HELP: Cuttings/Cloning help: Why do my cuttings keep doing this like a week in

Meast21

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If clones are important I’d run two ways. You can’t go wrong with a tray and dome . In the Dewey mister I wouldn’t add anything. When I did bubble clones I didn’t add anything but like you didn’t have consistent results.
I now use rockwool and a dome. Very consistent with the strains I have. Also it’s light can be moved and doesn’t use electricity.
I add a small amount of clonex, it raises the tap water ppm from 160 to 325... When I didn't do this some strains would have puny roots or not thick roots.
 

Meast21

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probably damping off, after a day or two, you need to incrementally crack open a hole somewhere for air exchange and grow it day by day.
I often do large batches of about 50 clones in around 100F weather with no dome even.
Do this in the dewey mister too?? Its a aero cloner basically.
 

Meast21

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probably damping off, after a day or two, you need to incrementally crack open a hole somewhere for air exchange and grow it day by day.
I often do large batches of about 50 clones in around 100F weather with no dome even.
ANC you are like Yoda, been here for 14 years..... I'm a great grower I just have issues with cloning some strains... I did a strain cookies gelato from seed and I took 3 cuttings and all rooted perfectly within 9 days.... Another clone I took from a mother and it rooted in 9 days and looked perfect, the same clone I took from the same mother died or damped off or the main flower gets fucked up like the pics I posted in this thread.
 

Meast21

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probably damping off, after a day or two, you need to incrementally crack open a hole somewhere for air exchange and grow it day by day.
I often do large batches of about 50 clones in around 100F weather with no dome even.
How far should the light be away? I usually use a 40 watt veg single bulb 4 foot away.
 

ANC

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How far should the light be away? I usually use a 40 watt veg single bulb 4 foot away.
Honestly, it needs barely any light, just enough to tick along until it has roots, then it needs LOADS of light ASAP as well as food...

I keep my clone buckets ( I clone on a bucket lid, it has a pump inside, and 14 pucks on the lid, with maybe 3 cuttings per foam puc) halfway under my table, so it is only getting incidental light reflected off walls etc.
 

ANC

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Do this in the dewey mister too?? Its a aero cloner basically.
Yes, they only need the high RH at the very start... soon you can slip a coin under the lid's edge, and start building on that day by day until you no longer need the dome at all.

Also spend a minute and dip your clones in a disinfectant solution when you take them so they are sterile on the outside before going into your cloner... cloner sterility is very important.
 

Meast21

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Yes, they only need the high RH at the very start... soon you can slip a coin under the lid's edge, and start building on that day by day until you no longer need the dome at all.

Also spend a minute and dip your clones in a disinfectant solution when you take them so they are sterile on the outside before going into your cloner... cloner sterility is very important.
What's a disinfectant solution you do??
 

Richard Drysift

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Put the bulb closer; they need light to root. Leave on 24/7. I doubt this is your problem but they do need to absorb light energy. No root hormone is needed to root cuttings but check out GH rapid start; works like a charm.
I have had clones that did not root before and it was because the mother plant was sickly. Keeping a mom healthy for a long time is challenging in a container; clones are only as viable as the mother is. Once the stems turn dark and squishy at the bottom rooting response is ceased. They may not root at all at this point.
I would change out the water and clean the inside of your cloner really good with a 10% bleach solution and dish soap. Add nothing but tap water; maybe a few drops of rapid start. Take new cuttings from a healthy mama. Try to steer away from woody stems; short green stems with a few nodes on the canopy are ideal.
 

wakenbake91

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I always had problems getting clones to root too, I started using a 1020 tray and a dome and have literally gotten a 99.9% success rate since then. Most all of them have roots within 10 days. And the mothers health is a big factor as well like I've seen several people mention. I honestly think your trying to do too much, I wouldn't add anything to the water at all, not even ph up or down. Get you some jiffy pellets, a 1020 tray with a dome and mist the dome manually everyday, the first 3-4 days I will mist the plants but after that only the floor and the dome. When you take the clones, I don't think it matters how long they are, mine are usually about 3-4" long total, trim off all but the top 2 nodes of leaves and then clip those halfway down the blade of the leaves. It doesn't matter which strain,or if its indica, sativa or hybrid. Keep it simple and you will have success. The biggest factor for my turnaround with clones I truly believe was the dome and tray.

Good luck and never give up, that's a weak mindset. :joint::hump:
 

Meast21

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I always had problems getting clones to root too, I started using a 1020 tray and a dome and have literally gotten a 99.9% success rate since then. Most all of them have roots within 10 days. And the mothers health is a big factor as well like I've seen several people mention. I honestly think your trying to do too much, I wouldn't add anything to the water at all, not even ph up or down. Get you some jiffy pellets, a 1020 tray with a dome and mist the dome manually everyday, the first 3-4 days I will mist the plants but after that only the floor and the dome. When you take the clones, I don't think it matters how long they are, mine are usually about 3-4" long total, trim off all but the top 2 nodes of leaves and then clip those halfway down the blade of the leaves. It doesn't matter which strain,or if its indica, sativa or hybrid. Keep it simple and you will have success. The biggest factor for my turnaround with clones I truly believe was the dome and tray.

Good luck and never give up, that's a weak mindset. :joint::hump:
Probably have unhealth mother's then... I got the clones from people, but that got it to root... Its alll a fucking joke.
 

bursto

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the pickle jar at workS1420005.JPGS1420004.JPG

rock wool, or coco, works faster with a small piece of diamond mylar cut to fit under the jar

i give em 18/6 i wouldnt bother them with 24 hours of light, they need a bit of rest,
 
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EvilJ

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I’ve learned that I used to love mine to death, they really don’t need much. Funny story, back in the day when my state wasn’t legal I had to grab everything and go. I had started clones 2 days prior but found out landlord was coming. I ended up throwing the clones in my trunk and left them for 5 days ( fall time) came back 5 days later totally thinking they where going to be dead…..NOPE! I had 30%, root that were wrapped in the trash bag. From this point I’ve learned they need low intensity light and don’t water them to death.
 

Meast21

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Put the bulb closer; they need light to root. Leave on 24/7. I doubt this is your problem but they do need to absorb light energy. No root hormone is needed to root cuttings but check out GH rapid start; works like a charm.
I have had clones that did not root before and it was because the mother plant was sickly. Keeping a mom healthy for a long time is challenging in a container; clones are only as viable as the mother is. Once the stems turn dark and squishy at the bottom rooting response is ceased. They may not root at all at this point.
I would change out the water and clean the inside of your cloner really good with a 10% bleach solution and dish soap. Add nothing but tap water; maybe a few drops of rapid start. Take new cuttings from a healthy mama. Try to steer away from woody stems; short green stems with a few nodes on the canopy are ideal.
Got the GH rapid start and gonna use a razor blade and cut at a 45 degree angle ( I used a very sharp pair of scissors before and did the 45 degree angle).... This last run I did use the rockwool and dome and I got better results with the clones, however some of them took 15+ days to show little roots. This next run in the doom I'm gonna try to get close to 100% humidity for the first 3 days then lower the humidity after that from 70-85%..... I can use the GH rapid start in the rockwool right??? Prob just gonna get a red cup and figure it out and put a few drops of the GH in there then dip the rockwool in the water that the GH is in.
 

Meast21

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I cut on a 45 right below a node,so like 1/2-3/4".View attachment 5183068
Yup I've had cuttings look like that in about 10-12 days before. I feel like I got strains that are not easily to clone. I got 1 strain that looked like shit and died basically. 2 strains that cloned at about a 60% rate and the last strain clones easily.
 

ANC

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the greener and more herbaceous the cutting the quicker it will strike.
As a rule, if the cutting can snap off the branch without leaving strands of fibers, it should take inside of a week
if it can break off but leaves torn fibers it is more like two weeks, and if it is woody and needs to be cut, you are looking at 3 weeks plus.
 
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