going to governing with right wing populists.
But the strange thing really seems to be that right wing populists seems to compete with traditional labor party: both courting middle/working class voters but populist adding antiimigrantion politics. Somewhat similar to how maga seems to have been working out in voting patterns. Oh yes, and our liberal party is firmly in the rightwing coalition. Sounds bonkers for Americans, right? They have right economics but liberal social tendency.

My country was the first introduce nongender pronouns(PC scando,lol), though it was not in the name of trans or genderfluidity, it was more geared towards male/female equality with regards linguistics in media; always opting for a masculine term when speaking of nongendered groups like "voters" or "taxpayers" - it was never for self identification. But once it reached the US seems like it changed gears...

By now im leaning towards being pro "social contract", nor right nor left. In my country that seems to have been more aligned to the left thru, but historically in the US it seems that this cant be totally owned by the left: there was a time where hard work could elevate your living situation and the chances of your children of succeeding no matter if dems or reps held the reigns.

Ive always leant left but will settle now for just competence and coherency. Ill even vote for the non populist rightwing party if it was clear that right coalition was winning anyways - i do pretty much anything to keep the populists away from being the main party of government. But it would be swearing under my breath...

Another example of a more nuanced viewpoint that I will miss. As long as I don't get punted from the site for a tirade against a troll, I'm sure we'll cross paths on RIU again. You seem to have some knowledge around LED lighting and DIY so dont be surprised if I end up asking you a question or two about that in the future. In the meantime, all the best to you also.

 

[Rocket Soul]

Another example of a more nuanced viewpoint that I will miss. As long as I don't get punted from the site for a tirade against a troll, I'm sure we'll cross paths on RIU again. You seem to have some knowledge around LED lighting and DIY so dont be surprised if I end up asking you a question or two about that in the future. In the meantime, all the best to you also.

Be my guest ive done diy leds since 2018 and taught myself thru this site, sadly first generation diyers are all but absent nowadays.
In general diy for cost reduction is moot today but if you want special features and or have an awkward space its still very valid approach. Bit most of all satisfying
My suggestion to you is to get comfortable with a soldering iron; it allows you to use any diodes in the world, i feel i lost years of experience just from being married to ordinary pushin connectors which is easier when you start out. But they limit you to use gear which have been prepped to be easy to work with.

 

[compassionateExotic]

 

[Nugnewbie]

Be my guest ive done diy leds since 2018 and taught myself thru this site, sadly first generation diyers are all but absent nowadays.
In general diy for cost reduction is moot today but if you want special features and or have an awkward space its still very valid approach. Bit most of all satisfying
My suggestion to you is to get comfortable with a soldering iron; it allows you to use any diodes in the world, i feel i lost years of experience just from being married to ordinary pushin connectors which is easier when you start out. But they limit you to use gear which have been prepped to be easy to work with.

Yes, I own a soldering iron, but not overly confident that I wouldn't end up with far less than perfect solder joints. This lack of confidence has kept me from attempting diy. But, like you say there may be a circumstance where I may want to attempt it. It will require some practice and research if I attempt it. Just good to know others who have experience and knowledge if or when I choose to do so.

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Thanks is not a choice based on anyone talking here just that since im non us and dont have a vested interest and maybe too nuanced ideas (likely to piss both sides off and maybe get in problems with TOS, i have friends who got banned due to dabbling into the pols section for no good reason) - its just too much lose/lose situation
Both sides are very unimpressive to me by now, but Donnie wins the race to the bottom. But i now after the election i feel more that i understand why he got elected and what people where voting against when giving him their vote. Post election Biden has not impressed me, especially re Hunter.

If you think that your fellow countrymen, and you, won't be affected by Trump winning the election, then you better start watching more American media. It appears that he wants to tariff the shit out of Canada as well, if they don't beef up the Canadian, American border.

 

[Nugnewbie]

If you think that your fellow countrymen, and you, won't be affected by Trump winning the election, then you better start watching more American media. It appears that he wants to tariff the shit out of Canada as well, if they don't beef up the Canadian, American border.

I think as far as Canada goes, it's more a negotiating tactic, and it's already had an effect on politicians and policy in the country. The numbers are tiny on your northern border as compared to your southern as far as fentanyl and illegal border crossings. I think Canada at this point might be more concerned about mass deportation coming from the USA if and when he implements it, so it is in Canada's interest to strengthen the border. Everyone knows the tariffs would be passed to consumers in the states, so being that he campaigned on lowering prices for US citizens, it makes little sense to actually impose them. Not to say he wouldn't tariff Canada just to hurt Trudeau though. Never know.

 

[sunni]

Sorry to see you go,good discussion agree/disagree is possible,and discourse is healthy,I just keep it clean and don't get personal,this thread is a reflection of our nation currently,seems since 2016 disagreement is followed by hate. Just as in Washington DC where pols. no longer frequent the same establishments and socialize outside the Senate/House floors forging relationships regardless of political views,regular people have also insulated themselves into their respective camps. All this makes compromise virtually impossible and ignores the fact that we are a VERY diverse nation,it used to be a STRENGTH of America and we've seemingly chosen to let it be a weakness that tears us apart. Much to the joy/satisfaction of our adversaries,I think we need to awaken and detour of this ruinous road.

if people choose not to post in politics you should let them be, they arent required and if they know its going to end up getting their account banned due to TOS violations dont make them stay

 

[Budley Doright]

if people choose not to post in politics you should let them be, they arent required and if they know its going to end up getting their account banned due to TOS violations dont make them stay

Wow! He was saying bye lol.

 

[CCGNZ]

if people choose not to post in politics you should let them be, they arent required and if they know its going to end up getting their account banned due to TOS violations dont make them stay

OKY/DOKY

 

[CCGNZ]

Thanks is not a choice based on anyone talking here just that since im non us and dont have a vested interest and maybe too nuanced ideas (likely to piss both sides off and maybe get in problems with TOS, i have friends who got banned due to dabbling into the pols section for no good reason) - its just too much lose/lose situation
Both sides are very unimpressive to me by now, but Donnie wins the race to the bottom. But i now after the election i feel more that i understand why he got elected and what people where voting against when giving him their vote. Post election Biden has not impressed me, especially re Hunter.

Cool,Understand,didn't know your not stateside,Great White North? Originally I joined up to rap weed(I'm approaching 60 and been growing outdoors since a teen back when it was a BIG risk). Now w/weed stores up the ass(I count 6 within 2 mi. of my house),combined with my country in a place I've never seen before, my posting in politics happened organically,I never voted until 2020.