Is there something wrong here or is this normal on an auto

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xTmCx1992x

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I have brown dry crispy leaves at the tops of each Cola, they've been progressively growing more Brown but I only have a few weeks left of flowering before the plant is done, do I have a serious deficiency? Or is this just normal?
 

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xTmCx1992x said:
I have brown dry crispy leaves at the tops of each Cola, they've been progressively growing more Brown but I only have a few weeks left of flowering before the plant is done, do I have a serious deficiency? Or is this just normal?
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You have more than a few weeks to go!
 
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xTmCx1992x said:
So on a strain that has 8 to 10 weeks of flowering, at 8 weeks you recommend people just push it to 15 16 weeks or what?
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8-10 weeks is at best a guideline for the plant.
1. That applies to a healthy plant with zero issues and IF it is a truthful number from the breeder, it applies to their conditions. Any variation in environment can change that timeline.
B. Plants can't read calendars, they will do what they do and it will take as long as it takes.

I'd assume that his statement that you have longer than you think left, comes from the fact the hairs are all still white. They still need to change color and retract back into the buds before its gonna be ready. I'm guessing that you have at least a few weeks left.
 
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TCH said:
8-10 weeks is at best a guideline for the plant.
1. That applies to a healthy plant with zero issues and IF it is a truthful number from the breeder, it applies to their conditions. Any variation in environment can change that timeline.
B. Plants can't read calendars, they will do what they do and it will take as long as it takes.

I'd assume that his statement that you have longer than you think left, comes from the fact the hairs are all still white. They still need to change color and retract back into the buds before its gonna be ready. I'm guessing that you have at least a few weeks left.
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I know that to be true I do actually have another tent that's got some beautiful photos in it, don't really know why I'm having such a struggle with this Auto, it just doesn't seem to take to anything happily, it's got Jack's 321 with some Advanced Nutrients, fish Emulsion and Cal Mag on off feeding, and then just whenever the PPM or pH drift towards an outside edge I just do a low PPM Ph'ed water flush, runoff is 1120 on PPM pH of 6.5, it's only getting about 200 W true so I'm just amazed that it's either seeming like a nutrient or a light burn, but all of my measurements show me that everything seems about perfect, so I don't know it's from Royal Queen seed and it's just been a general kind of weird plant the whole time, very finicky
 
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Light dose not just go straight down having them butted together light that is putting a lot of extra light under the one in the center of the tent. The worst damage is on your tallest cola.
Sounds like you got quite a heavy hand on the feed. She dose not need N at this point.
What I would try
1 spread your ballist out a bit.
2 cut the fish shit out and reduce your base nutes.
3 super crop that tall top cola.

I'm gonna agree with @big bud man 413 you got at least 3 if not 5 weeks to go
 
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VaSmile said:
Light dose not just go straight down having them butted together light that is putting a lot of extra light under the one in the center of the tent. The worst damage is on your tallest cola.
Sounds like you got quite a heavy hand on the feed. She dose not need N at this point.
What I would try
1 spread your ballist out a bit.
2 cut the fish shit out and reduce your base nutes.
3 super crop that tall top cola.

I'm gonna agree with @big bud man 413 you got at least 3 if not 5 weeks to go
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Okay thanks for the info, I'm not going to Super crop, but what I will do is raise my lights and separate them out further, as you can see I don't know much about light zoning but, is it better to have them each sideways with more of a gap between, if I turn each one Sideways from where it's at so they're not pointed at each other how big would you have the gap between them?
 
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VaSmile said:
Light dose not just go straight down having them butted together light that is putting a lot of extra light under the one in the center of the tent. The worst damage is on your tallest cola.
Sounds like you got quite a heavy hand on the feed. She dose not need N at this point.
What I would try
1 spread your ballist out a bit.
2 cut the fish shit out and reduce your base nutes.
3 super crop that tall top cola.

I'm gonna agree with @big bud man 413 you got at least 3 if not 5 weeks to go
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And actually I got some advice from a Auto Seed Company owner was to flush it until those ppms come down, it is coming down from about 1400 PPM, so what you're seeing was a rapid onset circumstance that is at actually at this point slow to near stop, so yeah it's already getting flushed with just pH balance water at 6.3 to 6.5 so we're on the current downward slope with feedings, once it gets lower into the 7 to 900 range that's when I'll resume lighter feedings, at least that's the plan he gave me do you all think that that's good too?
 
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Get the photon app loaded on your phone. Check the spot the is under the walls Yerevan your 2 lights are pushed together I garentee your par higher then directly under the center of the light. Then space them out til the space between them is about equal in par to under the center of the panel
 
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VaSmile said:
Get the photon app loaded on your phone. Check the spot the is under the walls Yerevan your 2 lights are pushed together I garentee your par higher then directly under the center of the light. Then space them out til the space between them is about equal in par to under the center of the panel
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After dicking around with the photon app, I believe this is what you were expecting me to do, that's about 2 inches higher and a way more spread out, does that look better to you? And let me just say I really appreciate this guys it turns out my Sensei for growing doesn't, well he yet has a lot to learn we'll just leave it at that, but I really appreciate the insight and I'm going to get involved with this forum a lot more, because I'm seeing that a lot of people even growing the same strain as me are having way better results, and I think it's because of a noob, actually I'm pretty certain it's because I'm a noob, this is my first tent grow, so, I still yet have a ton to learn and hope to eventually over the next handful of grows actually get pretty good at this
 

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Do you guys think, that with the PPM being too high now that I've adjusted the lights to get proper lighting to each part of the plant and and the rest of the tent more evenly, do you think I could just Coast on pH balance water at like 6.3 to 6.5 until the end or would you keep feeding it? And would you be open to me showing you all the fertilizers I use and helping me construct a better feeding system? I know it's kind of a lot to ask but that's why I'm here, I wouldn't be here if I didn't need help.
 
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Much better. I'm still green myself. This fourm has taught me much of the misguidance I got from my grow mentor. Yeah if you think about a 1sq foot panel pushing a 4 Sq foot tent that's a lot of light going outside the panel you want your cross lumins to be about equal to your highest concentration under the panels if that makes sense. When it is time to upgrade your space look into the bar style leds they do a much better job of spreading lumins out across your grow space more evenly. As you get later in your bloom cycle the plants tend to like a little less intense of light think of the change from summer to fall the sun gose from passing directly over head to more of circling the horizon. You still need some N at the beginning of flower but it become less needed the later in flower you get.
N is for growth K is for blooms.
Take some time studying "Mulder chart" to understand how different nutrients effect each other
 
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VaSmile said:
Much better. I'm still green myself. This fourm has taught me much of the misguidance I got from my grow mentor. Yeah if you think about a 1sq foot panel pushing a 4 Sq foot tent that's a lot of light going outside the panel you want your cross lumins to be about equal to your highest concentration under the panels if that makes sense. When it is time to upgrade your space look into the bar style leds they do a much better job of spreading lumins out across your grow space more evenly. As you get later in your bloom cycle the plants tend to like a little less intense of light think of the change from summer to fall the sun gose from passing directly over head to more of circling the horizon. You still need some N at the beginning of flower but it become less needed the later in flower you get.
N is for growth K is for blooms.
Take some time studying "Mulder chart" to understand how different nutrients effect each other
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Yeah so it looks like you just kind of want to make it into a square mentally that fills your tent and then basically you want the lights to be in the middle but outer parts of the square not at the outside outside but it's slightly inside from the outside, hopefully that makes sense, do you guys think this plant is savable yet? Or is it just going to naturally be less potent or otherwise less good but, I'm just wondering what y'all think if it goes well from here what it's capable of yet
 
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