Creation Vs. Evolution

Seamaiden

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
I absolutely love that series, too!

Um.. now I forgot who posted about the Croatian Neandertal--I'll guarantee you that there are some who've already managed to refute that (plus, knowing how some guys are.. hell, even my ex-boyfriend, he'd hit that shit as long as there's a hole!). There's not a whole lot of viable Neandertal DNA, not even bitsy snippets, one of the things that made this find so unique. That and the evidence of cannibalism. :)
 
NomadicSky

NomadicSky

Well-Known Member
I don't care what modern science has to say currently they don't know.

I believe modern Europeans and their descendants are the result of Humans migrating from Africa and interbreeding with the Neanderthals.

It would explain the level of physical diversity within European populations hair and eye colors that are unique to Europeans came from the Neanderthals. Look at the brow ridges of some people.

And the vast amount of body and thick facial hair that we have compared to other human populations.
 
Jonus

Jonus

Well-Known Member
longbaugh said:
Anybody see that Ben Stein movie, Expelled? I watched some parts of it and while it's obviously in favor of Intelligent Design, it certainly raises some interesting points about how the Intelligent Design community is being snuffed.

I think evolution is how it happened, mostly. You certainly have to admit that there's a few holes. Scientists need to be less defensive. Science is suppose to be attacked. That's the whole point.
Click to expand...
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiNGK3y5Ypg
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X8aifay678
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihYq2dGa29M

An interesting critique of that doco called Expelled
 
ANC

ANC

Well-Known Member
mindphuk said:
What you are describing is virtually the definition of Deism, which, BTW, a large number of people would be considered such, even though they are unaware of such a label. There are many evolutionary deists, even in the science world. There is absolutely no conflict between your belief and any science, unlike what we would call a traditional creationist or biblical creationist.
Click to expand...

THanks, very enlightening....

I can only think of the things I can think about
-RANDY-
 
ANC

ANC

Well-Known Member
Hand Banana said:
I'd be surprised if anyone said creation on here. What we're doing every day is refining and improving strains of plants through cross pollination and genetic selection. That's the essence of evolution!! The only difference is that humans are deciding what traits should be fostered in the plants, so we can see results faster. Selection in nature occurs over long time scales so that generally we cannot observe it in action.
Click to expand...

Don't lie, god comes and swaps the plants for better ones while you sleep... just to fuck with you...
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

New Member
OH Johnny, still fighting against what we are. Have you ever taken the time to notice the set of eyes that the animals on this planet have? Eyes set in front = predator, eyes in front make for better vision to see prey with. Prey animals = eyes set on side of head (cows, horses, deer, etc.), eyes on the side make it easier to see if you are being stalked while grazing.

If humans were meant to be grazers, our eyes would be closer to where our ears are.

We are meat eaters, you can tell by our eyes, our teeth, our thirst for blood.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
misshestermoffitt said:
OH Johnny, still fighting against what we are. Have you ever taken the time to notice the set of eyes that the animals on this planet have? Eyes set in front = predator, eyes in front make for better vision to see prey with. Prey animals = eyes set on side of head (cows, horses, deer, etc.), eyes on the side make it easier to see if you are being stalked while grazing.

If humans were meant to be grazers, our eyes would be closer to where our ears are.

We are meat eaters, you can tell by our eyes, our teeth, our thirst for blood.
Click to expand...
I know that I do not feel a need to justify my own cruelty with lame rationalizations about evolutionary after-effects like incisors, which were fangs a long time ago. We don't need our pinky toes either, but we all have them.

I do know that in the twelve years I have been a vegetarian (thirteen in February), I have not seen one scientific study saying humans should eat more meat. I have seen plenty stressing the importance of eating more vegetables.

I know that my choice of diet does not harm the environment anywhere close to the extent of a meat based diet.

I know that killing is wrong and that the eating of meat is taking part in a violent act.



 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

New Member
McDonalds and eating meat is not the same thing. McDonalds serves fries, aren't they a vegetable? Oh yeah, I thought they were.

I have anemia, I was always told that I needed to eat more read meat for the anemia. Yes a doctor told me to do that.

My hubby is on a medication where he needs to limit his vitamin K intake, which comes from , not meat, vegies.

Meat is good, I'm not fat, I'll eat it and I'll like it, have fun with your leafy greens.


How exactly does a meat based diet harm the environment? I would think petrochemicals have the monopoly on that.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
misshestermoffitt said:
McDonalds and eating meat is not the same thing. McDonalds serves fries, aren't they a vegetable? Oh yeah, I thought they were.
Click to expand...
Fries are made from vegetables, but they are not the only vegetable. Anyway, I would not eat McDonald's fries because their fries are not vegetarian. They add a beef extract for flavor.

misshestermoffitt said:
I have anemia, I was always told that I needed to eat more read meat for the anemia. Yes a doctor told me to do that.

My hubby is on a medication where he needs to limit his vitamin K intake, which comes from , not meat, vegies.
Click to expand...
I referenced scientific studies. You answer with anecdotal evidence. Individual cases aside, I have not seen any study in 12 years advising consumers to eat more meat.

misshestermoffitt said:
Meat is good, I'm not fat, I'll eat it and I'll like it, have fun with your leafy greens.
Click to expand...
Meat is not good. Meat is cruel and inhumane, but I am the last person to tell you to stop poisoning your body and soul with it. You want to take the blue pill and keep believing no harm comes from your choice. That's fine by me.

misshestermoffitt said:
How exactly does a meat based diet harm the environment? I would think petrochemicals have the monopoly on that.
Click to expand...
Sigh. Grow the corn to feed the pig. Slaughter the pig. Meat is inefficient. "It takes up to 16 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of edible animal flesh."

http://www.goveg.com/worldhunger.asp
75% of our food-growing topsoil in the United States has eroded, almost all of it off farmland and grazing land used for animal agriculture. One acre of land growing broccoli will supply ten times as much protein as an acre of land producing beef. If acreage now being used for grazing cattle and raising feed grains were growing trees or fiber plants to burn for energy, we would have no need to import foreign oil. More than half of the water used for all purposes in the United States is used for livestock production. Water pollution from feedlots and feed grain field runoff (manure, topsoil, pesticides, fertilizer, etc.) contaminates more streams and rivers than do all the wastes from all U.S. cities and industries combined.
Click to expand...
http://www.vsh.org/
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

New Member
So then we should just kill all those animals off ? Send them straight into extinction? I mean there's no reason for them to exist, if we can't eat them. Back before humans overpopulated the planet nobody had to grow anything to feed any animals. They foraged and lived well. Now they have to be fed because humans have taken over the world. Maybe if humans didn't need to take up all the space to grow food (how many pounds of vegetarian produce does it take per year to keep you alive? ) the animals could survive just fine.

1 acre of hemp is equal to 4 acres of trees where paper production is concerned. Maybe if the human race would stop destroying everything in the name of MONEY things might not be like they are.

Johnny, do you wear leather shoes, belts, coats? Do you use glue? Do you have a dog or a cat, do you feed it? Have you ever eaten jello? These are all animals byproducts.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
natrone23 said:
lol kinda Ironic you put up a fat kid demanding more veggies
Click to expand...
Ironic that those veggies are flavored with beef extract and cooked in the same grease that the McNuggets are cooked in.

Why on god's green earth would french fries need to be beef flavored? LOL!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top