Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 28.0%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 26.1%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 72 45.9%

  • Total voters
    157

HGCC

Well-Known Member
Not really global warming, but a tornado went through where I live in south Denver. Didn't even disturb my garden beds, but all around there is decent amount of property damage.

Kinda wild, we don't even have sirens as tornadoes aren't supposed to happen there, they occasionally spot them out by the airport that is situated pretty far east of the city where its very flat and barren. We get very strong winds, but never rotation.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Unobtanium wrapped in concentric layers of carbon nanotubes... :lol:

an extremely rare material at 70C , 10,000 atmospheres pressure and we can't say why it becomes a very good conductor or if it is really a superconductor. BUT replicating results in a different lab is notable.

“It makes me think there might be something to it.”

Don't get me wrong though. I've seen too much of this kind of work fade to black.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
an extremely rare material at 70C , 10,000 atmospheres pressure and we can't say why it becomes a very good conductor or if it is really a superconductor. BUT replicating results in a different lab is notable.

“It makes me think there might be something to it.”

Don't get me wrong though. I've seen too much of this kind of work fade to black.
I was doing postgraduate work when cold fusion hit like a water balloon.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member

Plastic doughnuts? Have you lost your mind!?

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Is there really a link between plastic and doughnuts? Well, perhaps a very tenuous one, at least. Keeping plastic out of landfill and waterways means reusing it as part of a circular economy. Several new starts up are now doing just that, providing structural blocks for the construction industry, as well as a multitude of other products. But what about the doughnut? Well, you'll just have to watch and see :-)
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-has-a-surprise-weapon-for-farmers-worldwide

I have no idea what weapon they were talking about, unless it's mucks mouth, which spews ignorant, uninformed decisions every time it opens.

America has made large improvements to the way it raises cattle, at least if you aren't a cow, and has cut the number of dairy AND beef cattle needed to meet America's needs by close to 50% since the 1990s, But most of the rest of the world has not, and they produce about 14% of global emissions.
https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/making-cattle-more-sustainable
i trust Johns Hopkins and UC Davis WAY more than i trust muck...i think i'll go with their opinion over his.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-has-a-surprise-weapon-for-farmers-worldwide

I have no idea what weapon they were talking about, unless it's mucks mouth, which spews ignorant, uninformed decisions every time it opens.
Owner of Tesla downplaying the effect agriculture and ‘meat’ has on the climate… that won’t help boost Tesla EV sales at least not in Europe. With these comments he’s siding with right-winged populists pretending to give a shit about the future of farmers and using the urban/rural divide as another binary to exploit.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Owner of Tesla downplaying the effect agriculture and ‘meat’ has on the climate… that won’t help boost Tesla EV sales at least not in Europe. With these comments he’s siding with right-winged populists pretending to give a shit about the future of farmers and using the urban/rural divide as another binary to exploit.
I’m conflicted. I like a ribeye.

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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-has-a-surprise-weapon-for-farmers-worldwide

I have no idea what weapon they were talking about, unless it's mucks mouth, which spews ignorant, uninformed decisions every time it opens.

America has made large improvements to the way it raises cattle, at least if you aren't a cow, and has cut the number of dairy AND beef cattle needed to meet America's needs by close to 50% since the 1990s, But most of the rest of the world has not, and they produce about 14% of global emissions.
https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/making-cattle-more-sustainable
i trust Johns Hopkins and UC Davis WAY more than i trust muck...i think i'll go with their opinion over his.
I saw an article today that stated that Skum reserves a special hatred for Paul Ehrlich, who wrote The Population Bomb. He says that Ehrlich “did lasting damage to the planet”.

I suspect that is because it convinced Aryan stock to breed less. I could be wrong.

In any case, he appears to believe environmentalism gets in the way of his expansionist/Lebensraum ideas.

I further suggest that is why he is pinning his hopes on Shartsip making mass space teavel
cheap.

He wants to make the red planet white.

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printer

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Insurers pull back from vulnerable states amid climate risks
The insurance industry is increasingly wary of the risks presented by climate and natural disasters, prompting major firms to scale back their presence in more vulnerable states.

In June, Farmers Insurance announced in a company memo it will no longer write new property insurance policies in Florida, citing “catastrophe costs … at historically high levels.” Earlier in the month, AIG stopped issuing policies along the Sunshine State’s hurricane-vulnerable coastline.

Those followed State Farm, California’s largest homeowners’ insurer, which in May announced a moratorium on new policies in the state, blaming “rapidly growing catastrophe exposure.” The decision came after years of devastating wildfires have sent insurance rates in California skyrocketing.

Eric Andersen, president of consulting firm Aon plc, said in testimony before the Senate Budget Committee in March that reinsurance companies — the firms that help insurers pay out costs — have also stepped back from high-risk areas, particularly those vulnerable to flooding and wildfires.

“Just as the U.S. economy was overexposed to mortgage risk in 2008, the economy today is overexposed to climate risk,” he said.

The industry is feeling the pinch beyond the East and West coasts, as well, according to Mark Friedlander, director of corporate communications at the Insurance Information Institute. He noted that dozens of firms have reduced their presence in Louisiana, including 50 that have stopped writing new policies in the state’s hurricane-prone parishes.

“This isn’t just a story about Florida and California — all over the country, there are insurers who are less willing to take risks,” from those along major rivers to areas vulnerable to tornadoes, said Benjamin Keys, an assistant professor of real estate at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School.

Louisiana, in particular, has gotten less attention than California and Florida, but the state’s insurance industry has been steamrolled by recent intense storm seasons.

“Many smaller, undercapitalized insurers in Louisiana were not able to handle the volume of losses from the 2020-2021 hurricane season,” Friedlander said.

The industry, which has historically taken a more reactive approach to disasters, is shifting its strategy as such events become harder to ignore, he added.

“The industry’s taking the approach now of what’s called predict and prevent, meaning being proactive to address climate risk and make sure insurance coverage reflects that and make sure homes and business take preventative action,” Friedlander told The Hill.

He noted that while Farmers made headlines, it’s the 15th insurer to stop writing new policies in Florida in the last 18 months. Although most of those companies have not pulled out of the state outright, he added, three have.

“Insurers are in many ways the first movers” in response to trends like extreme weather and natural disasters, Keys said. “They have a significant amount of money at stake, so they’re very exposed to the downside.”

Florida is in a unique position, Friedlander said, because of a combination of high fraud rates and widespread litigation, which both compound the cost of insurance on top of the climate risks. A state law enacted this year creates a backstop for property insurance in hopes of alleviating some costs, but it’s not yet clear how effectively it will counteract those factors, which have been building for years.

“The difference is in California and Louisiana, [insurance costs are] primarily climate-driven,” he said. “They don’t have the manmade factors we have here in Florida.”

Florida also has a longer history of insurers coming and going, Keys added, going back to Hurricane Andrew in 1992, the most destructive hurricane in terms of property damage in the state’s history.

“What that’s meant is that the insurer of last resort in the state, Citizens Insurance, has become the largest insurer in the state,” he said, on top of the federal flood insurance program.

“There isn’t an equivalent for wildfires in California, so the risks in California are borne much more directly.”

Keys also noted that the decisions don’t mean the insurers will never write policies or operate in the state again. Rather, he said, they should be understood as a way for insurers to negotiate, both on what they can charge in premiums and what factors they can weigh.

“It’s not that [insurers] don’t want to do business in your state, it’s that [they] don’t want to do business at the current premiums [they] can charge,” he said.

In the meantime, however, none of the climate risks and natural disasters in question show any signs of letting up.

In March, Florida’s state insurer said its funds were “significantly depleted” by 2022’s Hurricane Ian, and it will be forced to collect the deficit of $14 billion from policyholders if the state sees a major hurricane in 2023.

On the West Coast, the National Interagency Fire Center said at the beginning of June that it projects “likely above normal temperatures” in the West this summer.

“Clearly insurers are looking at this predict and prevent approach and they’re also addressing risk exposure and looking at where they can profitably do business,” Friedlander said. “We’re going to see more companies making similar decisions.”
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Insurers pull back from vulnerable states amid climate risks
The insurance industry is increasingly wary of the risks presented by climate and natural disasters, prompting major firms to scale back their presence in more vulnerable states.

In June, Farmers Insurance announced in a company memo it will no longer write new property insurance policies in Florida, citing “catastrophe costs … at historically high levels.” Earlier in the month, AIG stopped issuing policies along the Sunshine State’s hurricane-vulnerable coastline.

Those followed State Farm, California’s largest homeowners’ insurer, which in May announced a moratorium on new policies in the state, blaming “rapidly growing catastrophe exposure.” The decision came after years of devastating wildfires have sent insurance rates in California skyrocketing.

Eric Andersen, president of consulting firm Aon plc, said in testimony before the Senate Budget Committee in March that reinsurance companies — the firms that help insurers pay out costs — have also stepped back from high-risk areas, particularly those vulnerable to flooding and wildfires.

“Just as the U.S. economy was overexposed to mortgage risk in 2008, the economy today is overexposed to climate risk,” he said.

The industry is feeling the pinch beyond the East and West coasts, as well, according to Mark Friedlander, director of corporate communications at the Insurance Information Institute. He noted that dozens of firms have reduced their presence in Louisiana, including 50 that have stopped writing new policies in the state’s hurricane-prone parishes.

“This isn’t just a story about Florida and California — all over the country, there are insurers who are less willing to take risks,” from those along major rivers to areas vulnerable to tornadoes, said Benjamin Keys, an assistant professor of real estate at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School.

Louisiana, in particular, has gotten less attention than California and Florida, but the state’s insurance industry has been steamrolled by recent intense storm seasons.

“Many smaller, undercapitalized insurers in Louisiana were not able to handle the volume of losses from the 2020-2021 hurricane season,” Friedlander said.

The industry, which has historically taken a more reactive approach to disasters, is shifting its strategy as such events become harder to ignore, he added.

“The industry’s taking the approach now of what’s called predict and prevent, meaning being proactive to address climate risk and make sure insurance coverage reflects that and make sure homes and business take preventative action,” Friedlander told The Hill.

He noted that while Farmers made headlines, it’s the 15th insurer to stop writing new policies in Florida in the last 18 months. Although most of those companies have not pulled out of the state outright, he added, three have.

“Insurers are in many ways the first movers” in response to trends like extreme weather and natural disasters, Keys said. “They have a significant amount of money at stake, so they’re very exposed to the downside.”

Florida is in a unique position, Friedlander said, because of a combination of high fraud rates and widespread litigation, which both compound the cost of insurance on top of the climate risks. A state law enacted this year creates a backstop for property insurance in hopes of alleviating some costs, but it’s not yet clear how effectively it will counteract those factors, which have been building for years.

“The difference is in California and Louisiana, [insurance costs are] primarily climate-driven,” he said. “They don’t have the manmade factors we have here in Florida.”

Florida also has a longer history of insurers coming and going, Keys added, going back to Hurricane Andrew in 1992, the most destructive hurricane in terms of property damage in the state’s history.

“What that’s meant is that the insurer of last resort in the state, Citizens Insurance, has become the largest insurer in the state,” he said, on top of the federal flood insurance program.

“There isn’t an equivalent for wildfires in California, so the risks in California are borne much more directly.”

Keys also noted that the decisions don’t mean the insurers will never write policies or operate in the state again. Rather, he said, they should be understood as a way for insurers to negotiate, both on what they can charge in premiums and what factors they can weigh.

“It’s not that [insurers] don’t want to do business in your state, it’s that [they] don’t want to do business at the current premiums [they] can charge,” he said.

In the meantime, however, none of the climate risks and natural disasters in question show any signs of letting up.

In March, Florida’s state insurer said its funds were “significantly depleted” by 2022’s Hurricane Ian, and it will be forced to collect the deficit of $14 billion from policyholders if the state sees a major hurricane in 2023.

On the West Coast, the National Interagency Fire Center said at the beginning of June that it projects “likely above normal temperatures” in the West this summer.

“Clearly insurers are looking at this predict and prevent approach and they’re also addressing risk exposure and looking at where they can profitably do business,” Friedlander said. “We’re going to see more companies making similar decisions.”
Republicans will pass laws and force them to do business there, climate change is a hoax to them.
 
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