HELP: Cuttings/Cloning help: Why do my cuttings keep doing this like a week in

Meast21

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Stop messing around and get an aero-cloner. Clone king or a DIY aeroponic style cloners work great; 99% success rate and zero root hormone is needed. They really are worth trying an investment; you can sell/trade the extras. I have tried to root cuttings every way possible and can tell you they usually tend to look kinda sad before they propagate & begin to recover. Sure you can root cuttings in rockwool or even a cup of water but it takes longer w/lower success rate.
Some other tips for rooting cuttings include running 6500k fluorescent light (aka daylight full spectrum) 24 hrs a day. Cfls or long bar style fluorescents usually work well; keep them 12-18” away from canopy. 4ft seems way too far to me. No dark period is needed until they root. Without roots nothing can be absorbed by the plant so adding 300ppm of whatever does not really help even if you think it does. Ph adjusting the water is same kinda thing; don’t even bother. Doesn’t even matter how you cut as long as the cuts are sharp; use a razor.
Pro tip: use a recycle timer set to 1 min on 1 min off so the water and pump stays cool. Makes for faster rooting; should be getting roots in a week or so. Much longer than that usually means stems are rotting. Clones are only as healthy as the mother plant. A healthy lush green mama gives the clones enough N to get them through rooting.
The dewey mister I use is aeroponics I guess.. Its these fucking certain strains that don't like to be clone and turn to shit.... How much stem do you put below the plug? I usually do maybe 1.5"
 

Richard Drysift

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The dewey mister I use is aeroponics I guess.. Its these fucking certain strains that don't like to be clone and turn to shit.... How much stem do you put below the plug? I usually do maybe 1.5"
That’s BS. Every strain will root. Even a tree; took cuttings from a Japanese maple that rooted right next to my sour diesels and blueberry headbands. You could root a fucking pencil in this thing…
You can have anywhere from 1” to 4” hanging down into the cloner. Will root as long as they get some water pressure. Droplets seem to make them root faster. Seems like very long stems take longer to push roots but they will…
 

Meast21

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No need to scrape anything just cut the stem once at an angle using a sharp blade…like a razor. Why does this work? I have no idea but it does; seems to help make an entry point for roots to grow from. You can DIY a cloner too but at this price it’ll be hard to find all the materials cheaper than you can buy a pre-made unit.
So a razor blade works better than a very sharp pair of scissors?? I will use a razor blade next and try it, but my scissors are sharp and new.
 

Meast21

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Will these clones survive? IF they do survive could they hermie from being in shock or bad...The main flower has almost wilted... ONe reason I think I'm having an issue with the new strains I'm trying is bc the main flower is very very small..
 

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Meast21

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That’s BS. Every strain will root. Even a tree; took cuttings from a Japanese maple that rooted right next to my sour diesels and blueberry headbands. You could root a fucking pencil in this thing…
You can have anywhere from 1” to 4” hanging down into the cloner. Will root as long as they get some water pressure. Droplets seem to make them root faster. Seems like very long stems take longer to push roots but they will…
Have u used the dewey mister???
 

farmerfischer

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start with healthy cuttings. The one that you keep showing looks like crap from the start..
And when you do get healthy clones, cut the leaf tips back.. this helps slow transperation which helps keep your cuttings from wilting
 

Meast21

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start with healthy cuttings. The one that you keep showing looks like crap from the start..
And when you do get healthy clones, cut the leaf tips back.. this helps slow transperation which helps keep your cuttings from wilting
Ok but its somewhat strain related... I've done many other clones and I get a 90% roots
 

bursto

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if im particularly lazy i'll just use a large pickle jar lifting the jar each day for 5 mins until i see a bit of new growth occur
 

Meast21

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MORE FUCKING DYING CLONES... I"M ABOUT DONE WITH GROWING AND DEALING WITH THESE LOSERS I DEAL WITH... ONLY 1 STRAIN OF 5 CLONED EASILY AND PERFECTLY.... WEAK STRAINS FOR SURE.
 

Meast21

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start with healthy cuttings. The one that you keep showing looks like crap from the start..
And when you do get healthy clones, cut the leaf tips back.. this helps slow transperation which helps keep your cuttings from wilting
They didn't look like crap when I took they. They get to that like a week later after I take them as a cutting.
 

Meast21

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That’s BS. Every strain will root. Even a tree; took cuttings from a Japanese maple that rooted right next to my sour diesels and blueberry headbands. You could root a fucking pencil in this thing…
You can have anywhere from 1” to 4” hanging down into the cloner. Will root as long as they get some water pressure. Droplets seem to make them root faster. Seems like very long stems take longer to push roots but they will…
What am I doing wrong then? Like i said 1 strain out of 5 rooted perfect in 9 days, perfect... The other 4 half lived and the living ones looked like shit most of them.

-I cut clones that are about 6 inches long from a healthy plant at 45 degree angle with very sharp scissors
-dip into a rooting gel
-put in dewey mister under a 40 watt veg bulb that is 4 feet away, also got a little indirect light from a T4
- Add clonex to the water so the ppm goes to about 325, out of tap the water is 160
- Dewey mister probably holds 1.5 gallons of water and besides the clonex I add about 3ml of uc roots. Sometimes ph down
 

Meast21

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What effects does having the light to far away cause??? Maybe I will put my veg bulb 1.5" feet away and try that.... Some people say you don't need much light at all... I'm here racking my fucking brain and I am damn sure these strains don't clone well.....
 

myke

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What am I doing wrong then? Like i said 1 strain out of 5 rooted perfect in 9 days, perfect... The other 4 half lived and the living ones looked like shit most of them.

-I cut clones that are about 6 inches long from a healthy plant at 45 degree angle with very sharp scissors
-dip into a rooting gel
-put in dewey mister under a 40 watt veg bulb that is 4 feet away, also got a little indirect light from a T4
- Add clonex to the water so the ppm goes to about 325, out of tap the water is 160
- Dewey mister probably holds 1.5 gallons of water and besides the clonex I add about 3ml of uc roots. Sometimes ph down
If clones are important I’d run two ways. You can’t go wrong with a tray and dome . In the Dewey mister I wouldn’t add anything. When I did bubble clones I didn’t add anything but like you didn’t have consistent results.
I now use rockwool and a dome. Very consistent with the strains I have. Also it’s light can be moved and doesn’t use electricity.
 

Drop That Sound

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Your rooting gel could be contaminated?

Never dip cuttings into your rooting gel container. Take out a small glob, just as much as you need, or use a new swab every time to apply it.
 

ANC

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probably damping off, after a day or two, you need to incrementally crack open a hole somewhere for air exchange and grow it day by day.
I often do large batches of about 50 clones in around 100F weather with no dome even.
 

Meast21

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probably damping off, after a day or two, you need to incrementally crack open a hole somewhere for air exchange and grow it day by day.
I often do large batches of about 50 clones in around 100F weather with no dome even.
Yes they always damp off. I guess that means the bottom of the stem get mushy right??
 

Meast21

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Your rooting gel could be contaminated?

Never dip cuttings into your rooting gel container. Take out a small glob, just as much as you need, or use a new swab every time to apply it.
No bc some clones root fine... I get a jar of the rooting clone and take it out with a spoon and then put in a small bowl. I keep the gel refrigerated... Could the gel be too cold???? I doubt it.
 
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