Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

Bagginski

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If he wins again, the first thing he will do, is try and change the law about only doing 2 terms
“IF he wins again”, we’re done for as the nation we’ve been for the last 233 years.
We might still be called the USA, but it won’t mean anything, and we’ll lose every ally we have remaining, it’ll be either submit or revolt
 
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Bagginski

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THIS is the problem with Wikipedia…letting anyone edit an entry means that your shit can get rewrit

WP worked hard to put an end to malicious edits - so much so that “conservatives“ made their own (conservapedia.com, I believe). I knew that hadn’t worked out for them but look, they’re up to their same shitty tricks. I suggest you check the edit history - and the citations.
 

PJ Diaz

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You’ve FACT-CHECKED this, of course…RIGHT?
THIS is the problem with Wikipedia…letting anyone edit an entry means that your shit can get rewrit

WP worked hard to put an end to malicious edits - so much so that “conservatives“ made their own (conservapedia.com, I believe). I knew that hadn’t worked out for them but look, they’re up to their same shitty tricks. I suggest you check the edit history - and the citations.
And the AP, who I also linked to, says the same thing.
 

topcat

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It will take me time to digest your magnum opus. I will home in on two excerpts.



I agree that that man is a willful agent of destruction. I still contend that he is the illusionist’s “moving hand”, distracting from the doings of the other hand.

But in the order of things, he is the pawn whom we watch, while the bishops and queens run the game.



Am I missing something? The two are tautologous. Naturally not all the rich are finding the churches’ sword-arm.

But enough of them are (as a supplement to the obscene wealth being fleeced off the fearful faithful) to advance the program.

I will digest the rest at leisure, with a note if thanks. Your post will give me an afternoon of thought. It is the Internet equivalent of a neighbor stopping by with a torte made from scratch.

More frivolously, “magnum opus” made me think of the eponymous progressive penguin. Since I cannot find a pic of him holding an appropriate revolver, I need turn elsewhere for mirthful metaphor.

Bloom County.jpg
Opus, the penguin
 

Bagginski

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And your test works both ways. Are you OK with law enforcement with a boot through your door for doing exactly what others do but only you are getting raided with no criminal charges being filed first?

How about a boot through your door so they can search just to see if anything is wrong? Is that cool with you and yours at home?

Maybe they just take all your files and computers for 6 months and look them over for wrong doing, you've got nothing to hide so that's perfectly awesome right?
I kinda hate that feel such a strong desire to rub the face of deliberate ignorance into the concrete…

the lunatic “right” has been screaming about lawless governments and boots thru doors literally since Clinton was elected (it was like the flipping of a switch: everything from Free Republic to Guns’n’Ammo was on message all at once, and discussions IN THOSE ZONES gave way to apocalyptic fantasies and scream of revolution; sensible talk was shouted down and banned. Actual conservatives, BANNED on these now proto-MAGA breeding grounds. In short, sane conversation with ‘conservatives’ ended suddenly, 30 years ago.

”Are you OK with law enforcement with a boot through your door for doing exactly what others do but only you are getting raided with no criminal charges being filed first?”

What a stupid attempt to end an accusation with a question mark. Grow up. If you imagine that OO should have been charged BEFORE an authorized search was carried out, then your imagination should STFD/STFU.

Whoever told you that charges came before searches was lying to you. Even if THEY believed it, it’s the lie of another they were passing along. Obtaining evidence comes BEFORE charges; charges WITHOUT EVIDENCE would frankly be WORSE than what you imagine, so try to imagine how much you’d like it in a country where where AN ACCUSATION was enough to get your door kicked down - and YOU imprisoned - WITHOUT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT?

I mean, that’s what you’re cawing about, right? That would be an out-and-out police state - which has been the signature move of Tyrants since the ancient Greeks. Exactly the kind of tyranny our constitution and laws are DESIGNED TO PREVENT. A valid search with a valid search warrant, carried out by proper authorities has been SOP in the non-JimCrow parts of the country for pretty much our entire existence as a nation.

It’s a tool to PREVENT tyrant, and it’s worked pretty well so far.

your last “question”: “Maybe they just take all your files and computers for 6 months and look them over for wrong doing” is every bit as stupid as the first:
- if you took something you knew you weren’t supposed to take,
- tried to hide it,
- refused to return it,
- refused to return it,
- had some of it taken from you by properly-authorized agents,
- denied you still had any,
- were ordered by a court to return what they knew hadn’t been returned,
- then subjected to a search for what THEY KNEW a was still missing,
- AND THEY FOUND IT while carrying out that search,
- AND THEY TAKE with them what they found,
- WHICH YOU KNEW YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE,
WHAT - *EXACTLY* - was taken THAT WAS YOURS?
 

Herb & Suds

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topcat

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