Chlorine Friendly Nutrients In Canada

OldMedUser

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The Older Guy said:
I'll try that sometime, and see what happens. Do you do that in hydro as well as soil? I guess trying different things is the only way to find out what works. In the past I haven't been terribly adventures lol.
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I did a multiple reveg with a DWC tub many years ago and would cut the roots back to an inch under the net pots each time and they grew back real quick. Otherwise I didn't cut any hydro roots but would have no qualms doing so.

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OldMedUser said:
I did a multiple reveg with a DWC tub many years ago and would cut the roots back to an inch under the net pots each time and they grew back real quick. Otherwise I didn't cut any hydro roots but would have no qualms doing so.

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I see; if I have roots hanging below the main root ball I'll probably trim them off.
 
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Enzymes Komplete arrived and added .5 ml/L. A fair amount of foaming in the pots, but not overwhelming and just a bit in the res. I'm thinking that might be because the res is almost 4' square so there is a lot of surface area.
 
myke

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The Older Guy said:
Enzymes Komplete arrived and added .5 ml/L. A fair amount of foaming in the pots, but not overwhelming and just a bit in the res. I'm thinking that might be because the res is almost 4' square so there is a lot of surface area.
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Good to here,I use to do bubble clones and added it there also.I didnt stick to a schedule just used it here and there.Once you bump it up a little getting foam to come out the top of your net pots will help kill anything in there.
 
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myke said:
Good to here,I use to do bubble clones and added it there also.I didnt stick to a schedule just used it here and there.Once you bump it up a little getting foam to come out the top of your net pots will help kill anything in there.
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I see myke. I changed all the nutes in the res and the pots today. I talked to the company rep in BC and he said to add 1.5 ml/L of 30% H2O2 and .5 ml/L of Enzymes Komplete to the res and every time water or nutes was added to add .5 ml/L of Enzymes Komplete. It's foaming pretty good, but I think to get it up the whole way through the net pot I may have to add a bit extra. Right now I would say it's going up about 1/4 of the pot. I bottom feed so I'm thinking it's pretty dry in the net pot, but I could pour some of the treated nutes down through or up the Enzymes Komplete so the foam goes up through. Am I right in thinking that it would be pretty dry through most of the pot, and if it is would anything grow there? I'll probably move some of the hydroten around to check it out.
 
myke

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Hmmm,well I always had a feeder line under the lid and into the net pot.You forsure could just scoop some from the res and pour it through.
I had also phoned the rep,cool dude was very helpful.
 
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myke said:
Hmmm,well I always had a feeder line under the lid and into the net pot.You forsure could just scoop some from the res and pour it through.
I had also phoned the rep,cool dude was very helpful.
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Yes, he was. Sounded very knowledgeable, and quiet a talker to, lol. From what he said I don't think Enzymes Komplete weakens between adding to the res. I've reduced the H2O2 to the recommended amount(1.5ml/L of 29% H2O2), so I'm hoping that Enzymes Komplete can do what he says. Even with the high peroxide(6ml of 29% H2O2/L) there was one plant that still had quiet a bit of root rot although looking at the plant you would never know it. The plant itself looks healthy. There is a lot less foam in that pot. I'm guessing it's because of the extra root rot that plant has. The rep said I could notice a difference in as little as a week. I guess I'll watch and keep my fingers crossed.

In another couple days I have to wash and soak more hydroten. I was thinking after the wash that I would soak it in water with Enzymes Komplete or Five Star Star San Sanitizer. Not sure which one would be better. There really shouldn't be anything much to kill in them anyway. Your thoughts...
 
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Forgot to mention. The Five Five Star Star San Sanitizer actually kills and is used in sanitizing things like beer making equipment where as the Enzymes Komplete, from what I understand eats away at dead material and cleans. So, maybe the Five Star Star San Sanitizer would be the one to use...
 
myke

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The Older Guy said:
Yes, he was. Sounded very knowledgeable, and quiet a talker to, lol. From what he said I don't think Enzymes Komplete weakens between adding to the res. I've reduced the H2O2 to the recommended amount(1.5ml/L of 29% H2O2), so I'm hoping that Enzymes Komplete can do what he says. Even with the high peroxide(6ml of 29% H2O2/L) there was one plant that still had quiet a bit of root rot although looking at the plant you would never know it. The plant itself looks healthy. There is a lot less foam in that pot. I'm guessing it's because of the extra root rot that plant has. The rep said I could notice a difference in as little as a week. I guess I'll watch and keep my fingers crossed.

In another couple days I have to wash and soak more hydroten. I was thinking after the wash that I would soak it in water with Enzymes Komplete or Five Star Star San Sanitizer. Not sure which one would be better. There really shouldn't be anything much to kill in them anyway. Your thoughts...
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I always just soaked the clay balls in bleach along with air stones but I didn't use much,net pots were 5".Always was a pain dealing with them.
 
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myke said:
I always just soaked the clay balls in bleach along with air stones but I didn't use much,net pots were 5".Always was a pain dealing with them.
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Yes; they are a pain. I'm using the large net pots so there's a few more to deal with, but I'm sure the same procedure would work fine. I've never sterilized the clay balls, so maybe that's one little piece of the puzzle...
 
Turpman

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If you’re going to do the starsan soak I’d do it before the enzymes. And I would do something, that or pressure cook. The hydroton has many holes for the pathogens to set up camp.
Rinse well then do the enzyme treatment. I think the starsan is around 2 ph.
I recently used some starsan treated hydroton in the bottom of. 1L pot an inch or so treated and not rinsed, coco on top. Figured by the time to roots reached the hydroton it should be rinsed. Clear pot. Yep roots look normal.
 
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myke said:
Did you get your Enzymes Komplete yet?
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Yes, and been using it for about 10 days now. Can't say for sure, but I think it is making a difference. I changed the res yesterday and added .75 ml/L instead of the suggested .5 ml/L. Also the suggested peroxide to be used with the Enzymes Komplete is 1.5 ml/L of 30% H2o2. I used just a bit over that of 29% H2O2. I guess time will tell.
 
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Turpman said:
If you’re going to do the starsan soak I’d do it before the enzymes. And I would do something, that or pressure cook. The hydroton has many holes for the pathogens to set up camp.
Rinse well then do the enzyme treatment. I think the starsan is around 2 ph.
I recently used some starsan treated hydroton in the bottom of. 1L pot an inch or so treated and not rinsed, coco on top. Figured by the time to roots reached the hydroton it should be rinsed. Clear pot. Yep roots look normal.
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Thanks for the info. Yes, I'm going to soak the hydroten in Starsan. thinking for 24 hours or so. Then rinse with water that has gone through a UV system and soak again with a low ppm of grow, micro, magnifical, and Enzymes Komplete. I use Remo nutrients.

What PH have you been using when you soak them?
 
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Forgot to mention Turpman. It says that Star San is a no rinse sterilizer and in reading the information again it says that it only needs a 2 minute contact, but with what I am using it for I would leave it longer than that. What do you think?
 
Turpman

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The Older Guy said:
Forgot to mention Turpman. It says that Star San is a no rinse sterilizer and in reading the information again it says that it only needs a 2 minute contact, but with what I am using it for I would leave it longer than that. What do you think?
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I’ve soaked for a long time, like weeks. No idea if it matters but no I’ll effects. It is no rinse for making beer or wine or drinking but the ph is verry low. Plants may not like it. So I’d rinse a bit before your enzymes. The low PH may be hard on them not sure.
 
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Turpman said:
I’ve soaked for a long time, like weeks. No idea if it matters but no I’ll effects. It is no rinse for making beer or wine or drinking but the ph is verry low. Plants may not like it. So I’d rinse a bit before your enzymes. The low PH may be hard on them not sure.
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I think you're right about the PH and it's good to know about the soaking time. Thanks for that.
 
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