cannabineer
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Spoken in (perhaps ignorance; probably amused awareness) of the profound irony of promising to end violence by the application of even greater violence.
Right wing anti woke propaganda targets peaceful protests
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Those demagogues (best words to describe them still) are always there, in our case more so now than ever (given that Wilders was voted winner just 6months ago and despite not becoming PM will have relatively most votes in parliament).
Wilder's in 2007, after a NL vs Moroccan youth soccer match: "the police should get the right to shoot rioters [he meant muslim kids] in the knees". Something he doubled down on for years, including "2 bullets in the kneecap should have a preventative result".
What these protesters do is put it in front of him, no seeking required, the feed him. I don't have a problem with pro-palestina protests, even when their view in this case is so one-sided and simplistic, but it's the form and the unreasonable demands that matter. Under certain circumstances I would not even oppose the rioting but at the very least only after exhausting more peaceful and especially fruitful alternatives. Like a nationwide peaceful protest that would have been joined by many non-students. They could have simply opted to do that. Or block a major highway like Extinction Rebellion did for months by just sitting tf down. And wtf are they not burning the place down over Wilders forming a cabinet?
Not monolith in most ways, and in probably different ratios but similar make up of people (though the fascist cop thing to a lesser extend). But very organized, unionized even. Sure there were instigators, on both sides (some pro-Israel protesters did show up, not sure what that means atm, pro-Israel, I'm fine with just not being anti-), troublemakers not associated with the uni, but those aren't the ones who made such a mess of it or attacked the police.
The students that don't 'support vandalism and violence or engaged in it' went home or gtfo like we used to do in the 80s.
hanimmal
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How hard would it be for a couple dozen patriot front dickheads LARP as some college kids for a couple days/weeks, then the other couple dozen dickhead friends of theirs show up as 'counter protesters' and manufacture drama for the cameras where fire and fireworks can look all scary and big? Mix them in with all the other levels of people who are radicalized enough to show up to one of these and it becomes muddy enough water that Trump/GQP can use it to scare all those suburban parents more than they already are.
They need colleges, because that is where they can get large enough groups of younger kids to blend in and do damage is my bullshit guess. It really seems like there is a push to ignite huge protests like Trump had in 2020, but looks like they are going to fizzle like their bullshit trucker protest in Canada a couple years ago (unless Dictator Bibi goes off the Rez and triggers some shit again to try to help get his MAGA buddies re-elected I guess).
If there were, chances are it'll take months for all that footage to be viewed enough that people start outing the radicalized idiots, so by the time that it is becoming proved, it'll be so many outrages ago that nobody will care enough to explain/learn about who is actually doing the violence.
Fogdog
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This whole thing is being blown up, way out of proportion.
From The Financial Times, today:
Come on, man. This is nothing like 1968, nor does it echo of the George Floyd BLM protests in 2020. This isn't anything like those. Trump and his ilk might want to be so. I have no doubt that Roger Stone or one of his doppelgangers are trying to stir some shit up with the kind of dirty tricks outlined in your post. FT is no FOX or NY Post. They are credible most of the time but their article today made me want to vomit.
"Student Activism evokes sense of disorder that doomed Lyndon B Johnson", my ass. Not even close. This has me considering dropping my subscription. Not just this but including this.
I'm in agreement with you. I think the protests are going to die down and evidence will come out showing how the media coverage was influenced by people with their own agenda that had nothing to do with the tragedy playing out in Gaza or southern Israel. It sickens me to see people taking advantage and I'm going to remember who took it. They are scum. There are plenty of scum in the Palestinian side and on the Israeli side but I can at least credit them as being involved with the events at hand. But the outside agitators who are taking advantage of the situation, including the so-called mainstream media, fuuuuuuuck them.
cannabineer
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Fogdog
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Lyndon was doomed before the campaign even started.
Fun fact, Noem and Johnson both had puppy problems.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Made me look it up!
It was different in scale, but not in kind. LBJ doubled down on his supppsed knowing what dogs like/is good for them.
Back then, though, sociopaths knew to keep their cruelties more concealed …
The Time That LBJ Picked Up His Dog by the Ears - The Real Story — Scott Calonico
It was a picture that sent shockwaves around the United States when it was first splashed across the front page of newspapers from coast to coast on the morning of April 28, 1964. Before Watergate, there was Beaglegate - the time that President Johnson picked up his 10 month old beagle pups by the e
www.scottcalonico.com
(soundtrack is a bit Holocaust documentary imo)