TRUMP CONVICTED

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
If someone gets attacked or hurt because of Trump it could change his situation considerably, if he continues to incite his fans with lies in order to threaten witnesses. Donald is facing a new reality in DC the DOJ might be reluctant to jail him, but the judge might not be, even when threatened with impeachment by Kevin's house. Donald isn't good at adapting, and he had better learn how soon or he might end up in jail.

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Hugo Phurst

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CNN

Former President Donald Trump on Saturday lashed out at Mike Pence, his former vice president and GOP presidential primary opponent, calling him “delusional” and “not a very good person.”

“WOW, it’s finally happened! Liddle’ Mike Pence, a man who was about to be ousted as Governor Indiana until I came along and made him V.P., has gone to the Dark Side,” Trump said in a Truth Social post.

“I never told a newly emboldened (not based on his 2% poll numbers!) Pence to put me above the Constitution, or that Mike was ‘too honest,’” Trump added. “He’s delusional, and now he wants to show he’s a tough guy.”


Sounds like a violation of his terms of release.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Pence is a prime witness against Trump, and he is publicly threatening him. I can't see this going well for Donald even if Jack says nothing, Donald is pushing the boundaries fast and might be in for a nasty surprise from a very nasty judge.

I figure if she jails Trump Kevin's house might vote to impeach her, but I doubt it would even pass his own house. The magats will howl, but many republicans will be silent, the faster he is removed from the field the better for them, if he was jailed until trial. Mitch and others forced to suck his ass would be delighted but would say or do little and the other GOP nominees would take advantage of jail bird Trump's situation. With jail comes a muzzle and limited visits from his minions, Kevin and MTG would be making the weekly trek as jail visitors. Except for his court dates we won't hear much about Donald except from his visitors and he would appear in his many court cases dressed in an orange jump suit, including his Georgia TV trial.

Imagine Donald in a Georgia courtroom on TV dressed in an orange jumpsuit, the images and memes would be all over the internet and TV. What a campaign poster for Biden, an image of Donald in orange at his arraignment in Georgia. He won't show up on his jet, transportation would be provided by the feds.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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It occurred to me that Pence could get Trump locked up by "baiting" him carefully in public. Trump would flip out and start threatening Pence publicly and since he is the prime witness against Trump in a DC trial... Pence could provide a service to the GOP and Mitch by clearing the field of Trump and muzzling him almost a year and a half before the election and well before the primaries begin. Donald fucks up all the time remember, so why should this time be any different? Indeed, if other republican candidates start attacking him and saying he will be in prison, Donald will have to respond in his usual way, and they will be rid of him. Donald will fuck himself, if he is setup to do it and this judge will put him in jail until trial if she has to, so bait Trump, piss him off, get him mouthing off and threatening people and she will put him in jail. First, I figure she is gonna tear a strip off him in court and give him more warnings than she would give to others before the hammer drops. She might jail him for a few days or a week to give him a taste and the taste might drive him nuts when he realizes this is how it will be until he dies.

 

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Lauro says Trump ‘asked’ Pence to overturn election in ‘aspirational’ way
John Lauro, one of former President Trump’s defense attorneys in a case involving attempts to overturn the 2020 election, said Trump “asked” former Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election results in an “aspirational” way, giving a glimpse into possible defenses by his team.

In an interview that aired Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Lauro argued that Trump was exercising his First Amendment right by asking Pence to throw out Electoral College votes from certain states, seeking to draw a distinction between “asking” and “directing” Pence to take actions on that day.
“Asking is aspirational. Asking is not action. It’s core free speech. The Press should be defending free speech,” Lauro told CNN’s Dana Bash.

“What President Trump was doing is within the reality and the realm of free speech. He’s asking his vice president, ‘What about taking this course of action?’ Ultimately, his vice president rejected all of the proposals that were made,” Lauro later added. “What President Trump did not do is direct Vice President Pence to do anything. He asked him in an aspirational way. Asking is covered by the First Amendment.”

In the latest federal indictment against Trump, which charges the former president with crimes related to his efforts to stay in power after the 2020 election, Trump’s pressure campaign on Pence to cooperate with his plan is detailed at length.

Trump, according to the indictment, on multiple occasions asked Pence to stop the counting of Electoral College votes by Congress in his capacity at the time as vice president, who oversees the process typically in a ceremonial way.

At one point, as noted in the indictment, Trump told Pence that he was “too honest” when Pence told Trump that he did not believe it was within his authority to reject the counting of votes.

No, he did not tell him to do anything. But told everyone afterwards that Pence is a pussy for not doing what he "asked".
 

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Bill Barr says he’s willing to testify against Trump at Jan. 6 trial
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said he is willing to testify against former President Trump at his Jan. 6 trial.
Barr, who was appointed by Trump, responded “of course” when asked on CBS’s “Face the Nation” if he would be willing to appear as a witness in Trump’s trial over federal charges related to alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. He declined to answer whether he was interviewed by the special counsel in connection to the federal investigation.

Barr has been a staunch critic of the former president since he resigned from his post shortly after the 2020 election. He noted that the case brought by special counsel Jack Smith was a “challenging” one, but that he does not think it “runs afoul of the First Amendment.”

When asked about his interactions with Trump and how he told the former president there was no evidence of election fraud, Barr said that his investigations into the fraud “satisfied” the conclusions.

“Well, I go through that in my book in painstaking detail, but on three occasions at least, I told him in no uncertain terms, that there was no evidence of fraud that would have changed the outcome,” he said.

Trump was indicted last week over his attempts to stay in power after losing the 2020 presidential election to President Biden. In a 45-page indictment, the Justice Department alleges Trump engaged in a campaign of “dishonesty, fraud and conceit” to obstruct a “bedrock function” of a democracy. He pleaded not guilty to the charges on Thursday.
 

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Pence confirms he took notes on Trump about overturning election
Former Vice President Mike Pence has confirmed that he took notes on his conversations with former President Trump leading up to the Jan. 6 riot, as Trump repeatedly pressured him to reject the results of the 2020 election during the certification in Congress.

“From time to time, particularly at important moments, I had a practice of scribbling a note or two on my calendar, just to memorialize it and remember it,” Pence said in an interview with CBS’ “Face the Nation” that aired on Sunday.

“I generally didn’t make a practice of taking notes in meetings over the four-year period of time, but given the momentous events that were unfolding, I did take a few notes to remind myself of what had been said,” he added.

The four-count indictment brought against Trump on Tuesday over his efforts to remain in power after the 2020 election referenced Pence’s contemporaneous, and previously unreported, notes from the time.

The former vice president’s notes from a Jan. 4, 2021, meeting detailed various election fraud claims that Trump made, as he pushed Pence to send back or reject electoral votes during the Jan. 6 certification.

When Pence noted at the meeting that “even your own counsel is not saying I have that authority” to send the votes back to the states, Trump reportedly responded, “That’s okay, I prefer the other suggestion,” in which the former vice president would unilaterally reject the votes.
“Look, I’m a student of American history. I knew the founders of this country would never have given any one person the right to choose what Electoral College votes to accept and which ones to reject,” Pence said in the interview.

“I was very consistent with the president about that, and my recollections all reflect that,” he continued. “But you know, the end of the day, the president continued to hold to that view. But I knew what my duty was, and as I said, by God’s grace, we did our duty on that fateful day.”
 

Grandpapy

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Lauro says Trump ‘asked’ Pence to overturn election in ‘aspirational’ way
John Lauro, one of former President Trump’s defense attorneys in a case involving attempts to overturn the 2020 election, said Trump “asked” former Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election results in an “aspirational” way, giving a glimpse into possible defenses by his team.

In an interview that aired Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Lauro argued that Trump was exercising his First Amendment right by asking Pence to throw out Electoral College votes from certain states, seeking to draw a distinction between “asking” and “directing” Pence to take actions on that day.
“Asking is aspirational. Asking is not action. It’s core free speech. The Press should be defending free speech,” Lauro told CNN’s Dana Bash.

“What President Trump was doing is within the reality and the realm of free speech. He’s asking his vice president, ‘What about taking this course of action?’ Ultimately, his vice president rejected all of the proposals that were made,” Lauro later added. “What President Trump did not do is direct Vice President Pence to do anything. He asked him in an aspirational way. Asking is covered by the First Amendment.”

In the latest federal indictment against Trump, which charges the former president with crimes related to his efforts to stay in power after the 2020 election, Trump’s pressure campaign on Pence to cooperate with his plan is detailed at length.

Trump, according to the indictment, on multiple occasions asked Pence to stop the counting of Electoral College votes by Congress in his capacity at the time as vice president, who oversees the process typically in a ceremonial way.

At one point, as noted in the indictment, Trump told Pence that he was “too honest” when Pence told Trump that he did not believe it was within his authority to reject the counting of votes.

No, he did not tell him to do anything. But told everyone afterwards that Pence is a pussy for not doing what he "asked".
It's only fair that he gets aspirational justice.
 

MickFoster

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Bill Barr says he’s willing to testify against Trump at Jan. 6 trial
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said he is willing to testify against former President Trump at his Jan. 6 trial.
Barr, who was appointed by Trump, responded “of course” when asked on CBS’s “Face the Nation” if he would be willing to appear as a witness in Trump’s trial over federal charges related to alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. He declined to answer whether he was interviewed by the special counsel in connection to the federal investigation.

Barr has been a staunch critic of the former president since he resigned from his post shortly after the 2020 election. He noted that the case brought by special counsel Jack Smith was a “challenging” one, but that he does not think it “runs afoul of the First Amendment.”

When asked about his interactions with Trump and how he told the former president there was no evidence of election fraud, Barr said that his investigations into the fraud “satisfied” the conclusions.

“Well, I go through that in my book in painstaking detail, but on three occasions at least, I told him in no uncertain terms, that there was no evidence of fraud that would have changed the outcome,” he said.

Trump was indicted last week over his attempts to stay in power after losing the 2020 presidential election to President Biden. In a 45-page indictment, the Justice Department alleges Trump engaged in a campaign of “dishonesty, fraud and conceit” to obstruct a “bedrock function” of a democracy. He pleaded not guilty to the charges on Thursday.
Too little too late asshole........fuck you!
Where were your balls and morals when you were his AG?
You're partly responsible for this idiot by enabling him and the softening, or should I say lying, about the Mueller report.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Lauro says Trump ‘asked’ Pence to overturn election in ‘aspirational’ way
John Lauro, one of former President Trump’s defense attorneys in a case involving attempts to overturn the 2020 election, said Trump “asked” former Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election results in an “aspirational” way, giving a glimpse into possible defenses by his team.

In an interview that aired Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Lauro argued that Trump was exercising his First Amendment right by asking Pence to throw out Electoral College votes from certain states, seeking to draw a distinction between “asking” and “directing” Pence to take actions on that day.
“Asking is aspirational. Asking is not action. It’s core free speech. The Press should be defending free speech,” Lauro told CNN’s Dana Bash.

“What President Trump was doing is within the reality and the realm of free speech. He’s asking his vice president, ‘What about taking this course of action?’ Ultimately, his vice president rejected all of the proposals that were made,” Lauro later added. “What President Trump did not do is direct Vice President Pence to do anything. He asked him in an aspirational way. Asking is covered by the First Amendment.”

In the latest federal indictment against Trump, which charges the former president with crimes related to his efforts to stay in power after the 2020 election, Trump’s pressure campaign on Pence to cooperate with his plan is detailed at length.

Trump, according to the indictment, on multiple occasions asked Pence to stop the counting of Electoral College votes by Congress in his capacity at the time as vice president, who oversees the process typically in a ceremonial way.

At one point, as noted in the indictment, Trump told Pence that he was “too honest” when Pence told Trump that he did not believe it was within his authority to reject the counting of votes.

No, he did not tell him to do anything. But told everyone afterwards that Pence is a pussy for not doing what he "asked".
By that logic “if you go after me, I’m coming after you” actually means a gracious offer to play through at any of his clubs.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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As Justice Dept. seeks protective order, Trump issues new attack on Mike Pence

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Donald Trump’s latest threats on Truth Social are included in the Special Counsel's request for a protective order in the election interference case. Trump is also ramping up his attacks on his former Vice President Mike Pence, a potential key witness. MSNBC’s Alicia Menendez is joined by MSNBC National Security Analyst Frank Figliuzzi to discuss the Trump social media attacks and explains what steps may need to be taken to protect those trying to hold Trump accountable.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Mark might be able to lead Jack to congress, Mark knows where all the bodies are buried, and he doesn't want to go to jail. He has an EX DOJ-guy as a lawyer, the perfect guy to negotiate a deal for him and the more republican political heads he offers the sweeter the deal he will get, Jack doesn't need him to nail Trump, so his deal is for more than that. He will need to make a deal in Georgia too and Jack putting in a good word could make a world of difference for Mark there too. If he cuts a deal with the feds, he will have to spill the beans completely and tell them of any crimes by others he has knowledge of.

 

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More than half of Americans believe Trump tried to stay in office illegally: poll
More than half of Americans believe that former President Trump attempted to remain in office illegally, according to a new poll.
The new CBS News poll found that 51 percent of Americans think that Trump tried to stay in office beyond his term through “illegal and unconstitutional” means. Twenty-nine percent said he tried to stay in office using legal means and 20 percent said the former president did not attempt to stay in office.

The poll was conducted after Trump was indicted on four federal charges related to his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.
Fifty-four percent of respondents said that if Trump tried to overturn the election, they would consider it as undermining democracy. Seventeen percent said they would consider it as upholding democracy and 28 percent responded with neither.

Most Americans — about 59 percent — said that the investigations into Trump and the indictments against him are efforts to stop his 2024 presidential campaign. Fifty-seven percent said that they were to uphold the rule of law and 52 percent said they were to defend democracy.

More than a third of Americans said the investigations and indictments were personal, with 56 percent of Republicans saying that they were an attack on people like them, a familiar phrase Trump has echoed at his rallies. When polled among MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans, 77 percent of MAGA Republicans said the investigations and indictments were an attack on them compared to 42 percent of non-MAGA Republicans.

Republicans were also more likely than Democrats to say the investigations and indictments are an effort to stop Trump’s 2024 campaign, with 86 percent of Republicans sayings so and just 31 percent of Democrats. On the other hand, Democrats were more likely to say that the investigations and indictments are upholding the rule of law and defending democracy.

The CBS News/YouGov poll was conducted among 2,145 U.S. adults interviewed between August 2 to 4 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

that man asking that Chutkan recuse herself is the finest endorsement she could receive. “She might be fair, and we can’t have that!”

She’s too honest.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Trump arguably violates conditions of pretrial release AND tries to insult his way out of a DC trial

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Donald Trump seems to be inching closer every day to pretrial detention. Just days after he was placed on pretrial release in his criminal case in the District of Columbia and ordered not to threaten or intimidate the witnesses, he blasts one of the most sharply incriminating witnesses against him, his former Vice President Mike Pence. Judge Tanya Chutkan will very likely have something to say about that, in the form of a Show Cause Order.

In a second development, Trump posts a series of disgusting insults against the citizens of the District of Columbia, and then announces that he can't get a fair trial in DC because the DC residents don't like him. This is a pathetic and transparent attempt to orchestrate a change of venue - trying to have his criminal trial moved out of DC. This tactic won't work, as a defendant can not insult his way into a change of venue.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This should incite Donald to yet another threat, keep it up Mike and you'll get him locked up pretrial, ridding the GOP of its curse. :lol: Yer doing the Lord's work Mike!

 
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