The Junk Drawer

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schuylaar

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HGCC said:
I want this so much. It is a topic I try to teach my kid already.

Ancient aliens is marvelous as an example of fake science.
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I wish they wouldn't do that..and now that they know Nazca lines were made from drawings not meant for someone from the sky to see but as a way of prayer and meditation..walking those lines, breaking pottery as offerings. I'd like for them to pull that episode because it's a lie..real science figured it out. Binding of heads was to show what tribe you belonged to as late and far north as The Huns.

More junk science? Mars?..you can have the fuel to get there but not to get home- we'd need fusion and how close are we to that?

Aliens from another planet? Nope..are there things in the sky? Yes..What are they? Don't know.

However, there are preternatural things that do occur; as they happen I try to decode, debunk or realize it's true anomaly.

Buy a Rubik's Cube..it's real science in action on a basic level.
 
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hanimmal

hanimmal

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schuylaar said:
I wish they wouldn't do that..and now that they know Nazca lines were made from drawings not meant for someone from the sky to see but as a way of prayer and meditation..walking those lines, breaking pottery as offerings. I'd like for them to pull that episode because it's a lie..real science figured it out. Binding of heads was to show what tribe you belonged to as late and far north as The Huns.

More junk science? Mars?..you can have the fuel to get there but not to get home- we'd need fusion and how close are we to that?

Aliens from another planet? Nope..are there things in the sky? Yes..What are they? Don't know.

However, there are preternatural things that do occur; as they happen I try to decode, debunk or realize it's true anomaly.

Buy a Rubik's Cube..it's real science in action on a basic level.
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I loved that show. And then one day they had a RT clip, and I turned it off, and just could give a shit less about watching it anymore. I love all the history and monuments, but they went full fucktarded.
DIY-HP-LED said:
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I did something like this in some college stats classes I taught. I would have the students go out and collect a handful of stories and show they how they played all the statistical games with the data analysis to sell their narratives, and then we would actually talk about what the chart was measuring and why their conclusions were (or were not) bullshit. THis is one reason I am really bummed about not finishing my PhD, I could teach the shit out of spotting propaganda.

I do miss that, and would love to see it more widely accepted into curriculums at the youngest ages. Unfortunately it is also something that pisses off parents neck deep in propaganda when their kid starts to question their nonsense.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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hanimmal said:
I loved that show. And then one day they had a RT clip, and I turned it off, and just could give a shit less about watching it anymore. I love all the history and monuments, but they went full fucktarded.

I did something like this in some college stats classes I taught. I would have the students go out and collect a handful of stories and show they how they played all the statistical games with the data analysis to sell their narratives, and then we would actually talk about what the chart was measuring and why their conclusions were (or were not) bullshit. THis is one reason I am really bummed about not finishing my PhD, I could teach the shit out of spotting propaganda.

I do miss that, and would love to see it more widely accepted into curriculums at the youngest ages. Unfortunately it is also something that pisses off parents neck deep in propaganda when their kid starts to question their nonsense.
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It would be an easy sell to the public at large, everybody is aware of the problem at some level. It would be a good proactive way of keeping conservative school boards busy defending a very weak position instead of burning books. A good offense is the best defense, don't wait to take their blows and craziness, take the fight to them and go for the throat! In this case that is exactly what you would be doing, in a metaphorical sense. Don't wait for them to pull their next great notion out of their assholes, give them something to chew on that will leave a bitter after taste.

A website curriculum would be my approach and teachers can assign it as projects, no texts or funding required from the schools... A formal program might take awhile in some places, but informal ones can be used that will result in embarrassing losses for them. Judges deal in telling truth from bullshit and are unlikely to rule against teaching how to do it! ;-)
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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schuylaar said:
Butterfly galaxies will collide in 500 million years and become one.

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no..when they say collide....they mean one will pass though the other, and probably not one thing in either galaxy will touch each other...and they will continue their previous motion, so they will eventually pass through each other, mostly unchanged, and both continue on their slightly altered original trajectories.
that looks like huge masses of material in those pictures, but 99% of both of those galaxies is nothing, open space between stars.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
no..when they say collide....they mean one will pass though the other, and probably not one thing in either galaxy will touch each other...and they will continue their previous motion, so they will eventually pass through each other, mostly unchanged, and both continue on their slightly altered original trajectories.
that looks like huge masses of material in those pictures, but 99% of both of those galaxies is nothing, open space between stars.
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they will sweep each other largely clean of star-forming material. It’s how we get elliptical galaxies, enormous stellar assisted living communities.
 
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schuylaar

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
no..when they say collide....they mean one will pass though the other, and probably not one thing in either galaxy will touch each other...and they will continue their previous motion, so they will eventually pass through each other, mostly unchanged, and both continue on their slightly altered original trajectories.
that looks like huge masses of material in those pictures, but 99% of both of those galaxies is nothing, open space between stars.
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Huh! I took that from the internet but cannot copy the image or description so I'll leave you the link and I'll type exactly what it says.

The Gemini North Telescope captured a pair of galaxies NGC 4567 (top) and NGC 4568 (bottom) as they collide. Nicknamed the Butterfly galaxies, they will eventually merge as a single galaxy in 500 million years.

www.cnn.com

Unusually brightening star captures attention as a stellar oddity | CNN

Astronomers may have solved the mystery behind an unusually brightening star. The star, Gaia17bpp, might have had its light blocked by dust from a strange stellar companion during a seven-year eclipse.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

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@DIY-HP-LED
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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schuylaar said:
Huh! I took that from the internet but cannot copy the image or description so I'll leave you the link and I'll type exactly what it says.

The Gemini North Telescope captured a pair of galaxies NGC 4567 (top) and NGC 4568 (bottom) as they collide. Nicknamed the Butterfly galaxies, they will eventually merge as a single galaxy in 500 million years.

www.cnn.com

Unusually brightening star captures attention as a stellar oddity | CNN

Astronomers may have solved the mystery behind an unusually brightening star. The star, Gaia17bpp, might have had its light blocked by dust from a strange stellar companion during a seven-year eclipse.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

#3 of 20 slides.

@DIY-HP-LED
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yeah, and in another 500 million years they'll pass on through...
i guess it is possible there is enough mass in both that one might stop, but i doubt both would, so you would get the remnants of one that kept going...
i've read about that happening, but it was quite a while ago, but i do remember the most likely scenario, at least according to the book i was reading, is that the galaxies would pass right through each other and never actually touch at any point.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
schuylaar said:
Huh! I took that from the internet but cannot copy the image or description so I'll leave you the link and I'll type exactly what it says.

The Gemini North Telescope captured a pair of galaxies NGC 4567 (top) and NGC 4568 (bottom) as they collide. Nicknamed the Butterfly galaxies, they will eventually merge as a single galaxy in 500 million years.

www.cnn.com

Unusually brightening star captures attention as a stellar oddity | CNN

Astronomers may have solved the mystery behind an unusually brightening star. The star, Gaia17bpp, might have had its light blocked by dust from a strange stellar companion during a seven-year eclipse.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

#3 of 20 slides.

@DIY-HP-LED
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A good illustration of the fact that science and science journalism are apples and oranges.
 
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