War

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think the next guy would be more likely to admit they are losing and to change course.
You could be right. I have the feeling though that the oligarchs are milking the situation for their own gain with complete indifference to the plight of the people, which suggests a disincentive to do different.
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
This topic is called "War". There is my opinion about it. Some time ago I asked ukrainians in Telegram chat, why they do not explose the bridges and main roads, 15 seconds later I was banned by the chat's admin. The same question was the reason of my ban in russian chat. The bridges and main roads must be explosed - its a rule of any war. I'm talking about a war as a physical process. What we watch now on TV and in Internet is not a war, it is a show, bloody show. Regards.
i have a feeling your not from around here....

and btw what is explose/explosed? jc
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
what is wrong?
Labeling the situation in Ukraine “not a war but a show”, that’s wrong. So just to be clear, those who say there is a war are eating propaganda cause it’s just a show. Russia did not invade Ukraine? Fake news? Is that why Zelensky a former actor is president? You might be on to something… like some sort of radioactive mind control drug. Try starting this thread at post 1, maybe you’ll learn something new.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Labeling the situation in Ukraine “not a war but a show”, that’s wrong. So just to be clear, those who say there is a war are eating propaganda cause it’s just a show. Russia did not invade Ukraine? Fake news? Is that why Zelensky a former actor is president? You might be on to something… like some sort of radioactive mind control drug. Try starting this thread at post 1, maybe you’ll learn something new.
Wagner's internet troll farms were fired by Putin and they are looking for something to do.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Labeling the situation in Ukraine “not a war but a show”, that’s wrong. So just to be clear, those who say there is a war are eating propaganda cause it’s just a show. Russia did not invade Ukraine? Fake news? Is that why Zelensky a former actor is president? You might be on to something… like some sort of radioactive mind control drug. Try starting this thread at post 1, maybe you’ll learn something new.
Printer has shown us how comprehensive the disinformation on Russian media is and has been.

If our new contestant is consuming a steady diet of that stuff,
1) it explains a few things
2) arguing otherwise in the hope of shifting [his] attitude is futile. It’s like (arguing with) a maga, but under another flag.

Also, our media diet regarding Ukraine is lean on verified fact and long on analysis. I find it takes weeks to get a decent picture of who is doing what to whom over there.

Though the Wagnerites doing a road trip was a brief brisk change of pace.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Yes, that is a show, bloody show. You eat your propaganda, with your heroes and victims, what is wrong?
If you want to talk about shows, how about the soap opera that unfolded when the Putin and Prigozhin bromance broke up. LOL what a shit show. Prigozhin threw a hissy fit when he learned that Putin was giving him and his services to another lover as a gift, treating him like he was chattel (actually proving that he was). Oh the pearl clutching Prigozhin broadcast in his video just before he stormed off to Moscow so that the could tell his former lover off! Then Papa Lukashenko appeared onstage to calm the two down and provide a means for them to avoid conflict while not exactly making up. The show ended with Prigozhin "explaining" it was all in the name of protesting injustice and not what it was, an attempted coup.

What a shit show. lulz

The next installment is forthcoming. A cliffhanger is coming where Putin's life is in jeopardy. Will his former lover come to the rescue?

probably not. :bigjoint:
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
If our new contestant is consuming a steady diet of that stuff,
1) it explains a few things
2) arguing otherwise in the hope of shifting [his] attitude is futile. It’s like (arguing with) a maga, but under another flag.

Also, our media diet regarding Ukraine is lean on verified fact and long on analysis. I find it takes weeks to get a decent picture of who is doing what to whom over there.
Yeah I hear you, no intention to feed. That last part is why I asked clarification. I‘m well aware we’re all influenced to some extend by propaganda, just checking if he’s really suggesting the entire war by itself is propaganda and what we see is not really what‘s happening. Looks like he just confirmed in previous post.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I really don't know what to answer on your comments, the americans. I see, that you eat your propaganda, as well as I do this. Just listen to my words - Zelensky, Putin, Trump, Hitler, Jesus, Judas, Ilon Mask, etc - that is an artificial images, created for us. Follow to them or ignore them - its our choise. I prefer ignore of any symbols. Regards.
We don't have state run news, it's all private here, even "public broadcasting" is an independent service.
I personally don't watch news on tv, i read it, from a variety of source all over the world, and try to draw my conclusions from them.
I use AP, Reuters, Aljazeera, BBC, NYT, NPR, and , with an eye to their bias, fox, cnn, wapo, politico....
And i do not see things the way you do at all.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Yeah I hear you, no intention to feed. That last part is why I asked clarification. I‘m well aware we’re all influenced to some extend by propaganda, just checking if he’s really suggesting the entire war by itself is propaganda and what we see is not really what‘s happening. Looks like he just confirmed in previous post.
The business about “let’s make boom” strikes me as calculated to provoke sentiment.

What settled it for me is that a coupla posters presented reasoned arguments and got no reasoned rebuttal in return, just emotioneering. That’s when I got bored.

Bro. :bigjoint:
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I really don't know what to answer on your comments, the americans. I see, that you eat your propaganda, as well as I do this. Just listen to my words - Zelensky, Putin, Trump, Hitler, Jesus, Judas, Ilon Mask, etc - that is an artificial images, created for us. Follow to them or ignore them - its our choise. I prefer to ignore of any symbols. Regards.
Ha Ha Ha Ha

Too funny. You know it happened but can't admit it. Propaganda your ass. It was absolutely a shit show when the Wagner group marched in to the most important supply hub for the Russian Army's war effort, Rostov-on-Don, and Puitn's tail went between his legs. A city of a million people and the aorta to the prosecution of Putin's war was occupied without a shot. People celebrated!

People say that Putin got angry.

What was that all about?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Ha Ha Ha Ha

Too funny. You know it happened but can't admit it. Propaganda your ass. It was absolutely a shit show when the Wagner group marched in to the most important supply hub for the Russian Army's war effort, Rostov-on-Don, and Puitn's tail went between his legs. A city of a million people and the aorta to the prosecution of Putin's war was occupied without a shot. People celebrated!

People say that Putin got angry.

What was that all about?
It was the autocrat version of this.

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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
We don't worry too much about our global Anglo culture and language being subsumed, but small countries and cultures do, especially those in Europe. We have it in Quebec too, where the French culture is perceived to be under assault and being absorbed by the continental Anglo language and culture. Then there is the urban rural divide that seems to exist everywhere.

 

printer

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It was the autocrat version of this.

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This happened to me years ago. Mind you I was wearing a pair of shorts and was enjoying a beer leaned up against the bar. One of the yahoo's from work decided that it would be funny. I just picked up my shorts from my ankles and made myself look presentable again. Everybody was watching the band so no one noticed me being bare-assed for a brief period of time.
 
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