Roger A. Shrubber
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Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants
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PJ Diaz
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Budzbuddha
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PRESIDENT Joe Biden attended University of Delaware for his undergraduate studies and got his law degree from Syracuse University in New York.
He obtained his Bachelor of Arts degree in 1965 and just three years later received his law school diploma.
Joe Biden went to law school on a full academic scholarship, and he graduated in the top of his law school class.
He also graduated with three undergraduate degrees, and was named outstanding student in the political science department.
He obtained his Bachelor of Arts degree in 1965 and just three years later received his law school diploma.
Joe Biden went to law school on a full academic scholarship, and he graduated in the top of his law school class.
He also graduated with three undergraduate degrees, and was named outstanding student in the political science department.
PJ Diaz
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Fogdog
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I like the irony.
Republicans. Members of the formerly "Law and Order Party", are complaining that people who commit crimes now have to fear the law.
lulz. Because THEY said so? You are so desperate.
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DIY-HP-LED
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Lawrence: Trump Love Letters Tipped Off The Archives
150,386 views Aug 25, 2022 MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell shares new reporting from The Washington Post about how letters between Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un going missing after Trump left office may have been the first clue to the National Archives that not all of Trump’s presidential papers had been returned to the government.
Fogdog
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That statement is most often used by authoritarians when the "right people" are being illegally searched and detained. Even when an authoritarian is caught red handed, such as literally showing your name tag and unmasked face to a camera while rioting in the Capitol Building on 1/6 or Trump literally caught red handed with top secret documents nobody is allowed to see outside of a secure facility, they cry foul.
Compartmentalization, remember?
Fogdog
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You didn't read that article, did you?
After lengthy gobbledygook in the filing, here is a record of their interaction with the judge:
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THE COURT: What does “assume custody and control” mean in your view? What do you want them to do?
[PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL]: Because they are also required to make them available to the public, “assume custody and control” would be to take control of the records or have somebody else take control of the records....
THE COURT: How do they take control? ... He issues a press release[:] I've got them.... Then what? What are they supposed to do?
[PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL]: As I said, there are many options.
THE COURT: Tell me one.
[PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL]: One option is they can call President Clinton and ask....
THE COURT: Okay. He says no. Now what?
[PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL]: They write a nice letter. They maybe use one of these enforcement mechanisms. Maybe they try something else.
Id. at 43:18–44:12. Throughout the hearing, plaintiff remained unable to identify any avenue for relief or to specify the terms of the order it was seeking:
THE COURT: What enforcement mechanism, what thing, what power can they exercise under the statute that I can order them to do that makes your injury redressable?
[PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL]: Once the records are determined to be [P]residential records there is an obligation to assume custody and control of them. How—and I will just say, once again, how they go about doing that—Judicial Watch is not challenging how.
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And once the determination is made [that they are] [P]residential records, it opens the door. It leaves for the possibility that [A]rchives will go out and get the records. It leaves the possibility that they'll use one of their enforcement mechanisms or they may use other avenues to get them.
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THE COURT: We're talking about very mushy unenforceable orders at this point.... I just don't think I could issue an order that says ‘try your best.’ Then how would anybody be able to ascertain whether they've complied[?]
Tr. at 48:24–50:24 (internal quotations added).
Ultimately, plaintiff conceded that even an order deeming the materials to be Presidential records and directing the defendant to make an effort to retrieve them would not bind the former President to produce them, Tr. at 60:14–20, and it would not make them magically available under FOIA:
THE COURT: So even if you win, what do you get?
[PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL]: We get the possibility to discuss that when the time comes.
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More discussion, followed by the ruling:
CONCLUSION
Thus, because the Court is unable to provide the remedy plaintiff seeks by ordering that defendant “assume custody and control” over the audiotapes, the Court is unable to redress plaintiff's claim. Accordingly, the Court will grant defendant's motion to dismiss [Dkt. # 6] under Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(1) for lack of standing. A separate order will issue.
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In other words, they were laughed out of court.
doublejj
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This woman will hand pick trumps secret service detail....
Biden announces new head of Secret Service
Kimberly Cheatle’s career with the agency spans more than 25 years, including numerous leadership roles.
www.politico.com
Biden announces new head of Secret Service
Kimberly Cheatle’s career with the agency spans more than 25 years, including numerous leadership roles.
Biden announces new head of Secret Service
Kimberly Cheatle’s career with the agency spans more than 25 years, including numerous leadership roles.
www.politico.com
Budzbuddha
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Beautifully Explained - Raid Breakdown starting with Kim love letters.
ANC
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Some people think the snake in their yards will only bite the neighbours.
PJ Diaz
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It's weird that the AP says differently than whatever source you derived your info from.
AP News
WASHINGTON (AP) _ Sen. Joe Biden claimed during a campaign appearance in New Hampshire last spring that he finished in the top half of his law school class, although records indicate he finished near the bot
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Budzbuddha
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Fake News … lolIt's weird that the AP says differently than whatever source you derived your info from.
AP News
WASHINGTON (AP) _ Sen. Joe Biden claimed during a campaign appearance in New Hampshire last spring that he finished in the top half of his law school class, although records indicate he finished near the bot
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At least it isn’t Trump University- i think joe is eyeballin predatory colleges like shitheads .
Certificate of Deception
PJ Diaz
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Resorting to Trumpism and calling anything you don't want to hear, "fake news", eh? What is the Michelle Obama slogan again, "when they go low, we go low too"? Something like that.
Budzbuddha
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All politicians lie - part of the game. We just pick the one that lies less.
PJ Diaz
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FIFY
But back the the original point, since we both agree that he lies, why should we believe his statement which you posted?
Budzbuddha
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I prefer their actions in power over their character beliefs , embellishments etc.
The position of president is for the people ….
Whomever that will be , man or woman. Their platform , results , policy and ideas. Relationships with world leaders and our world standing. No flamboyant schtick , sketchy pasts or baggage.
The position of president is for the people ….
Whomever that will be , man or woman. Their platform , results , policy and ideas. Relationships with world leaders and our world standing. No flamboyant schtick , sketchy pasts or baggage.
