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Clausewitz has been somewhat debunked, I recently read. He is perhaps of more interest to historians probing the attitudes of the time than to students of mechanized warfare.
I turned up this nugget: his famous aphorism has been mistranslated badly enough to effectively invert what he was trying to convey.
Everything You Know About Clausewitz Is Wrong
A botched translation of Clausewitz has had an enduring impact on our thinking on warfare.
thediplomat.com
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All true, but he is studied as part of the foundation of their future studies, just like some scientific dead ends are studied, there will be a course on the guy at most military colleges. The education in war is a lot like that in science, you get a lot of history and biography along with the data. Sun Tuz deals more with human nature than the nuts and bolts, so is still more applicable.Clausewitz has been somewhat debunked, I recently read. He is perhaps of more interest to historians probing the attitudes of the time than to students of mechanized warfare.
I turned up this nugget: his famous aphorism has been mistranslated badly enough to effectively invert what he was trying to convey.
Everything You Know About Clausewitz Is Wrong
A botched translation of Clausewitz has had an enduring impact on our thinking on warfare.thediplomat.com
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You will see this repeated in America when Trump goes down, MAGA tears will flow online by the gallon.
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Awwww....
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Ukraine War: Raid carried out in Crimea, according to intelligence reports
234,990 views Aug 24, 2023 #ukraine #crimea #vladimirputin
Sky's military analyst Sean Bell looks at what a recent reported Ukrainian attack on Crimea could mean for the ongoing conflict.
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Adm. Stavridis: Prigozhin plane crash 'was essentially a public execution'
106,174 views Aug 24, 2023 #Prigozhin #Putin #Russia
Yevgeny Prigozhin, leader of the Wagner mercenary group, was reportedly aboard a private jet that crashed enroute from Moscow to St. Petersburg. The crash follows Prigozhin's failed mutiny against the Russian government earlier this year. The circumstances of the crash have raised speculation about the motives behind it, with experts discussing the potential political implications and the message it might send to adversaries of the Russian regime. Fmr. NATO Supreme Allied Commander Adm. James Stavridis joins Morning Joe to discuss, noting this as "a marker of how lethal, deadly and unscrupulous Vladimir Putin is"
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In the United States called the condition for unfreezing Russia's assets
Russian assets will remain frozen in the jurisdictions of the United States, France, Italy, Britain and Germany until Moscow compensates for the damage caused to Ukraine. This was stated by US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan at a meeting with European colleagues.
“Russian sovereign assets will remain in the jurisdictions of France, Italy, Germany, the United States and Britain until Moscow pays for the damage it has caused Ukraine,” Sullivan said. His words are reported by the press service of the White House on official website . European colleagues agreed with the opinion of the American adviser.
Earlier, Estonia developed a legal scheme for the use of Russia's frozen assets. They plan to transfer them to Ukraine, writes RT .
Reported in Russia.
The UN is dissatisfied with the actions of Kyiv on the territory of the Russian Federation
The UN is dissatisfied with the attacks of Ukrainian UAVs on the territory of Russia and the shelling of its border regions. This was stated by Deputy Secretary General of the organization Rosemary DiCarlo. According to her, the actions of the Kyiv regime violate the law.
“We are also concerned about the possible effect on civilians in connection with the shelling of the Russian border and drone attacks inside Russia,” DiCarlo said, opening the UN Security Council meeting on Ukraine. Broadcasting Ruptly . The representative of the organization noted that the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are illegal, they impede the provision of humanitarian assistance to those in need.
Earlier it was reported that two Ukrainian drones were hit in the Moscow region. The first fell in the Odintsovo district, and the second in the Istra. There were also explosions in Rostov-on-Don. They were connected with the work of air defense. The Carpet plan was temporarily introduced at Moscow airports, Tsargrad reports .
What they left out.
Today marks a year and a half since the Russian Federation launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Eighteen months of death, destruction, and unimaginable suffering for the Ukrainian people.
The numbers alone tell a horrific story: OHCHR has confirmed at least 9,444 civilians, including 545 children, killed. Nearly 17,000 others, among them 1,156 children, have been injured. The real figures are likely much higher. Some estimates put the total number of killed, civilians and military personnel of both sides, at half a million.
And there is no end in sight to this war, launched in violation of the principles of the UN Charter and international law. Indeed, since Russia’s withdrawal from the Black Sea Initiative on July 17, the fighting has only escalated.
We are witnessing growing tensions and threats to the freedom of navigation in the Black Sea.
Brutal and relentless Russian attacks have damaged grain export infrastructure in Ukraine’s Black Sea and Danube ports, imperilling the export of foodstuffs desperately needed around the world.
On 27 July, Russian missiles struck port infrastructure in Odesa region, reportedly killing a security guard and damaging a cargo terminal.
On 28 July, Russian forces reportedly shelled a grain terminal in Beryslav district in Kherson region.
On 2 August, a drone attack hit the Danube port of Izmail, damaging about 40,000 tonnes of grain destined for countries in Africa as well as China and Israel, according to Ukrainian officials.
On 14 August, Russian drone and missile attacks reportedly injured at least three people in the port city of Odesa. The nearby port city of Mykolaiv was also targeted.
On 16 August, Russian drones reportedly damaged grain silos and warehouses at the Danube River port of Reni.
And just yesterday, as a result of another Russian drone attack in Odesa region, 13 thousand tons of grain were destroyed.
These are only a few of the most recent incidents.
As we warned during the Security Council meetings on 21 and 26 July, attacks targeting grain facilities may have far-reaching global consequences. They threaten to reverse the progress made in bolstering food security over the past year.
This could be catastrophic for the 345 million people already acutely food insecure around the world.
The Secretary-General continues to stress the importance of food and fertilizer exports from Russia and Ukraine to global food security and to advocate for the resumption of the Black Sea Initiative.
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Russian assets will remain frozen in the jurisdictions of the United States, France, Italy, Britain and Germany until Moscow compensates for the damage caused to Ukraine. This was stated by US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan at a meeting with European colleagues.
“Russian sovereign assets will remain in the jurisdictions of France, Italy, Germany, the United States and Britain until Moscow pays for the damage it has caused Ukraine,” Sullivan said. His words are reported by the press service of the White House on official website . European colleagues agreed with the opinion of the American adviser.
Earlier, Estonia developed a legal scheme for the use of Russia's frozen assets. They plan to transfer them to Ukraine, writes RT .
Reported in Russia.
The UN is dissatisfied with the actions of Kyiv on the territory of the Russian Federation
The UN is dissatisfied with the attacks of Ukrainian UAVs on the territory of Russia and the shelling of its border regions. This was stated by Deputy Secretary General of the organization Rosemary DiCarlo. According to her, the actions of the Kyiv regime violate the law.
“We are also concerned about the possible effect on civilians in connection with the shelling of the Russian border and drone attacks inside Russia,” DiCarlo said, opening the UN Security Council meeting on Ukraine. Broadcasting Ruptly . The representative of the organization noted that the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are illegal, they impede the provision of humanitarian assistance to those in need.
Earlier it was reported that two Ukrainian drones were hit in the Moscow region. The first fell in the Odintsovo district, and the second in the Istra. There were also explosions in Rostov-on-Don. They were connected with the work of air defense. The Carpet plan was temporarily introduced at Moscow airports, Tsargrad reports .
What they left out.
UNDER-SECRETARY-GENERAL ROSEMARY A. DICARLO’S
REMARKS TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL ON
UKRAINE
New York, 24 AUGUST 2023
Madam President,REMARKS TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL ON
UKRAINE
New York, 24 AUGUST 2023
Today marks a year and a half since the Russian Federation launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Eighteen months of death, destruction, and unimaginable suffering for the Ukrainian people.
The numbers alone tell a horrific story: OHCHR has confirmed at least 9,444 civilians, including 545 children, killed. Nearly 17,000 others, among them 1,156 children, have been injured. The real figures are likely much higher. Some estimates put the total number of killed, civilians and military personnel of both sides, at half a million.
And there is no end in sight to this war, launched in violation of the principles of the UN Charter and international law. Indeed, since Russia’s withdrawal from the Black Sea Initiative on July 17, the fighting has only escalated.
We are witnessing growing tensions and threats to the freedom of navigation in the Black Sea.
Brutal and relentless Russian attacks have damaged grain export infrastructure in Ukraine’s Black Sea and Danube ports, imperilling the export of foodstuffs desperately needed around the world.
On 27 July, Russian missiles struck port infrastructure in Odesa region, reportedly killing a security guard and damaging a cargo terminal.
On 28 July, Russian forces reportedly shelled a grain terminal in Beryslav district in Kherson region.
On 2 August, a drone attack hit the Danube port of Izmail, damaging about 40,000 tonnes of grain destined for countries in Africa as well as China and Israel, according to Ukrainian officials.
On 14 August, Russian drone and missile attacks reportedly injured at least three people in the port city of Odesa. The nearby port city of Mykolaiv was also targeted.
On 16 August, Russian drones reportedly damaged grain silos and warehouses at the Danube River port of Reni.
And just yesterday, as a result of another Russian drone attack in Odesa region, 13 thousand tons of grain were destroyed.
These are only a few of the most recent incidents.
As we warned during the Security Council meetings on 21 and 26 July, attacks targeting grain facilities may have far-reaching global consequences. They threaten to reverse the progress made in bolstering food security over the past year.
This could be catastrophic for the 345 million people already acutely food insecure around the world.
The Secretary-General continues to stress the importance of food and fertilizer exports from Russia and Ukraine to global food security and to advocate for the resumption of the Black Sea Initiative.
continued...
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Madam President,
On 19 August, a Russian missile attack on the drama theatre in the heart of the city of Chernihiv took the lives of seven people, including a six-year-old girl, and injured more than a hundred others, among them at least 15 children.
Many of the victims were passers-by enjoying a Saturday morning with their families, with some on their way to church to celebrate an Orthodox Christian holiday.
In recent weeks, dozens of civilians have also been killed in attacks on Kherson, Odesa, Donetsk, Lviv, Kharkiv, Sumy, Zaporizhzhia and other regions of Ukraine.
In some instances, sequential, or double-tap, strikes have killed and injured not only civilian residents, but first responders who rushed to help.
We are also deeply disturbed by the destruction of a hotel used by the UN and other humanitarian staff in Zaporizhzhia on 10 August.
These heinous attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure are in flagrant violation of international humanitarian law. They are unacceptable and must be strongly condemned.
Attacks against Ukrainian culture and heritage have also escalated. Since the beginning of the war, UNESCO has verified damage to 284 cultural sites, including 120 religious sites.
Following the attacks on 23 July that severely damaged the Historic Centre of Odesa, an area protected under the World Heritage Convention, UNESCO deployed an expert mission to conduct a damage assessment and to prepare for measures to stabilize and protect cultural assets from further deterioration.
Another recent UN assessment on the impact of the destruction of the Kakhovka Dam concluded that the breach caused a far-reaching environmental disaster, the scale of which might not be clear for decades to come.
Hundreds of square kilometres were inundated, and thousands of square kilometres of reservoir and wetlands desiccated, severely impacting the livelihoods of already struggling Ukrainian farmers.
The impact of the war on women has been devastating.
They represent the overwhelming majority of the 6.2 million people forced to move to other countries because of the violence.
The United Nations is ensuring gender mainstreaming in its humanitarian response, including promoting women’s empowerment and leadership, and prioritizing protection from gender-based violence.
Despite staggering challenges, Ukrainian women have stood at the forefront of humanitarian responses. Women-led civil society organizations were among the first to respond to the full-scale invasion.
To support these efforts, UN Women has allocated, through its Peace and Humanitarian Fund, over $14.6 million to finance over 120 civil society organizations that support women and girls inside Ukraine and those displaced in Moldova.
To date, the United Nations has verified 173 cases of conflict-related sexual violence against 112 men, 57 women, and four girls.
The Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine has said that such incidents of sexual violence may amount to war crimes.
The massive human rights violations have not spared children.
Their schools and hospitals are destroyed jeopardizing their right to education and health. To date, OHCHR has verified 824 and 403 attacks on educational and medical facilities, respectively.
We welcome the signing on 18 August of a plan by the UN and the Government of Ukraine to prevent grave violations against children.
However, we regret that the UN still does not have the necessary access to verify allegations of violations against [Ukrainian] children in the territory of Ukraine under Russian control or in the Russian Federation itself, including children allegedly transferred to the Russian Federation.
Madam President,
We are also concerned about the possible impact on civilians of the shelling of Russian border communities and drone attacks deep inside Russia, including Moscow.
Attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure – wherever they may occur – are indefensible and strictly prohibited under international law.
Regarding humanitarian assistance, the UN and its partners continue to deliver aid to those in need.
Limited access to Russian controlled areas of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine hampers our aid operations. We continue to seek potential avenues to expand access to these areas.
The Ukraine Humanitarian Response Plan has now received over $1.7 billion – or 44 per cent – of the $3.9 billion required through the end of 2023. While we extend our gratitude to the generosity of donors, continued contributions are needed to ensure timely delivery of assistance, including through Ukraine’s harsh winter season.
Madam President,
Today’s grim milestone of 18 months of war coincides with the 32nd anniversary of Ukraine’s independence.
I would like to congratulate the Ukrainian people today and take this occasion to stress, once again, that the UN’s commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity within it internationally recognized borders is unwavering.
Similarly, and recognizing the growing calls around the world for an end to the war, I reiterate the UN’s commitment to support all meaningful efforts to achieve a just and sustainable peace in Ukraine, in line with the UN Charter, international law and relevant General Assembly resolutions.
Thank you.
dppa.un.org
Madam President,
On 19 August, a Russian missile attack on the drama theatre in the heart of the city of Chernihiv took the lives of seven people, including a six-year-old girl, and injured more than a hundred others, among them at least 15 children.
Many of the victims were passers-by enjoying a Saturday morning with their families, with some on their way to church to celebrate an Orthodox Christian holiday.
In recent weeks, dozens of civilians have also been killed in attacks on Kherson, Odesa, Donetsk, Lviv, Kharkiv, Sumy, Zaporizhzhia and other regions of Ukraine.
In some instances, sequential, or double-tap, strikes have killed and injured not only civilian residents, but first responders who rushed to help.
We are also deeply disturbed by the destruction of a hotel used by the UN and other humanitarian staff in Zaporizhzhia on 10 August.
These heinous attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure are in flagrant violation of international humanitarian law. They are unacceptable and must be strongly condemned.
Attacks against Ukrainian culture and heritage have also escalated. Since the beginning of the war, UNESCO has verified damage to 284 cultural sites, including 120 religious sites.
Following the attacks on 23 July that severely damaged the Historic Centre of Odesa, an area protected under the World Heritage Convention, UNESCO deployed an expert mission to conduct a damage assessment and to prepare for measures to stabilize and protect cultural assets from further deterioration.
Another recent UN assessment on the impact of the destruction of the Kakhovka Dam concluded that the breach caused a far-reaching environmental disaster, the scale of which might not be clear for decades to come.
Hundreds of square kilometres were inundated, and thousands of square kilometres of reservoir and wetlands desiccated, severely impacting the livelihoods of already struggling Ukrainian farmers.
The impact of the war on women has been devastating.
They represent the overwhelming majority of the 6.2 million people forced to move to other countries because of the violence.
The United Nations is ensuring gender mainstreaming in its humanitarian response, including promoting women’s empowerment and leadership, and prioritizing protection from gender-based violence.
Despite staggering challenges, Ukrainian women have stood at the forefront of humanitarian responses. Women-led civil society organizations were among the first to respond to the full-scale invasion.
To support these efforts, UN Women has allocated, through its Peace and Humanitarian Fund, over $14.6 million to finance over 120 civil society organizations that support women and girls inside Ukraine and those displaced in Moldova.
To date, the United Nations has verified 173 cases of conflict-related sexual violence against 112 men, 57 women, and four girls.
The Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine has said that such incidents of sexual violence may amount to war crimes.
The massive human rights violations have not spared children.
Their schools and hospitals are destroyed jeopardizing their right to education and health. To date, OHCHR has verified 824 and 403 attacks on educational and medical facilities, respectively.
We welcome the signing on 18 August of a plan by the UN and the Government of Ukraine to prevent grave violations against children.
However, we regret that the UN still does not have the necessary access to verify allegations of violations against [Ukrainian] children in the territory of Ukraine under Russian control or in the Russian Federation itself, including children allegedly transferred to the Russian Federation.
Madam President,
We are also concerned about the possible impact on civilians of the shelling of Russian border communities and drone attacks deep inside Russia, including Moscow.
Attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure – wherever they may occur – are indefensible and strictly prohibited under international law.
Regarding humanitarian assistance, the UN and its partners continue to deliver aid to those in need.
Limited access to Russian controlled areas of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine hampers our aid operations. We continue to seek potential avenues to expand access to these areas.
The Ukraine Humanitarian Response Plan has now received over $1.7 billion – or 44 per cent – of the $3.9 billion required through the end of 2023. While we extend our gratitude to the generosity of donors, continued contributions are needed to ensure timely delivery of assistance, including through Ukraine’s harsh winter season.
Madam President,
Today’s grim milestone of 18 months of war coincides with the 32nd anniversary of Ukraine’s independence.
I would like to congratulate the Ukrainian people today and take this occasion to stress, once again, that the UN’s commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity within it internationally recognized borders is unwavering.
Similarly, and recognizing the growing calls around the world for an end to the war, I reiterate the UN’s commitment to support all meaningful efforts to achieve a just and sustainable peace in Ukraine, in line with the UN Charter, international law and relevant General Assembly resolutions.
Thank you.
USG DiCarlo reiterates the UN's commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity | Department of Political and Peacebuilding Affairs
UNDER-SECRETARY-GENERAL ROSEMARY A. DICARLO’S REMARKS TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL ON UKRAINE New York, 24 AUGUST 2023 Madam President, Today marks a year and a half since the Russian Federation launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Eighteen months of death, destruction, and unimaginable...
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That's a great idea, but they might not be smart enough or organized enough for it, perhaps with the aid of a mutiny in the army. It would cause HUGE problems for Putin as many in the enclave want to go with an EU country if given the choice, even the military, they get a lot of western news, some of it in Russian.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
interesting read.Clausewitz has been somewhat debunked, I recently read. He is perhaps of more interest to historians probing the attitudes of the time than to students of mechanized warfare.
I turned up this nugget: his famous aphorism has been mistranslated badly enough to effectively invert what he was trying to convey.
Everything You Know About Clausewitz Is Wrong
A botched translation of Clausewitz has had an enduring impact on our thinking on warfare.thediplomat.com
Why we should stop teaching Clausewitz
Carl von Clausewitz is one of the most profound military thinkers of all time. His famous book On War is our bible and he is a god among military strategists. But we should stop teaching Clausewitz in the U.S. military.
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Mind you, the Wagnerites might still be pro-invade Ukraine. I would just be hoping they would scare the heck out of Moscow and the hardware they would have in the port. Might even have to use a tactical nuke to take them out. Once the port is destroyed there is no reason for Russia to retain the area and it can revert back to Germany who can then give it to Poland. Then again, they probably do have some nukes there and Moscow would have to think twice. Yes, I am concerned with the general public but getting rid of the Russian problem once and for all could get us to concern ourselves with other parts of the world that needs cleaning up also. Of course I am not serious but just thinkin'.
DIY-HP-LED
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Ya want to put as much heat on Vlad as ya can, the big picture involves him flying out a window and if some Wagner fans had their way that is where he would be. It might be like killing Trump to some Russians, in that it would piss off some of them enough to do something suicidal but dangerous. Vlad is cracking down and will soon need to conscript hundreds of thousands of men for a very unpopular war among many, most know what the Russian army is like and what to expect by now.
Proggies murder might yet spawn a coup, especially if they get an ass kicking in Ukraine and it appears they might when the Ukrainians work their way through the outer mine defenses. They can't mine behind their own lines much and need to move around themselves, besides it would take billions of mines to cover the front in any depth. I think the further they go the less mines and the more freedom of maneuver; they must know where most are because drones were watching them be buried, I figure, most are mapped, and they should have people matching up the data with maps, even in a general way or perhaps mapped down to the centimeter with GPS.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I don’t think Nato should allow Russia to use a nuke, even internally, without immediate and severe consequence. Otherwise this sets a grave precedent in terms of normalizing nuclear weapon use. Both the threat and the action of deterrence need to compel even the hottest heads in Russia to say “well, we will never do that again!”
DIY-HP-LED
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China would be most displeased by the use of nukes and said as much, nukes used on Russians inside Russia would probably spark what Putin fears most, a coup.
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Maybe send a nuke their way if they did?
BudmanTX
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Looks like UA is in range of Tomak, artillery is already falling....
Command post is eliminated.....with a missile strike
Command post is eliminated.....with a missile strike