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Let's talk about the reported Chesebro offer....
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Let's talk about the reported Chesebro offer....
BudmanTX
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and another one goes down in Georgia......this one is extra special.....
oh Kracken
betcha Cheese head is going nuts right now
oh Kracken
betcha Cheese head is going nuts right now
DIY-HP-LED
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Trump and Co-Defendants are SO SCREWED after Prosecutor UNCOVERS a JACKPOT
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It’s never a good day when right before your trial 15,000 pieces of evidence are suddenly located and provided to your prosecutor. Michael Popok of Legal AF reports on the discovery that 15,000 or more emails and texts belonging to disgraced former Coffee County election supervisor Misty Hampton are now in the hands of the Fulton County district attorney as they prepare for the trial against Sidney Powell and ken Chesebro beginning this Friday.
DIY-HP-LED
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I guess the GBI turning over those 15,000 emails and finishing their investigation might have had something to do with it, Cheeseburger might be thinking too, it's a sweet deal considering the alternative. If they plead or cheeseburger is tried alone and found guilty, there are a lot more defendants it can shake loose before Trump's trial. By the time they get to trial just Trump and a half dozen others will be on trial, and Trump will try to throw everybody else under the bus! He will be the only one among the bunch on TV in a jumpsuit though.
DIY-HP-LED
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She was in the room with Trump in DC and her deal probably includes testimony and federal cooperation too, another lever for Jack to use. This really puts the heat on the cheese and I expect the cheese to melt, unless he wants to go down with Donald and away for a long time. If both of the early trial defendants go down, then it will cause a cascade of pleas from others.
It seems, except for a select few, the choice is to jump ship as soon as possible or go down with the Trumptanic, who should be sunk federally by then anyway.
BREAKING: Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia election interference case
10,804 views Oct 19, 2023 #SidneyPowell #Georgia #DonaldTrump
Former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell has pleaded guilty in the Georgia election interference case. NBC News' Laura Jarrett and MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin discuss what the plea agreement involves and how it could impact the case against former President Trump and other defendants.
It seems, except for a select few, the choice is to jump ship as soon as possible or go down with the Trumptanic, who should be sunk federally by then anyway.
BREAKING: Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia election interference case
10,804 views Oct 19, 2023 #SidneyPowell #Georgia #DonaldTrump
Former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell has pleaded guilty in the Georgia election interference case. NBC News' Laura Jarrett and MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin discuss what the plea agreement involves and how it could impact the case against former President Trump and other defendants.
BudmanTX
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if the Kraken goes down, Cheese head will be tried alone.......unless.....these 2 have been trying everything to get out of the state lvl to the fed lvl and lost every time....so lets see what cheese head is gonna do now......I guess the GBI turning over those 15,000 emails and finishing their investigation might have had something to do with it, Cheeseburger might be thinking too, it's a sweet deal considering the alternative. If they plead or cheeseburger is tried alone and found guilty, there are a lot more defendants it can shake loose before Trump's trial. By the time they get to trial just Trump and a half dozen others will be on trial, and Trump will try to throw everybody else under the bus! He will be the only one among the bunch on TV in a jumpsuit though.
DIY-HP-LED
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Cheese had a good offer made to him, no jail time and if he keeps his nose clean the record will be wiped under the first offender law in Georgia. The alternative could be years in prison and going down for Trump. The evidence dump by the GBI contains more than just 15,000 emails and those emails might lead to indictments for others.
DIY-HP-LED
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I suppose cheese and Kraken are headed for federal indictments after Jack is done with Trump or has him well into the meat grinder. So maybe it won't matter about the pardon after probation in Georgia, a deal there means a deal with Jack too.
BudmanTX
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true....but we don't know cause we don't have the emails.....that part is a wait and see imo
Kraken plead down to mistomenors (sp) 6 of them.........man i figure that would be a big fat felony charge......
DIY-HP-LED
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Here is a preview of Trump's trial in Georgia.
Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia Trump case | Raw court video
Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia Trump case | Raw court video
DIY-HP-LED
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They are offering good deals to her and cheese, but any deal in Georgia likely means a deal with Jack too and it might be part of the agreement to cooperate with federal prosecutors too.
DIY-HP-LED
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Cheese was offered a better deal, 3 years of probation, Powell gets 6 years' probation. However, there is the federal case and Jack, a deal in Georgia likely means a federal deal too, in for a penny, in for a pound.
BREAKING: Top Trump lawyer to COOPERATE against Trump, pleads GUILTY
BREAKING: Top Trump lawyer to COOPERATE against Trump, pleads GUILTY
DIY-HP-LED
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That was a sweet deal he was offered considering the alternative of going down with Donald and the rest and serving a long prison sentence in Georgia and federally, but that comes later.
Kenneth Chesebro rejected a plea offer ahead of the Georgia election interference trial. Tomorrow, 450 prospective jurors will report to the Fulton County Courthouse to complete a written questionnaire to determine preliminarily if they are able to sit for the Kenneth Chesebro trial that begins on Monday.
Sidney Powell’s guilty plea deal does suggest how the RICO trial will pressure one of the kingpins of the fake elector plan to protect his place in history. Chesebro’s memo’s will likely sink any attempt to escape and place greater emphasis on Mark Meadows’s role in the coup. His memos and emails aren’t privileged because they furthered his client’s ongoing crime. And having Alex Jones as a witness will make things even weirder.
The original deal offered included testimony against his codefendants -- including Trump -- in exchange for three years' probation and a $10,000 fine. The terms of the deal also included a written letter of apology, the sources said. The deal would have been made under Georgia's first-offender act, under which the conviction would have been wiped from Chesebro's record after probation was completed.
The Cheese, Bro stands alone.
Kenneth Chesebro rejected a plea offer ahead of the Georgia election interference trial. Tomorrow, 450 prospective jurors will report to the Fulton County Courthouse to complete a written questionnaire to determine preliminarily if they are able to be...
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Kenneth Chesebro rejected a plea offer ahead of the Georgia election interference trial. Tomorrow, 450 prospective jurors will report to the Fulton County Courthouse to complete a written questionnaire to determine preliminarily if they are able to sit for the Kenneth Chesebro trial that begins on Monday.
Sidney Powell’s guilty plea deal does suggest how the RICO trial will pressure one of the kingpins of the fake elector plan to protect his place in history. Chesebro’s memo’s will likely sink any attempt to escape and place greater emphasis on Mark Meadows’s role in the coup. His memos and emails aren’t privileged because they furthered his client’s ongoing crime. And having Alex Jones as a witness will make things even weirder.
The original deal offered included testimony against his codefendants -- including Trump -- in exchange for three years' probation and a $10,000 fine. The terms of the deal also included a written letter of apology, the sources said. The deal would have been made under Georgia's first-offender act, under which the conviction would have been wiped from Chesebro's record after probation was completed.
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New York AG demands evidence review after top Trump exec is accused of lying in fraud trial
New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office suggested Thursday that the Trump Organization failed to produce evidence in the $250 million fraud trial of Donald Trump and his company, citing a recent report accusing a key witness of lying under oath.
The AG’s office said in a letter that it has “identified likely omissions” in documents produced by the defendants related to 2016 exchanges with Forbes Magazine about the value of Trump’s real estate assets.
That alleged failure “indicates a breakdown somewhere in the process,” an official from that office warned the judge who will deliver verdicts in the ongoing civil trial.
It is “also suggestive of potentially broader issues in the production process,” wrote the official, senior enforcement counsel Kevin Wallace, in the letter to Judge Arthur Engoron.
The accusation cuts against Trump’s repeated claim that all of the witness testimony in the trial is “perfect for us.” And it could undermine the defense of former Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg, who has been accused of lying on the stand in an effort to distance himself from false financial statements at the heart of the case.
The attorney general’s suit accuses Trump, his sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, the Trump Organization and top executives of misstating the true values of properties to obtain tax advantages and better terms on loans and insurance. James wants the court to levy $250 million in damages and permanently bar Trump and his two adult sons from serving as officers of any New York business.
Wallace, in his letter, proposed that an independent monitor conduct a forensic review of electronic data held by the Trump Organization from August to September 2016.
“If the Monitor determines that responsive information was not produced, she can provide an assessment of where in the process the failure occurred and propose remedies to ameliorate those issues,” Wallace wrote.
The letter cites a Forbes article from last week accusing Weisselberg of lying during his sworn testimony last week in the civil trial in Manhattan Supreme Court.
The article, titled “Trump’s Longtime CFO Lied, Under Oath, About Trump Tower Penthouse,” said Weisselberg falsely claimed on the stand that he had “never focused” on the valuation of Trump’s apartment.
But Forbes, which has long tracked the wealth of the world’s richest people, said that Weisselberg’s claim is not true.
“A review of old emails and notes, some of which the attorney general’s office does not possess, show that Weisselberg absolutely thought about Trump’s apartment — and played a key role in trying to convince Forbes over the course of several years that it was worth more than it really was,” Forbes wrote.
The article went on, “Given the fact that these discussions continued for years, and that Weisselberg took a very detailed approach in reviewing Trump’s assets with Forbes, it defies all logic to think he truly believes what he is now saying in court.”
Wallace noted in Thursday’s letter that the defendants have “produced some documents reflecting ongoing exchanges with Forbes Magazine about the valuation of assets during August and September 2016.”
Weisselberg as part of those exchanges had obtained financial information about the company’s golf courses, Wallace wrote.
But he added, “While Defendants have produced some emails in that exchange, it appears they have not produced a later set of emails” between Weisselberg and a real estate expert, Steven Ekovich.
The alleged failure to produce those emails follows “multiple affidavits on behalf of the Trump Organization attesting to the completion of their production obligations,” Wallace wrote.
He suggested an Oct. 27 deadline for the monitor to submit a report on the forensic examination.
Trump, who has attended five days of the trial, and his co-defendants have denied wrongdoing.
Engoron has already ruled that they are liable for fraud. The trial will settle six related claims alleged by James.
Attorneys for Trump and Weisselberg did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment. Weisselberg, who has been loyal to Trump, served jail time for tax fraud in a criminal case related to his work at the Trump Organization.
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New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office suggested Thursday that the Trump Organization failed to produce evidence in the $250 million fraud trial of Donald Trump and his company, citing a recent report accusing a key witness of lying under oath.
The AG’s office said in a letter that it has “identified likely omissions” in documents produced by the defendants related to 2016 exchanges with Forbes Magazine about the value of Trump’s real estate assets.
That alleged failure “indicates a breakdown somewhere in the process,” an official from that office warned the judge who will deliver verdicts in the ongoing civil trial.
It is “also suggestive of potentially broader issues in the production process,” wrote the official, senior enforcement counsel Kevin Wallace, in the letter to Judge Arthur Engoron.
The accusation cuts against Trump’s repeated claim that all of the witness testimony in the trial is “perfect for us.” And it could undermine the defense of former Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg, who has been accused of lying on the stand in an effort to distance himself from false financial statements at the heart of the case.
The attorney general’s suit accuses Trump, his sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, the Trump Organization and top executives of misstating the true values of properties to obtain tax advantages and better terms on loans and insurance. James wants the court to levy $250 million in damages and permanently bar Trump and his two adult sons from serving as officers of any New York business.
Wallace, in his letter, proposed that an independent monitor conduct a forensic review of electronic data held by the Trump Organization from August to September 2016.
“If the Monitor determines that responsive information was not produced, she can provide an assessment of where in the process the failure occurred and propose remedies to ameliorate those issues,” Wallace wrote.
The letter cites a Forbes article from last week accusing Weisselberg of lying during his sworn testimony last week in the civil trial in Manhattan Supreme Court.
The article, titled “Trump’s Longtime CFO Lied, Under Oath, About Trump Tower Penthouse,” said Weisselberg falsely claimed on the stand that he had “never focused” on the valuation of Trump’s apartment.
But Forbes, which has long tracked the wealth of the world’s richest people, said that Weisselberg’s claim is not true.
“A review of old emails and notes, some of which the attorney general’s office does not possess, show that Weisselberg absolutely thought about Trump’s apartment — and played a key role in trying to convince Forbes over the course of several years that it was worth more than it really was,” Forbes wrote.
The article went on, “Given the fact that these discussions continued for years, and that Weisselberg took a very detailed approach in reviewing Trump’s assets with Forbes, it defies all logic to think he truly believes what he is now saying in court.”
Wallace noted in Thursday’s letter that the defendants have “produced some documents reflecting ongoing exchanges with Forbes Magazine about the valuation of assets during August and September 2016.”
Weisselberg as part of those exchanges had obtained financial information about the company’s golf courses, Wallace wrote.
But he added, “While Defendants have produced some emails in that exchange, it appears they have not produced a later set of emails” between Weisselberg and a real estate expert, Steven Ekovich.
The alleged failure to produce those emails follows “multiple affidavits on behalf of the Trump Organization attesting to the completion of their production obligations,” Wallace wrote.
He suggested an Oct. 27 deadline for the monitor to submit a report on the forensic examination.
Trump, who has attended five days of the trial, and his co-defendants have denied wrongdoing.
Engoron has already ruled that they are liable for fraud. The trial will settle six related claims alleged by James.
Attorneys for Trump and Weisselberg did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment. Weisselberg, who has been loyal to Trump, served jail time for tax fraud in a criminal case related to his work at the Trump Organization.
New York AG demands evidence review after top Trump exec is accused of lying in fraud trial
The office of NY Attorney General Letitia James cited a report accusing former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg of lying under oath.
DIY-HP-LED
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Oh oh Donald, Chutkan is gonna want to see you over this one, but the NY judge will get first crack! That didn't take long, posting the home address of the NY AG!
Let's talk about the Trump post we'll see again....
Let's talk about the Trump post we'll see again....
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At Donald Trump's civil trial, scrutiny shifts to son Eric's 'lofty ideas' for valuing a property
The spotlight at Donald Trump's civil fraud trial turned Thursday to the former president's son Eric, with documents and testimony suggesting the scion envisioned a "lofty" value on a suburban New York golf course where the family business proposed building luxury townhouses.
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DOJ urges court to reject Trump effort to toss election interference case
The Justice Department vociferously urged the court to reject an effort from Donald Trump to toss his election interference charges, arguing his status as a president while seeking to block the transfer of power offers no immunity from prosecution.
The 54-page brief comes after Trump earlier this month asked the judge overseeing the case to toss the charges, arguing he is protected by presidential immunity.
“That novel approach to immunity would contravene the fundamental principle that ‘[n]o man in this country is so high that he is above the law.’ The defendant is not above the law. He is subject to the federal criminal laws like more than 330 million other Americans, including Members of Congress, federal judges, and everyday citizens,” DOJ wrote in the Thursday brief.
“None of the sources the defendant points to in his motion—the Constitution’s text and structure, history and tradition, or Supreme Court precedent—supports the absolute immunity he asks the Court to create for him.”
Trump’s earlier motion to dismiss the case was a vigorous defense of his actions leading up to the riot, actions the Justice Department has argued stripped citizens of the right to have their vote counted and which were built on a mountain of fraudulent claims.
But the Justice Department noted that while presidents do have some protections related to the job while fulfilling the role, including from civil suits, they lapse once the executive is no longer in office.
“An individual who has served as President of the United States but is no longer in office may face investigation, indictment, trial, and, if convicted, punishment for conduct committed during the presidency. No court has ever alluded to the existence of absolute criminal immunity for former presidents,” DOJ wrote.
“Legal principles, historical evidence, and policy rationales demonstrate that once out of office, a former president is subject to federal criminal prosecution like other citizens.”
The brief is an expected rejection of Trump’s long shot bid to sink the case, one likely to face a tough audience with Judge Tanya Chutkan, who rejected another move from Trump’s team asking her to recuse herself from the case.
Chutkan earlier this week also largely sided with DOJ, issuing a gag order that bars Trump from attacking foreseeable witnesses in the case, as well as prosecutors and court personnel, arguing his statement could intimidate witnesses and have spurred threats against staff.
In his own brief, Trump pointed to his second impeachment, noting the Senate failed to boot him from office after his efforts to resist the peaceful transfer of power were swiftly brought before the upper chamber.
But the Justice Department said Trump was trying to “turn the Impeachment Judgment Clause on its head” by reading it as “a sweeping grant of immunity that forbids criminal prosecution in the absence of a Senate conviction—which, among other things, would effectively preclude any form of accountability for a president who commits crimes at the end of his term of office.”
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The Justice Department vociferously urged the court to reject an effort from Donald Trump to toss his election interference charges, arguing his status as a president while seeking to block the transfer of power offers no immunity from prosecution.
The 54-page brief comes after Trump earlier this month asked the judge overseeing the case to toss the charges, arguing he is protected by presidential immunity.
“That novel approach to immunity would contravene the fundamental principle that ‘[n]o man in this country is so high that he is above the law.’ The defendant is not above the law. He is subject to the federal criminal laws like more than 330 million other Americans, including Members of Congress, federal judges, and everyday citizens,” DOJ wrote in the Thursday brief.
“None of the sources the defendant points to in his motion—the Constitution’s text and structure, history and tradition, or Supreme Court precedent—supports the absolute immunity he asks the Court to create for him.”
Trump’s earlier motion to dismiss the case was a vigorous defense of his actions leading up to the riot, actions the Justice Department has argued stripped citizens of the right to have their vote counted and which were built on a mountain of fraudulent claims.
But the Justice Department noted that while presidents do have some protections related to the job while fulfilling the role, including from civil suits, they lapse once the executive is no longer in office.
“An individual who has served as President of the United States but is no longer in office may face investigation, indictment, trial, and, if convicted, punishment for conduct committed during the presidency. No court has ever alluded to the existence of absolute criminal immunity for former presidents,” DOJ wrote.
“Legal principles, historical evidence, and policy rationales demonstrate that once out of office, a former president is subject to federal criminal prosecution like other citizens.”
The brief is an expected rejection of Trump’s long shot bid to sink the case, one likely to face a tough audience with Judge Tanya Chutkan, who rejected another move from Trump’s team asking her to recuse herself from the case.
Chutkan earlier this week also largely sided with DOJ, issuing a gag order that bars Trump from attacking foreseeable witnesses in the case, as well as prosecutors and court personnel, arguing his statement could intimidate witnesses and have spurred threats against staff.
In his own brief, Trump pointed to his second impeachment, noting the Senate failed to boot him from office after his efforts to resist the peaceful transfer of power were swiftly brought before the upper chamber.
But the Justice Department said Trump was trying to “turn the Impeachment Judgment Clause on its head” by reading it as “a sweeping grant of immunity that forbids criminal prosecution in the absence of a Senate conviction—which, among other things, would effectively preclude any form of accountability for a president who commits crimes at the end of his term of office.”
DOJ urges court to reject Trump effort to toss election interference case
The Justice Department vociferously urged the court to reject an effort from Donald Trump to toss his election interference charges, arguing his status as a president while seeking to block the tra…
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