Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 28.0%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 26.1%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 72 45.9%

  • Total voters
    157

Sativied

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The comments on that tweet are just insane. Backwards cliches. If all stoves we’re electric and someone suggested to replace them with gas stoves there wouldn’t even be a discussion. The best reason to replace a gas stove with an electric one is just that, to replace the gas stove. Second comes climate, politics isn’t on the list.

Are extractor hoods not standard in NA?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The comments on that tweet are just insane. Backwards cliches. If all stoves we’re electric and someone suggested to replace them with gas stoves there wouldn’t even be a discussion. The best reason to replace a gas stove with an electric one is just that, to replace the gas stove. Second comes climate, politics isn’t on the list.

Are extractor hoods not standard in NA?
no, only commercially, residentially, they put in a hood, but they aren't fucking vented anywhere, they just blow shit out into the rest of your house.... :dunce:
 

bursto

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is that why yall dank grows so good in the northern hemisphere, increased co2 levels cool :weed:

more beach days and your dank is happy whats the down side so a few polar bears die and some islands disappear bongsmilie
 
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bursto

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dumb white bears they better learn how to get along with the other bears on dry land and theres more fishing spots for humans, sucks to be a polar bear right now

im joking just seeing that makes me wonder why we dont value the polar regions more
 
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printer

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dumb white bears they better learn how to get along with the other bears on dry land and theres more fishing spots for humans, sucks to be a polar bear right now

im joking just seeing that makes me wonder why we dont value the polar regions more
Not in my back yard.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The EU is looking at regulations to make batteries in devices like cell phones replaceable, however it might be the devices that are replaced before the batteries. I'm wondering what the longevity of such batteries will do to the EV market, will it lead to standardized battery packs and EVs sold without a battery. The car might be shot after 20 years, but the battery could power another 4 or five of them! If an EV lasts 20 years, these batteries could power 5 generations of them and still do another 30 as a house or garage battery bank! A lot of people would do the majority of charging at home with a 1000km range EV, so maximum pack life.

They're starting a gigafactory in Michigan to make these soon.


Chinese manufacturer Gotion High-Tech has announced a new battery pack will go into mass production in 2024 that it says will deliver range of up to 1,000kms for a single charge and could last two million kms.

The company says the manganese doped L600 LMFP Astroinno will be able to do 4,000 full cycles at room temperature, and at high temperature will get 1800 cycles and over 1500 cycles of 18-minute fast charging.

These incredibly high cycle numbers mean the battery could essentially last 2 million km before it starts to deteriorate. To put that into context, the average Australian car travels around 15,000 km per year so it would take 130 years worth of average driving to reach 2 million km mark.

Gotion High-Tech says the battery single-cell density is 240Wh/kg and that improvements in pack design have increased overall battery pack energy density to a point where 1000km range pack is possible with the highly durable chemistry.
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
dumb white bears they better learn how to get along with the other bears on dry land and theres more fishing spots for humans, sucks to be a polar bear right now

im joking just seeing that makes me wonder why we dont value the polar regions more
don’t talk trash about white bears
 

HGCC

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no, only commercially, residentially, they put in a hood, but they aren't fucking vented anywhere, they just blow shit out into the rest of your house.... :dunce:
That does crack me up, wtf is the point of those things.

Whole house fans are pretty legit though, flip a switch and it sucks all the air in the house right out.
 

Sativied

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How To Convert A Gas-Powered Car To An Electric Vehicle

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Interest in electric vehicles is at an all time high, with sales of new EVs up 55 percent in 2022 compared to the year prior. But there are still a lot of gas cars on the road today and there will be for a long time. EV conversions are becoming a bigger trend that could help. Both the shops and aftermarket community are growing substantially to meet the new demand. CNBC explores what it takes to convert a gas-powered car to an electric vehicle and whether it could go mainstream.
This has been tried and tested for years already. Conclusion is it’s useful for keeping old timers on the road. For modern fossil cars it’s mostly an excercise in wasting money, complicated ironically by the electronics in the fossil car. For most large fossil cars, which are already heavy, it’s not a real option that will ever become a trend.

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The cost of having a VW T2 van converted, including the cost of the van itself, is close to buying a new ID.Buzz, and more than a used one that will be able to handle a lot more use than a converted fossil car. Old cars in europe get shipped to Africa, or driven to Turkey where you have failed in life till you own a bmw or mercedes. There’s no money to save, it’s for hobbyists and enthusiasts.

It could still be interesting to convert to a hybrid, if for example Lightyear would start selling its wheels with integrated motor. Kinda like these for bikes:

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Again stuff that reads like it was posted a decade ago. The switch to EVs is going so fast there’s no major demand for such intermediate (non-)solutions.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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This has been tried and tested for years already. Conclusion is it’s useful for keeping old timers on the road. For modern fossil cars it’s mostly an excercise in wasting money, complicated ironically by the electronics in the fossil car. For most large fossil cars, which are already heavy, it’s not a real option that will ever become a trend.

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The cost of having a VW T2 van converted, including the cost of the van itself, is close to buying a new ID.Buzz, and more than a used one that will be able to handle a lot more use than a converted fossil car. Old cars in europe get shipped to Africa, or driven to Turkey where you have failed in life till you own a bmw or mercedes. There’s no money to save, it’s for hobbyists and enthusiasts.

It could still be interesting to convert to a hybrid, if for example Lightyear would start selling its wheels with integrated motor. Kinda like these for bikes:

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Again stuff that reads like it was posted a decade ago. The switch to EVs is going so fast there’s no major demand for such intermediate (non-)solutions.
Strictly hobbyist niche stuff, though better batteries could improve their range and utility.

It looks like the batteries could greatly outlast the vehicles soon and they might be switched to new cars sold without one using standardized packs. Some of these new batteries coming out next year promise up to 4000 recharge cycles enough for 130 years of average driving! The battery pack could power 5 successive EVs for 20 years each, yer grand kids could inherit it FFS!
 

Sativied

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That does crack me up, wtf is the point of those things.

Whole house fans are pretty legit though, flip a switch and it sucks all the air in the house right out.
It’s illegal in NL to not have the “off-suck hood” connected to a hole in the wall or roof since 2006 (rentals and new homes, home owners still free to give themselves cancer or copd). Probably EU regulations that apply too. Comes with a universal healtchare system and the solidarity it requires, nobody wants to see the premiums go up because of unhealthy avoidable choices others make.
 

Sativied

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Strictly hobbyist niche stuff, though better batteries could improve their range and utility.

It looks like the batteries could greatly outlast the vehicles soon and they might be switched to new cars sold without one using standardized packs. Some of these new batteries coming out next year promise up to 4000 recharge cycles enough for 130 years of average driving! The battery pack could power 5 successive EVs for 20 years each, yer grand kids could inherit it FFS!

Buy a Fiat 500e 2013 model from California, only $5k-10k, stash in a shed and maybe someday it’ll be cheap and easy to upgrade its 87mile range.

As interesting as the battery innovations are, it’s mostly marketing and hype to attract investors. Some will boom, maybe sell a few patents, most will bust.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The EU is looking at regulations to make batteries in devices like cell phones replaceable, however it might be the devices that are replaced before the batteries. I'm wondering what the longevity of such batteries will do to the EV market, will it lead to standardized battery packs and EVs sold without a battery. The car might be shot after 20 years, but the battery could power another 4 or five of them! If an EV lasts 20 years, these batteries could power 5 generations of them and still do another 30 as a house or garage battery bank! A lot of people would do the majority of charging at home with a 1000km range EV, so maximum pack life.

They're starting a gigafactory in Michigan to make these soon.


Chinese manufacturer Gotion High-Tech has announced a new battery pack will go into mass production in 2024 that it says will deliver range of up to 1,000kms for a single charge and could last two million kms.

The company says the manganese doped L600 LMFP Astroinno will be able to do 4,000 full cycles at room temperature, and at high temperature will get 1800 cycles and over 1500 cycles of 18-minute fast charging.

These incredibly high cycle numbers mean the battery could essentially last 2 million km before it starts to deteriorate. To put that into context, the average Australian car travels around 15,000 km per year so it would take 130 years worth of average driving to reach 2 million km mark.

Gotion High-Tech says the battery single-cell density is 240Wh/kg and that improvements in pack design have increased overall battery pack energy density to a point where 1000km range pack is possible with the highly durable chemistry.
considering that most EVs struggle to get 5km/kWh, that’s over 800 kg of battery.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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considering that most EVs struggle to get 5km/kWh, that’s over 800 kg of battery.
A lot depends on what you drive, a compact car or a kilowatt guzzling SUV or half ton. I'm just going by what the LMFP battery promises, 600 mi/1000km range and 4000 recharge cycles when charged from home at a lower rate as many would do. They are building a factory to make this battery in Michigan among other places. However, a 600-mile range, a long-life, lower cost battery pack should resolve the main issues with buying an EV for many. It is just one approach among many that will bring us better cheaper batteries used for devices, EVs and renewable energy storage over the next decade.
 
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