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Plants want low PPFD??
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Being you're a "well known member" I 110% hear you....but lol that idea sounds scary AF. Their growth is improving. If it was worse today instead of better I'd def do what you said. This may sound dumb...but being a nubcake I'd rather struggle and complete a grow even if shitty yields, than risk fucking up the transplanting/shock recovery.You definitely don't have light problems lol
Your plants are dying in front of you man..
Your soil mix is so not good, and they show it.
You have deficiency, probably of everything.
Want them coming back to life ? Follow this:
Take them out of the pot, cut 1/3 of the rootzone, plant back in a pre made soil mix that can sustain some growth for a couple of weeks without you adding anything (something like coco/peat/ewc or just simple earth with ewc)
Give only 6.2-6.4 ph water, no nutes.
Put light at 70% or higher (raise height if too hot, no dimm)
Put temps at 29-31c
Put RH to 60-80%
Once you are able to sustain those conditions, you are a grower, if you flactuate, you won't have good grows no matter what light or tent or strains you have.
Growing indoor is done only when you are able to dial in everything in your set up before even planting a seed.
Good luck
Yesterday evening:
ONE DAY LATER TONIGHT!
They certainly look better to my eye, leaves lifting some, new growth healthy color. Gonna keep pushing along.
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@ Jjgrow420 I hear what you're saying but with these struggles I have learned a few things, so this first grow is really just part of that process for me. By goly if I chopped everytime time things weren't pretty I wouldn't have finished my first outdoor grow lol
Jjgrow420
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Well in the end you're the one smoking it so if that's all you require then hey who am I to say anything....
We all started somewhere... I get it. From experience I can tell you a plant that's been stressed will have more problems through the run. There's many factors that pile up and just make it difficult for the plant to be it's best. Personally I won't smoke anything that's subpar so anything but is a waste of time/resources for me. I've cut down 12 plants just before flowering because I messed up and added too much into the soil. I just knew I'd be chasing those issues the whole grow only making my life harder and never being able to get my standard out of it.
By the time you would be able to right those plants you would have been able to restart clones and carry on without the issues you had previously. (If you change what you did wrong of coarse)
I can see you have some major ph issues in your medium, causing lockouts. No matter how much you feed, the plant isn't getting it. It's just locked out and festering in the medium causing nutrient toxicity.
Of coarse, it's your choice what you do. But I'd strongly recommend restarting.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
We all started somewhere... I get it. From experience I can tell you a plant that's been stressed will have more problems through the run. There's many factors that pile up and just make it difficult for the plant to be it's best. Personally I won't smoke anything that's subpar so anything but is a waste of time/resources for me. I've cut down 12 plants just before flowering because I messed up and added too much into the soil. I just knew I'd be chasing those issues the whole grow only making my life harder and never being able to get my standard out of it.
By the time you would be able to right those plants you would have been able to restart clones and carry on without the issues you had previously. (If you change what you did wrong of coarse)
I can see you have some major ph issues in your medium, causing lockouts. No matter how much you feed, the plant isn't getting it. It's just locked out and festering in the medium causing nutrient toxicity.
Of coarse, it's your choice what you do. But I'd strongly recommend restarting.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
Ate up everything you said growmie. If I don't get good yields I'm fine with it just to learn. FYI I've always had to "learn the hard way" with most things. I hope over the next 2 years to better recognize issues and such without having to refer to graphs/pictures to have a clue.
So far I've learned less is better than more when unsure. Be it nutrients, watering, light. Grow medium composition is more important than I thought. Don't be putting fans on when you're less than 3 nodes.
Thanks again to everyone!
It has a kill switch underneath it. I turn it off and lay it down until morning, then I turn it back on to help circulate air.
Hollatchaboy
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Look into an ac infinity thermoforge t3. Much safer, and you can control it from the Controller 69.
Also, no one has yet to mention how to lower temps. Does anyone use like a tiny AC? Suggestions??
My babies seem to be on the road to stability. This is them about 15min ago after some defoliating.
Hollatchaboy
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I use outside air until it gets too warm. Then I switch to ac. If you cool the room the tents in, you can just use a passive vent on the tent.
They look better, but still a lil pale. Stems look purple still. Be easy on the watering. Let them get somewhat light before watering again.
Yeah I will probably have to get a little mini AC that has an exhaust you run out your window. My 2 100w lights are only at 40% intensity each and the temps get to 82,83 when its 72-76 outside. Thanks coach! The plants were super light before this watering. I've learned that when I lift them by a single pot handle and they barely swing down/angled its either time or very close. When there's decent amount of water still, they start to dangle sideways almost before they're off the tent floor.
The purple stems could very well be in part to my struggles as a nubcake growmie, BUT I know to some degree its strain related. My first grow with this strain had purple stems and nugs, and these seeds are from the same crop grown 4-5 years ago. Also my seedlings popped up with purple stems.
Hollatchaboy
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More often than not, purple stems are not strain related. If the leaves look healthy, and it's growing fast, purple stems are most likely strain related. If the plant is stressed, most likely stress related.
I hear you brother, but its not a trait I can really count on with this strain. I grew 6 plants last time outdoors, and 3 this grow indoors. All have had purple stem/branches since seedling. If I still had pics from that grow 4ish years ago I'd show you. I remember freaking out that first grow bc I had no idea the strain had the trait and my leaves were healthy lol. I sort of accepted I couldn't do anything about it that first grow, then when the buds started coming in with 40-60% of the nugs being purple, I was sold on it be genetic for this strain.
Does that not make sense??? Honest question bub.
EDIT: I also was super curious what strain it could be, as I got them from a local grower who was growing a bunch strictly to get it to adapt to our humid climate and he's just a good ole hillbilly that got his daughter to order the seeds to start his project(blue collar, hates computers type lol). The main key traits among all the plants and the last harvest for me was: purple stems & bud, SUPER STRONG Pine aroma, fat leaves so indica based(right?). My best guess was something related to GDP or Alaskan Purple maybe - since the goal was to find a humidity resistant strain.
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Hollatchaboy
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Ok maybe it's genetic then. Carry on.I hear you brother, but its not a trait I can really count on with this strain. I grew 6 plants last time outdoors, and 3 this grow indoors. All have had purple stem/branches since seedling. If I still had pics from that grow 4ish years ago I'd show you. I remember freaking out that first grow bc I had no idea the strain had the trait and my leaves were healthy lol. I sort of accepted I couldn't do anything about it that first grow, then when the buds started coming in with 40-60% of the nugs being purple, I was sold on it be genetic for this strain.
Does that not make sense??? Honest question bub.
EDIT: I also was super curious what strain it could be, as I got them from a local grower who was growing a bunch strictly to get it to adapt to our humid climate and he's just a good ole hillbilly that got his daughter to order the seeds to start his project(blue collar, hates computers type lol). The main key traits among all the plants and the last harvest for me was: purple stems & bud, SUPER STRONG Pine aroma, fat leaves so indica based(right?). My best guess was something related to GDP or Alaskan Purple maybe - since the goal was to find a humidity resistant strain.
thought i'd update where they've gotten too. Not bad ey @Jjgrow420 
Day 3 flower. Vegged 7.5wks/53 days
Day 3 flower. Vegged 7.5wks/53 days
Hollatchaboy
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Color is looking much better. Leaves are still a lil droopy though. Looks like the roots may still be struggling to get oxygen.
That triggers a thought I had once. When the pots dry up, they pull away from the container and compress...so would giving a light squeeze all around, just enough to feel the medium shift some and around and around. That should introduce oxygen right? I'm going to post a pic tomorrow after a couple hrs of lights on.
Moflow
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Get a long screw driver or a knitting needle or such like and stab lots of holes in the soil.
Simple but makes sense! Probably would go the thin knitting needle route. Babies are doing great this morning. Out of 6 plants last time 5 were female. Hoping all 3 are lol.
