The Junk Drawer

cannabineer said:
yeah, and I say no. Nothing that weighs more than a gram, anyway.
Calculate the joules per gram it takes anything to get from ground level to the top of weather. Earth has not evolved living airships.
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That would be if the organism has no propulsion- the propulsion comes from the adaptive esophagus like a jellyfish..
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
the world is full of real wonders...why invent stuff that isn't even as good as what the world invents?

https://www.treehugger.com/biggest-flowers-on-earth-4859257

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Um what are those things in the sky that people keep seeing? That they have vid of? This is about theory of what things actually experienced are; what they can be. There's nothing wrong with that.

If something turns out to be a weather balloon I'll accept it..someone keeps mentioning astrology and I'm not certain why..it hasn't been the topic.
 
cannabineer said:
… except biophysics. The stratosphere is a very hostile environment. Even emperor penguins don’t do minus eighty Celsius, and they get lotsa oxygen.
It’s Bertrand’s teapot basically.

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Russell's teapot - Wikipedia

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Why have we've been able to withstand the pressure and hostility of space yet can't find a way to get down to the bottom of the sea?

What do you think that those Tic-Tac shaped objects are that fly at the height of a plane the factually viewed by AF diving into the sea? I'm curious, you must have some credible thought that we can discuss.

Regarding your Russell's Teapot. My longest predictor posted here..you can see why I don't like doing them because from 2014 anything can happen to change the trajectory of prediction itself. I like the short term better.

schuylaar said:
bunny - twitter is overrated..no one uses it except for tweens and will become obsolete by 2020.
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schuylaar said:
Um what are those things in the sky that people keep seeing? That they have vid of? This is about theory of what things actually experienced are; what they can be. There's nothing wrong with that.

If something turns out to be a weather balloon I'll accept it..someone keeps mentioning astrology and I'm not certain why..it hasn't been the topic.
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they're flying cow pies...they're bits of scrooge's undigested potato...they're scientifically non existent. when someone gets one good picture, one good video, when a whole plane full of people see it and take selfies with it...then and only then will i come even close to admitting that cryptoanimals live in the sky...the plainly visible, incredibly researched, very well traveled sky...there are no trees for sky big foot to hide behind, no loch rocks for sky nessie to take cover behind, just a few clouds that are transparent to good radar...maybe there are living clouds, because those are the only things larger than birds in the sky that have ever been recorded in anything but a blurry shit video.
i'm not trying to ridicule you, but i do ridicule the whole idea of large animals living in the upper atmosphere, so sorry if a little splashes your way.
there are a lot of animals we haven't discovered yet, but the thing is, most of those animals we haven't discovered yet is because they're nearly identical with species we are aware of, and pass for them, most of the time. most "new" species are just sub sets of pre-existing species that have adapted to a different environment.... .00001 genetic difference....they haven't found anything like a whole new undiscovered species in decades, if not centuries...and i'm pretty sure it's because there aren't any to be discovered anymore.
i've always considered this to be akin to trump derangement syndrome, but in reverse...an irrational unwillingness to accept scientific fact and an embrace of "feelings"...i'll take cold hard facts 10 days out of 9
 
schuylaar said:
Why have we've been able to withstand the pressure and hostility of space yet can't find a way to get down to the bottom of the sea?

What do you think that those Tic-Tac shaped objects are that fly at the height of a plane the factually viewed by AF diving into the sea? I'm curious, you must have some credible thought that we can discuss.

Regarding your Russell's Teapot. My longest predictor posted here..you can see why I don't like doing them because from 2014 anything can happen to change the trajectory of prediction itself. I like the short term better.
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there is ZERO pressure in space, a space craft would buckle and crush very quickly in deep water, they aren't designed to withstand crushing pressure like that. we have now sent unmanned vehicles into the deepest parts of the ocean, and they didn't find atlantis, or a secret dolphin society...they found a few fish, a few rocks, and a lot of mud.
i HATE joe rogan, but this is a clip of neil degrasse tyson on the dumbass's show...watch it, please.
 
schuylaar said:
That would be if the organism has no propulsion- the propulsion comes from the adaptive esophagus like a jellyfish..
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That is incorrect. Propulsion is what uses the energy. It’s why I suggested doing the calculation - it shows you the magnitude of the fail in the movie.

I mentioned airships because they have an out. They’re neutrally buoyant, so the energy they gain from dropping an equal weight of air (into the gravity gradient) balances the energy they spend on altitude. Their only real concern is air drag, which is why artificial airships are slow.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
there is ZERO pressure in space, a space craft would buckle and crush very quickly in deep water, they aren't designed to withstand crushing pressure like that. we have now sent unmanned vehicles into the deepest parts of the ocean, and they didn't find atlantis, or a secret dolphin society...they found a few fish, a few rocks, and a lot of mud.
i HATE joe rogan, but this is a clip of neil degrasse tyson on the dumbass's show...watch it, please.
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I love Neil De Grasse Tyson..but he makes too many man jokes and is comic books..I like it straight up..Michio Kaku but I'm high half the time and to read physics I can easily get lost..I'm on The God Equation and only a few pages in because I re-read to 'get it'. Physics is hard when you're stoned and not a physics student.
 
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cannabineer said:
That is incorrect. Propulsion is what uses the energy. It’s why I suggested doing the calculation - it shows you the magnitude of the fail in the movie.

I mentioned airships because they have an out. They’re neutrally buoyant, so the energy they gain from dropping an equal weight of air (into the gravity gradient) balances the energy they spend on altitude. Their only real concern is air drag, which is why artificial airships are slow.
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Thank you..this is what I wanted because now I must ponder the factual statement.
 
schuylaar said:
I love Neil De Grasse Tyson..but he makes too many man jokes and is comic books..I like it straight up..Michio Kaku but I'm high half the time and to read physics I can easily get lost..I'm on The God Equation and only a few pages in because I re-read to 'get it'. Physics is hard when your stoned and not a physics student.
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If you want a better appreciation of physics, get a 30-year-old freshman textbook (used off Amazon) and do the homework at the end of each unit. (If necessary, review algebra, trigonometry and intro calculus first.) Working the numbers is absolutely indispensable for developing the intuitive end.

(edit) doing the problems while high as a kite might invoke usefully collateral neural pathways!
 
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schuylaar said:
Thank you..this is what I wanted because now I must ponder the factual statement.
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https://mb-soft.com/public3/birdeff.html

https://a-z-animals.com/blog/the-top-10-highest-flying-birds-in-the-world/

some more to ponder...the energy an animal that lived in the upper atmosphere would have to expend would require it to eat an enormous amount...they would have to spend most of every day hunting. not sure what they would eat, there is no life of any significance above 6 or 7 miles.
not even banks of microscopic creatures analogous to the krill that whales eat.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
there is ZERO pressure in space, a space craft would buckle and crush very quickly in deep water, they aren't designed to withstand crushing pressure like that. we have now sent unmanned vehicles into the deepest parts of the ocean, and they didn't find atlantis, or a secret dolphin society...they found a few fish, a few rocks, and a lot of mud.
i HATE joe rogan, but this is a clip of neil degrasse tyson on the dumbass's show...watch it, please.
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God dammit, now I am going to have to clear my YouTube history again.
 
CunningCanuk said:
But it will be the topic tomorrow, according to my horoscope.
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cannabineer said:
If you want a better appreciation of physics, get a 30-year-old freshman textbook (used off Amazon) and do the homework at the end of each unit. (If necessary, review algebra, trigonometry and intro calculus first.) Working the numbers is absolutely indispensable for developing the intuitive end.

(edit) doing the problems while high as a kite might invoke usefully collateral neural pathways!
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I'm looking forward to mushrooms for this. All animals communicate through vibration as well; some of us can learn that vibration.
 
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